Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Karen,

A few years ago while I was working for translation agencies, this would happen 
with Russian fonts, due to lack of Unicode support in FrameMaker 7. As I 
recall, our linguistic engineers had some utilities for converting Cyrillic 
characters back to non-Unicode font layouts. The main problem is FM 7's lack of 
Unicode support.



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Thank you for responding. The files were in 8 different languages and the 
Russian files were all in question marks.



We had a situation where our SDL (translation software) version had to be put 
to a FM ver 7 mif (which does not recognize Unicode) because SDL did not 
recognize FM11 mif. A while ago SDL advanced to recognize FM 11 mif. I didn't 
know and one of the Framers informed me to save file to FM11 mif, open mif in 
FM ver9 and save to .fm. It worked! Caution...make sure you either 
distinctively name the different versions or put them in differently named 
folders/directories.



I would like to add, you have to delete the FM 11 book file and create a new 
book file in FM9, and always open the file from within the proper FM version.



Love our Framers...



Thanks everyone. Job done on time.

Karen Mann
kmann at i-t-tech.com<mailto:kmann at i-t-tech.com>
262-251-9702 Ext. 111

IT Technologies
N96W15504 County Line Rd.
Germantown, WI 53022

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RE: Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Karen,

A few years ago while I was working for translation agencies, this would happen 
with Russian fonts, due to lack of Unicode support in FrameMaker 7. As I 
recall, our linguistic engineers had some utilities for converting Cyrillic 
characters back to non-Unicode font layouts. The main problem is FM 7's lack of 
Unicode support.



Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |  c. 
503.805.3719  |  mhoff...@adobe.com<mailto:mhoff...@adobe.com>
http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann  blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Karen Mann
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 8:15 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9


Thank you for responding. The files were in 8 different languages and the 
Russian files were all in question marks.



We had a situation where our SDL (translation software) version had to be put 
to a FM ver 7 mif (which does not recognize Unicode) because SDL did not 
recognize FM11 mif. A while ago SDL advanced to recognize FM 11 mif. I didn't 
know and one of the Framers informed me to save file to FM11 mif, open mif in 
FM ver9 and save to .fm. It worked! Caution...make sure you either 
distinctively name the different versions or put them in differently named 
folders/directories.



I would like to add, you have to delete the FM 11 book file and create a new 
book file in FM9, and always open the file from within the proper FM version.



Love our Framers...



Thanks everyone. Job done on time.

Karen Mann
km...@i-t-tech.com<mailto:km...@i-t-tech.com>
262-251-9702 Ext. 111

IT Technologies
N96W15504 County Line Rd.
Germantown, WI 53022

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RE: Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Harro de Jong]

Karen Mann wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Yep, got a problem.
> Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always
> worked before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11
> as .mif 7 - then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the
> new  FM 9 .fm file  through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file 
> shows
> up in question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss
> something. Anyone else having this issue?

What language is this file in? This sounds a bit like the pre-Unicode situation 
where non-ASCII languages needed a custom font to be displayed correctly. 

Harro de Jong
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Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Karen Mann]

Thank you for responding. The files were in 8 different languages and the 
Russian files were all in question marks.



We had a situation where our SDL (translation software) version had to be put 
to a FM ver 7 mif (which does not recognize Unicode) because SDL did not 
recognize FM11 mif. A while ago SDL advanced to recognize FM 11 mif. I didn't 
know and one of the Framers informed me to save file to FM11 mif, open mif in 
FM ver9 and save to .fm. It worked! Caution...make sure you either 
distinctively name the different versions or put them in differently named 
folders/directories.



I would like to add, you have to delete the FM 11 book file and create a new 
book file in FM9, and always open the file from within the proper FM version.



Love our Framers...



Thanks everyone. Job done on time.

Karen Mann
kmann at i-t-tech.com
262-251-9702 Ext. 111

IT Technologies
N96W15504 County Line Rd.
Germantown, WI 53022

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Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Harro de Jong]

Karen Mann wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Yep, got a problem.
> Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always
> worked before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11
> as .mif 7 - then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the
> new ?FM 9 .fm file ?through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file 
> shows
> up in question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss
> something. Anyone else having this issue?

What language is this file in? This sounds a bit like the pre-Unicode situation 
where non-ASCII languages needed a custom font to be displayed correctly. 

Harro de Jong

Re: Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Karen Mann]

Thank you for responding. The files were in 8 different languages and the 
Russian files were all in question marks.



We had a situation where our SDL (translation software) version had to be put 
to a FM ver 7 mif (which does not recognize Unicode) because SDL did not 
recognize FM11 mif. A while ago SDL advanced to recognize FM 11 mif. I didn't 
know and one of the Framers informed me to save file to FM11 mif, open mif in 
FM ver9 and save to .fm. It worked! Caution...make sure you either 
distinctively name the different versions or put them in differently named 
folders/directories.



I would like to add, you have to delete the FM 11 book file and create a new 
book file in FM9, and always open the file from within the proper FM version.



Love our Framers...



Thanks everyone. Job done on time.

Karen Mann
km...@i-t-tech.com
262-251-9702 Ext. 111

IT Technologies
N96W15504 County Line Rd.
Germantown, WI 53022

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Re: Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Karen, 

you might also try the FM 11-mif format. FM 9 seems to open these files,
and probably thus the font information will be correct. 

(In any case, FM 9 should be patched to its last version, as the support
for the FM 7.2 "not Unicode" characters was added very late.) 

Why this once worked but not now... I have no idea. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Karen Mann: 

> Hi everyone, 
> 
> Yep, got a problem. 
> 
> Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always 
> worked before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11 
> as .mif 7 - then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the 
> new FM 9 .fm file through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file shows 
> up in question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss 
> something… 
> 
> Anyone else having this issue? 
> 
> Thank you in advance for your efforts. 
> 
> Karen Mann 
> 
> km...@i-t-tech.com 
> 
> 262-251-9702 Ext. 111 
> 
> IT Technologies 
> 
> N96W15504 County Line Rd. 
> 
> Germantown, WI 53022
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Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Heiko Haida]

Hi Karen, 

you might also try the FM 11-mif format. FM 9 seems to open these files,
and probably thus the font information will be correct. 

(In any case, FM 9 should be patched to its last version, as the support
for the FM 7.2 "not Unicode" characters was added very late.) 

Why this once worked but not now... I have no idea. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Karen Mann: 

> Hi everyone, 
> 
> Yep, got a problem. 
> 
> Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always 
> worked before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11 
> as .mif 7 - then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the 
> new FM 9 .fm file through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file shows 
> up in question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss 
> something? 
> 
> Anyone else having this issue? 
> 
> Thank you in advance for your efforts. 
> 
> Karen Mann 
> 
> kmann at i-t-tech.com 
> 
> 262-251-9702 Ext. 111 
> 
> IT Technologies 
> 
> N96W15504 County Line Rd. 
> 
> Germantown, WI 53022

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[Karen Mann]

Hi everyone,
Yep, got a problem.
Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always worked 
before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11 as .mif 7 
- then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the new  FM 9 
.fm file  through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file shows up in 
question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss something...
Anyone else having this issue?

Thank you in advance for your efforts.

Karen Mann
kmann at i-t-tech.com
262-251-9702 Ext. 111

IT Technologies
N96W15504 County Line Rd.
Germantown, WI 53022

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Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Karen Mann]

Hi everyone,
Yep, got a problem.
Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always worked 
before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11 as .mif 7 
- then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the new  FM 9 
.fm file  through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file shows up in 
question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss something...
Anyone else having this issue?

Thank you in advance for your efforts.

Karen Mann
km...@i-t-tech.com
262-251-9702 Ext. 111

IT Technologies
N96W15504 County Line Rd.
Germantown, WI 53022

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