Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Good grief - that google search for Documents and Settings\ filetype:pdf has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller? Cheers, Rebecca Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/06 10:56 PM Dov Isaacs wrote: ... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= turn off Convert Document Information in PDFMaker). I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm..., http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html (Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?) Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesyn.co.nz Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What do you use for PDF Generation?
That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was specified. The search returns all pages that include the word Document or the word Settings, not just the ones that have inappropriate metadata strings. Use the search specification Documents and Settings +pdf for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000 documents that deal with some aspect of computer security! My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM To: Framers@FrameUsers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Good grief - that google search for Documents and Settings\ filetype:pdf has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller? Cheers, Rebecca Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/06 10:56 PM Dov Isaacs wrote: ... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= turn off Convert Document Information in PDFMaker). I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm..., http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html (Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?) Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Fred. Ouch! This is exactly the reason (information inside files) that I started this set of questions in the first place! We wanted to avoid a problem with inadvertent hidden content in a Word or Excel file that somebody here sent out of the company. I was hoping that PDF would prevent it, but learned that I needed to do something extra to prevent it! At least this info is automatically not present in the PDF if I disable the item as suggested. In Word, we not have such controls, as far as I know, and asking users to all remember to change the properties, etc., is not going to work. Too easy to forget! So, sorry, Shlomo, I'd much rather live without the feature than have such problems occur! :) Z Ridder, Fred wrote: That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was specified. The search returns all pages that include the word Document or the word Settings, not just the ones that have inappropriate metadata strings. Use the search specification Documents and Settings +pdf for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000 documents that deal with some aspect of computer security! My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM To: Framers@FrameUsers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Good grief - that google search for Documents and Settings\ filetype:pdf has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller? Cheers, Rebecca Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/06 10:56 PM Dov Isaacs wrote: ... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= turn off Convert Document Information in PDFMaker). I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm..., http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html (Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?) Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- | Syed Zaeem HosainSenior Vice President | | Chief Technical Officer | | | | Aeris.nettel: (408) 557-1905 | | 1245 South Winchester Blvd. fax: (408) 557-1925 | | San Jose, CA 95128-3908. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:01:28 -0700 From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What do you use for PDF generation? To: framers framers@frameusers.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, all. Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include text e-mail! This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the Internet at all times. Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z Z, Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller? Cheers, Ron ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Ron Teplitz wrote: Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller? Cheers, Ron Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro 7 for my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all other programs too. :) My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995 as the preferred solution for this new policy ... those seem to have garnered the most votes too, but I do plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well. What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as a freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply crashes too often on my system. Not good enough. Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an Enterprise total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I liked it (I use my copy of the PDF to Word convertor on occasion), but the total cost is a bit high. This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ... Thanks! Z Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:01:28 -0700 From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What do you use for PDF generation? To: framers framers@frameusers.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, all. Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include text e-mail! This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the Internet at all times. Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Z, One other possibility is to have folks import their Word docs into OpenOffice, and then Save as PDF. OO does a very nice job. I don't have experience converting Excel to PDF in OO, but that should be OK too. Hope this helps, Mike McCallister On 5/23/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995 as the preferred solution for this new policy ... those seem to have garnered the most votes too, but I do plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z ___ -- Mike McCallister Technical Writing Consultant, Compuware Author, SUSE Linux 10 Unleashed ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these PDF files escape the environment in which they were created and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font definitions with improper names and encodings that cause chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. Just because those other employees are not publishing vast tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. Good points, yes! We have some people who create print-quality documents for which we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the right way to go for sure! It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having original documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned by properties information in a Word doc recently - an older doc was used to create a new one and ... oops! None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated. Z -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:09 AM To: Ron Teplitz Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Ron Teplitz wrote: Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller? Cheers, Ron Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro 7 for my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all other programs too. :) My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995 as the preferred solution for this new policy ... those seem to have garnered the most votes too, but I do plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well. What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as a freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply crashes too often on my system. Not good enough. Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an Enterprise total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I liked it (I use my copy of the PDF to Word convertor on occasion), but the total cost is a bit high. This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ... Thanks! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hint, hint ... I am just a dumb engineer here at Adobe. I don't set the prices or have any influence over those issues. By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! - Dov -Original Message- From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:36 PM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: Ron Teplitz; Framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these PDF files escape the environment in which they were created and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font definitions with improper names and encodings that cause chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. Just because those other employees are not publishing vast tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. Good points, yes! We have some people who create print-quality documents for which we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the right way to go for sure! It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having original documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned by properties information in a Word doc recently - an older doc was used to create a new one and ... oops! None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: Hint, hint ... I am just a dumb engineer here at Adobe. I don't set the prices or have any influence over those issues. Oops, I was not aiming that at you per se! Sorry about that. By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! Ouch. I did not know this happened. I will check my stuff very carefully then and set it up properly. Is there a way to disable this permanently, like a setting, in Acrobat so that it does not occur as a matter of course? Z -Original Message- From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:36 PM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: Ron Teplitz; Framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these PDF files escape the environment in which they were created and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font definitions with improper names and encodings that cause chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. Just because those other employees are not publishing vast tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. Good points, yes! We have some people who create print-quality documents for which we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the right way to go for sure! It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having original documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned by properties information in a Word doc recently - an older doc was used to create a new one and ... oops! None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi Z, You wrote: One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used their stuff? I have not used the enterprise version, but I used to use the regular version of pdf995, and I loved it! It does a great job of producing PDFs, and, as you say, the price is hard to beat. Chuck ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What do you use for PDF generation?
Setting up a watched folder on a network drive that can be accessed by more than one user is specifically prohibited by the Acrobat EULA. It's not a matter of violating some copyright law, but it is certainly *not*permitted* under the software license. Adobe does have licenses that permit this kind of operation, but those products cost thousands (rather than hundreds) of dollars. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Kimball Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:50 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF generation? Hi, Another possibility is to set up a network drive on a server that has Distiller installed on it, and share the watched in-out folders. That way, many people can use one installation of Distiller. I guess it's possible that would violate some copyright law, so I'm only suggesting it based on resolution of that issue. But I have seen it done, and it can work if things are kept in proportion. Bruce Kimball www.zhando.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi, Bill. Bill Swallow wrote: If you have enough people who need to create PDFs by corporate mandate, look into setting up Adove Acrobat Elements. It's a volume license solution that starts at 100 seats. Your entire company could be set up to use this. Thanks! You are the second person to refer to this product. I will look into it, particularly since a few of us use Acrobat Pro and the products are probably pretty similar in many regards - makes support easier. One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used their stuff? Z On 5/21/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all. Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include text e-mail! This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the Internet at all times. Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- | Syed Zaeem HosainSenior Vice President | | Chief Technical Officer | | | | Aeris.nettel: (408) 557-1905 | | 1245 South Winchester Blvd. fax: (408) 557-1925 | | San Jose, CA 95128-3908. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.