Re: unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-22 Thread Stuart Rogers 

On 21/07/2011 7:36 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:

Hi Stuart,

As John mentioned, your problem is that you have no frame named
TableFootnote on the Reference Pages

You’ll need to add a frame to the reference page to control that
space… it doesn’t need to have content but I believe it’ll require a
name of TableFootnote, as John mentioned. That should be the end of
it, and you can resize that empty frame to space out your text.

I believe John’s solution is 1 step farther than you need to go...in
my experience, you’ll not need to apply a Frame Above to the Table
Footnote paragraph tag. To do so would add the frame again in between
 multiparagraph footnotes.

It sounds like one of 2 things happened:

1.Your template file began its life with FM 6 or so, before there was
a TableFootnote frame on the Ref Pages

2.You accidentally deleted the TableFootnote frame on the Reference
Pages



Matt, John, thanks to you both.

I am in the process of creating a new template, and in so doing am 
sticking to a particular naming convention.  One way or another I ended 
up with a new or newly named tag for the table footnotes, and it did not 
have the Frame Above set to anything.  Once you and the other listers 
pointed out the use of Frame Above, I was able to verify its presence in 
FM's default tag, and its absence in my new tag.  Adding it to the 
definition and playing with the height of the frame on the ref. page has 
done the trick.


Thanks again to all who replied,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-22 Thread John Pitt 
Stuart,

You should be able to control the space above by adding a Frame Above 
Pgf on the Advanced tab of Para Designer.

My templates include a TableFootnote option in the dropdown, but if that 
option is not already available you can build one on the Reference pages.

jjj

On 22/07/2011 3:00 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:
> TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3
>
> I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a
> sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the
> table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the
> bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the
> letters in the footnote text.
>
> I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag;
> doing so causes the*following*  paragraph to move down, but has no
> effect on the footnote text.
>
> I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.
>
> I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the
> table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.
>
> The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as
> far as I can tell.
>
> Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?
>
> thanks,

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unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-22 Thread Stuart Rogers 
On 21/07/2011 7:36 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> Hi Stuart,
>
> As John mentioned, your problem is that you have no frame named
> TableFootnote on the Reference Pages
>
> You?ll need to add a frame to the reference page to control that
> space? it doesn?t need to have content but I believe it?ll require a
> name of TableFootnote, as John mentioned. That should be the end of
> it, and you can resize that empty frame to space out your text.
>
> I believe John?s solution is 1 step farther than you need to go...in
> my experience, you?ll not need to apply a Frame Above to the Table
> Footnote paragraph tag. To do so would add the frame again in between
>  multiparagraph footnotes.
>
> It sounds like one of 2 things happened:
>
> 1.Your template file began its life with FM 6 or so, before there was
> a TableFootnote frame on the Ref Pages
>
> 2.You accidentally deleted the TableFootnote frame on the Reference
> Pages
>

Matt, John, thanks to you both.

I am in the process of creating a new template, and in so doing am 
sticking to a particular naming convention.  One way or another I ended 
up with a new or newly named tag for the table footnotes, and it did not 
have the Frame Above set to anything.  Once you and the other listers 
pointed out the use of Frame Above, I was able to verify its presence in 
FM's default tag, and its absence in my new tag.  Adding it to the 
definition and playing with the height of the frame on the ref. page has 
done the trick.

Thanks again to all who replied,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-21 Thread Stuart Rogers 

TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3

I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a 
sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the 
table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the 
bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the 
letters in the footnote text.


I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag; 
doing so causes the *following* paragraph to move down, but has no 
effect on the footnote text.


I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the 
table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.


The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as 
far as I can tell.


Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?

thanks,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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RE: unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-21 Thread Paul Wilbraham 
Sutart

On the reference pages, there is a frame for table footnotes. If you increase 
the height of this frame, it will increase the space below the table.

If it is missing, you can copy the frame from the reference page of any new 
document.

HTH

 

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Subject: unable to position table footnote pgf

TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3

I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a 
sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the 
table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the 
bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the 
letters in the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag; 
doing so causes the *following* paragraph to move down, but has no 
effect on the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the 
table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.

The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as 
far as I can tell.

Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?

thanks,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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Re: unable to position table footnote pgf SOLVED

2011-07-21 Thread Stuart Rogers 

On 21/07/2011 1:22 PM, Paul Wilbraham wrote:

Sutart

On the reference pages, there is a frame for table footnotes. If you
increase the height of this frame, it will increase the space below
the table.

If it is missing, you can copy the frame from the reference page of
any new document.



Thanks, Paul, that was the solution.  The frame was on the ref page, but 
was not included in my table-footnote pgf tag definition.


best regards,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Re: unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-21 Thread John Pitt 

Stuart,

You should be able to control the space above by adding a Frame Above 
Pgf on the Advanced tab of Para Designer.


My templates include a TableFootnote option in the dropdown, but if that 
option is not already available you can build one on the Reference pages.


jjj

On 22/07/2011 3:00 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:

TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3

I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a
sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the
table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the
bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the
letters in the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag;
doing so causes the*following*  paragraph to move down, but has no
effect on the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the
table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.

The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as
far as I can tell.

Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?

thanks,


--
/Pragmatism rules, OK?/

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8 Hendrix St
Windaroo QLD 4207
Ph: 07 3804 0416
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Mob: 0438 92 8096
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RE: unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-21 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Hi Stuart,

 

As John mentioned, your problem is that you have no frame named TableFootnote 
on the Reference Pages

 

You’ll need to add a frame to the reference page to control that space… it 
doesn’t need to have content but I believe it’ll require a name of 
TableFootnote, as John mentioned. That should be the end of it, and you can 
resize that empty frame to space out your text. 

 

I believe John’s solution is 1 step farther than you need to go...in my 
experience, you’ll not need to apply a Frame Above to the Table Footnote 
paragraph tag. To do so would add the frame again in between multiparagraph 
footnotes.

 

 

It sounds like one of 2 things happened:

1.   Your template file began its life with FM 6 or so, before there was a 
TableFootnote frame on the Ref Pages

2.   You accidentally deleted the TableFootnote frame on the Reference Pages

 

Either way, let me know if this solution solves your problem.

 

-Matt

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Subject: Re: unable to position table footnote pgf

 

Stuart,

You should be able to control the space above by adding a Frame Above Pgf on 
the Advanced tab of Para Designer. 

My templates include a TableFootnote option in the dropdown, but if that option 
is not already available you can build one on the Reference pages. 

jjj

On 22/07/2011 3:00 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote: 

TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3
 
I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a 
sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the 
table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the 
bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the 
letters in the footnote text.
 
I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag; 
doing so causes the *following* paragraph to move down, but has no 
effect on the footnote text.
 
I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.
 
I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the 
table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.
 
The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as 
far as I can tell.
 
Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?
 
thanks,

 

-- 
Pragmatism rules, OK? 

  _  

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8 Hendrix St 
Windaroo QLD 4207 
Ph: 07 3804 0416 
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Mob: 0438 92 8096 
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unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-21 Thread Stuart Rogers 
TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3

I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a 
sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the 
table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the 
bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the 
letters in the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag; 
doing so causes the *following* paragraph to move down, but has no 
effect on the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the 
table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.

The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as 
far as I can tell.

Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?

thanks,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-21 Thread Paul Wilbraham 
Sutart

On the reference pages, there is a frame for table footnotes. If you increase 
the height of this frame, it will increase the space below the table.

If it is missing, you can copy the frame from the reference page of any new 
document.

HTH

?

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AIS)?
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Tel:? ?+44?(0)131?226?5893
Mob: +44 (0)7787 255 089 
Fax:??+44?(0)131?777?8015
Email: paul.wilbraham at m-ais.com
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Subject: unable to position table footnote pgf

TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3

I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a 
sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the 
table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the 
bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the 
letters in the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag; 
doing so causes the *following* paragraph to move down, but has no 
effect on the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the 
table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.

The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as 
far as I can tell.

Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?

thanks,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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unable to position table footnote pgf SOLVED

2011-07-21 Thread Stuart Rogers 
On 21/07/2011 1:22 PM, Paul Wilbraham wrote:
> Sutart
>
> On the reference pages, there is a frame for table footnotes. If you
> increase the height of this frame, it will increase the space below
> the table.
>
> If it is missing, you can copy the frame from the reference page of
> any new document.
>

Thanks, Paul, that was the solution.  The frame was on the ref page, but 
was not included in my table-footnote pgf tag definition.

best regards,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-21 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Hi Stuart,



As John mentioned, your problem is that you have no frame named TableFootnote 
on the Reference Pages



You?ll need to add a frame to the reference page to control that space? it 
doesn?t need to have content but I believe it?ll require a name of 
TableFootnote, as John mentioned. That should be the end of it, and you can 
resize that empty frame to space out your text. 



I believe John?s solution is 1 step farther than you need to go...in my 
experience, you?ll not need to apply a Frame Above to the Table Footnote 
paragraph tag. To do so would add the frame again in between multiparagraph 
footnotes.





It sounds like one of 2 things happened:

1.   Your template file began its life with FM 6 or so, before there was a 
TableFootnote frame on the Ref Pages

2.   You accidentally deleted the TableFootnote frame on the Reference Pages



Either way, let me know if this solution solves your problem.



-Matt

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Stuart Rogers
Subject: Re: unable to position table footnote pgf



Stuart,

You should be able to control the space above by adding a Frame Above Pgf on 
the Advanced tab of Para Designer. 

My templates include a TableFootnote option in the dropdown, but if that option 
is not already available you can build one on the Reference pages. 

jjj

On 22/07/2011 3:00 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote: 

TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3

I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a 
sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the 
table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the 
bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the 
letters in the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag; 
doing so causes the *following* paragraph to move down, but has no 
effect on the footnote text.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.

I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the 
table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.

The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as 
far as I can tell.

Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?

thanks,



-- 
Pragmatism rules, OK? 

  _  

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8 Hendrix St 
Windaroo QLD 4207 
Ph: 07 3804 0416 
VoIP: 07 3495 5185 
Mob: 0438 92 8096 
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