Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
Hi Peter, Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply! My comment was not focused on a specific FM8 bug, but on the apparent state of affairs where a product is released "as is" so as not to miss a deadline, but losing out on other fronts in major ways. Some other FM8 bugs/issues are listed at www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 (and several others were reported in different FrameMaker forums). Obviously, I cannot comment on whether the specific format selection bug was reported during beta testing or not. You say that "FM 8.0.1 came out pretty soon after 8.0". FM8 was released end of July/beginning of August, and the patch was made available Nov. 22 -- so that's three and a half months at least. Interestingly, the same FM8.0.1 patch was implemented in the Adobe Tech Comm Suite, released one month earlier than the FM8 patch. Regards, Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
Hi Peter, Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply! My comment was not focused on a specific FM8 bug, but on the apparent state of affairs where a product is released "as is" so as not to miss a deadline, but losing out on other fronts in major ways. Some other FM8 bugs/issues are listed at www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 (and several others were reported in different FrameMaker forums). Obviously, I cannot comment on whether the specific format selection bug was reported during beta testing or not. You say that "FM 8.0.1 came out pretty soon after 8.0". FM8 was released end of July/beginning of August, and the patch was made available Nov. 22 -- so that's three and a half months at least. Interestingly, the same FM8.0.1 patch was implemented in the Adobe Tech Comm Suite, released one month earlier than the FM8 patch. Regards, Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
Will White wrote:
> How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get
> past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software?
> Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the
> answer is, sadly, "They don't".
> In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to FM8.
FrameMaker 8.0 was released according to the schedule Adobe announced well
in advance ("Adobe has not published the time frame for the next release of
FrameMaker... However, our current assumption is that the next major
release of FrameMaker will be in the first half of 2007", Adobe Solutions
for Tech Comm FAQ, PDF dated July 18, 2006).
However, bugs and issues reported by many of the those eager to move to the
new version seem to indicate insufficient testing prior to release.
Adherence to time tables is certainly important, but in this case, it seems
to me that FrameMaker 8.0 -- at least at this stage -- will be associated
more with the ongoing problems and user frustration, rather than with the
release according to schedule. Was it worth it? I have my doubts...
Shlomo Perets
MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets wrote: > Adherence to time tables is certainly important, but in this case, it seems > to me that FrameMaker 8.0 -- at least at this stage -- will be associated > more with the ongoing problems and user frustration, rather than with the > release according to schedule. Was it worth it? I have my doubts... > > > Shlomo Perets Hi, Shlomo: It's always embarrassing when this kind of relatively minor but supremely annoying bug slips through into a released product. If the bug was reported during beta testing, but wasn't fixed because resources and development time were devoted more to the major improvements in Unicode, XML, and DITA areas, and less to bugs like this, it's a bad choice to have made, because however small they seem, they do interrupt smooth working habits. For example, when a fast typist applies formats by proven keystroke shortcut sequences, and later finds out they have been ignored, retracing one's steps destroys efficiency as well as trust in one's skills and in the product. If the bugs weren't reported, however, it's possible that the beta-test community of users (experienced users invited to participate, not just in-house Adobe developers and testers) didn't use the shortcuts, and didn't see the problem. Beta testers are encouraged to use the product in their normal workflows, so perhaps only a few users use these shortcuts. As a side issue, it would be discouraging to find out that only a small number of users are aware of and use these efficient shortcuts - when they work, they're very helpful. In the larger view, when something in software breaks when other things are added, it's a sign that the overall architecture of the product is hard to maintain. This has always been an issue with adding features to FrameMaker; it's always been difficult to maintain the architecture, so adding new useful features and abilities has always lagged. IMO, the release of the new Technical Communications Suite is a good place to stop holding on to the old architectures of these suite products, and time for Adobe to begin serious development of new and proven engineering that brings the products into the current generation. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adherence to time tables is certainly important, but in this case, it seems > to me that FrameMaker 8.0 -- at least at this stage -- will be associated > more with the ongoing problems and user frustration, rather than with the > release according to schedule. Was it worth it? I have my doubts... > > > Shlomo Perets Hi, Shlomo: It's always embarrassing when this kind of relatively minor but supremely annoying bug slips through into a released product. If the bug was reported during beta testing, but wasn't fixed because resources and development time were devoted more to the major improvements in Unicode, XML, and DITA areas, and less to bugs like this, it's a bad choice to have made, because however small they seem, they do interrupt smooth working habits. For example, when a fast typist applies formats by proven keystroke shortcut sequences, and later finds out they have been ignored, retracing one's steps destroys efficiency as well as trust in one's skills and in the product. If the bugs weren't reported, however, it's possible that the beta-test community of users (experienced users invited to participate, not just in-house Adobe developers and testers) didn't use the shortcuts, and didn't see the problem. Beta testers are encouraged to use the product in their normal workflows, so perhaps only a few users use these shortcuts. As a side issue, it would be discouraging to find out that only a small number of users are aware of and use these efficient shortcuts - when they work, they're very helpful. In the larger view, when something in software breaks when other things are added, it's a sign that the overall architecture of the product is hard to maintain. This has always been an issue with adding features to FrameMaker; it's always been difficult to maintain the architecture, so adding new useful features and abilities has always lagged. IMO, the release of the new Technical Communications Suite is a good place to stop holding on to the old architectures of these suite products, and time for Adobe to begin serious development of new and proven engineering that brings the products into the current generation. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
Will White wrote:
> How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get
> past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software?
> Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the
> answer is, sadly, "They don't".
> In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to FM8.
FrameMaker 8.0 was released according to the schedule Adobe announced well
in advance ("Adobe has not published the time frame for the next release of
FrameMaker... However, our current assumption is that the next major
release of FrameMaker will be in the first half of 2007", Adobe Solutions
for Tech Comm FAQ, PDF dated July 18, 2006).
However, bugs and issues reported by many of the those eager to move to the
new version seem to indicate insufficient testing prior to release.
Adherence to time tables is certainly important, but in this case, it seems
to me that FrameMaker 8.0 -- at least at this stage -- will be associated
more with the ongoing problems and user frustration, rather than with the
release according to schedule. Was it worth it? I have my doubts...
Shlomo Perets
MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
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Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
Well, to make F8 and F9 work you have to keep the Character Designer resp. Paragraph Designer closed -- that is what you would recommend to authors, don't you? With FM8.0p266 I found Ctrl+1 and Ctrl+2 to be working as expected, but to be able to use Ctrl+3 (Change Element) you need to have the Element window closed. Ctrl+4/5/6 are used to apply some/remove some/remove all conditions from a text, and they seem to be not affected, maybe because there is no non-modal associated window available. At least there are work-arounds... - Michael Am 02.12.2007 um 17:20 schrieb Alan Houser: > The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. > It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element > operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph > formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's > productivity using FrameMaker, and minimize reliance on the mouse. > > In FM8, the shortcuts "time out", at an apparently random interval. > Often the shortcut time-out is almost immediate. These keyboard > shortcuts are nearly unusable in FM8. > > I would also be interested in hearing whether anybody does _not_ > experience this problem with FrameMaker 8, or if there is a work- > around. > > -Alan > > Diane Gaskill wrote: >> Hi Greg, >> >> Yes, it was free. :-) But they did not fix everything. I still have >> problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts. >> the tag list >> does not stay in the field as it should. This is real problem >> because I >> rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things. Not being able to >> use th F9 >> key is a real productivity slowdown. >> -- Michael M?ller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologien Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker Info&Blog: http://cap-studio.de/ Tipp: http://cap-studio.de/wp/index.php/2007/11/rss-feed-ie7/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
Well, to make F8 and F9 work you have to keep the Character Designer resp. Paragraph Designer closed -- that is what you would recommend to authors, don't you? With FM8.0p266 I found Ctrl+1 and Ctrl+2 to be working as expected, but to be able to use Ctrl+3 (Change Element) you need to have the Element window closed. Ctrl+4/5/6 are used to apply some/remove some/remove all conditions from a text, and they seem to be not affected, maybe because there is no non-modal associated window available. At least there are work-arounds... - Michael Am 02.12.2007 um 17:20 schrieb Alan Houser: > The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. > It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element > operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph > formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's > productivity using FrameMaker, and minimize reliance on the mouse. > > In FM8, the shortcuts "time out", at an apparently random interval. > Often the shortcut time-out is almost immediate. These keyboard > shortcuts are nearly unusable in FM8. > > I would also be interested in hearing whether anybody does _not_ > experience this problem with FrameMaker 8, or if there is a work- > around. > > -Alan > > Diane Gaskill wrote: >> Hi Greg, >> >> Yes, it was free. :-) But they did not fix everything. I still have >> problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts. >> the tag list >> does not stay in the field as it should. This is real problem >> because I >> rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things. Not being able to >> use th F9 >> key is a real productivity slowdown. >> -- Michael Müller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologien Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker Info&Blog: http://cap-studio.de/ Tipp: http://cap-studio.de/wp/index.php/2007/11/rss-feed-ie7/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's productivity using FrameMaker, and minimize reliance on the mouse. In FM8, the shortcuts "time out", at an apparently random interval. Often the shortcut time-out is almost immediate. These keyboard shortcuts are nearly unusable in FM8. I would also be interested in hearing whether anybody does _not_ experience this problem with FrameMaker 8, or if there is a work-around. -Alan Diane Gaskill wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Yes, it was free. :-) But they did not fix everything. I still have > problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts. the tag list > does not stay in the field as it should. This is real problem because I > rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things. Not being able to use th F9 > key is a real productivity slowdown. > > Does anyone know of a workaround that will make the F9 key behave? > > Thanks, > > Diane -- Alan Houser, President Group Wellesley, Inc. 412-363-3481 www.groupwellesley.com
Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
Hello All - How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the answer is, sadly, "They don't". In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to FM8. Will White On Dec 2, 2007, at 8:20 AM, Alan Houser wrote: > The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. > It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element > operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph > formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's > productivity using FrameMaker, and minimize reliance on the mouse. > > In FM8, the shortcuts "time out", at an apparently random interval. > Often the shortcut time-out is almost immediate. These keyboard > shortcuts are nearly unusable in FM8. > > I would also be interested in hearing whether anybody does _not_ > experience this problem with FrameMaker 8, or if there is a work- > around. > > -Alan > > Diane Gaskill wrote: >> Hi Greg, >> >> Yes, it was free. :-) But they did not fix everything. I still have >> problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts. >> the tag list >> does not stay in the field as it should. This is real problem >> because I >> rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things. Not being able to >> use th F9 >> key is a real productivity slowdown. >> >> Does anyone know of a workaround that will make the F9 key behave? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Diane > -- > Alan Houser, President > Group Wellesley, Inc. > 412-363-3481 > www.groupwellesley.com > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > whitefamily%40mac.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ There's the right way and the wrong way. Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster. +++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
Hello All - How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the answer is, sadly, "They don't". In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to FM8. Will White On Dec 2, 2007, at 8:20 AM, Alan Houser wrote: > The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. > It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element > operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph > formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's > productivity using FrameMaker, and minimize reliance on the mouse. > > In FM8, the shortcuts "time out", at an apparently random interval. > Often the shortcut time-out is almost immediate. These keyboard > shortcuts are nearly unusable in FM8. > > I would also be interested in hearing whether anybody does _not_ > experience this problem with FrameMaker 8, or if there is a work- > around. > > -Alan > > Diane Gaskill wrote: >> Hi Greg, >> >> Yes, it was free. :-) But they did not fix everything. I still have >> problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts. >> the tag list >> does not stay in the field as it should. This is real problem >> because I >> rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things. Not being able to >> use th F9 >> key is a real productivity slowdown. >> >> Does anyone know of a workaround that will make the F9 key behave? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Diane > -- > Alan Houser, President > Group Wellesley, Inc. > 412-363-3481 > www.groupwellesley.com > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as whitefamily at mac.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > whitefamily%40mac.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ There's the right way and the wrong way. Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster. +++
Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)
The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's productivity using FrameMaker, and minimize reliance on the mouse. In FM8, the shortcuts "time out", at an apparently random interval. Often the shortcut time-out is almost immediate. These keyboard shortcuts are nearly unusable in FM8. I would also be interested in hearing whether anybody does _not_ experience this problem with FrameMaker 8, or if there is a work-around. -Alan Diane Gaskill wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Yes, it was free. :-) But they did not fix everything. I still have > problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts. the tag list > does not stay in the field as it should. This is real problem because I > rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things. Not being able to use th F9 > key is a real productivity slowdown. > > Does anyone know of a workaround that will make the F9 key behave? > > Thanks, > > Diane -- Alan Houser, President Group Wellesley, Inc. 412-363-3481 www.groupwellesley.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
Hi Greg, Yes, it was free. :-) But they did not fix everything. I still have problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts. the tag list does not stay in the field as it should. This is real problem because I rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things. Not being able to use th F9 key is a real productivity slowdown. Does anyone know of a workaround that will make the F9 key behave? Thanks, Diane -Original Message- From: Greg Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 4:30 PM To: Diane Gaskill Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The patch was free? Greg Thompson -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 02:01:01 -0800 > CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Hi Randall, > > Believe it or not, I don't actually know. To get the patch, I clicked Help > > Updater in FM8 and it did the whole thing for me. During the update, it > required that I close FM but that is all I had to do. > > Hope this helps. > > Diane > > -- > > -Original Message- > From: Randall Larson-Maynard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:25 AM > To: 'Diane Gaskill' > Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue > > > Diane > > Where is the patch? I am unable to find it on the Adobe site. Thanks. > > > -- > Randall Larson-Maynard > Senior Editor/Curriculum Coordinator > UC Davis, Office of the University Registrar > RLLarsonMaynard(at)UCDavis.edu > 530.752.6141 > Fax 530.752.0329 > Google Talk, AIM, & Yahoo! IM: rlarsonmaynard > Registrar Editor SmartSite: https://sakai2.ucdavis.edu:8443/portal > -- > > > -Original Message- > From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:33 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue > > > The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around > it > you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. > > But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last > week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. > > Diane > = > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Valerie Lipow > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne > Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue > > > Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will > solve > the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill > a > book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether > the > book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that > everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book > individually, > until Adobe releases a patch. > > -- > Valerie Lipow > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 10/30/07, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > > files are open on your desktop. > > > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > > the PDF logical printer... > > > > Art > > > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can > > > PDF the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using > > > Windows Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the > > > printer to Adobe PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the > > > first file in the book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > > Senior Technical Writer > > > Polaris Library Systems > > > PO Box 4903 > > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > > 800-272-3414 > > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > > Art Campbell > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in
8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
Hi Greg, Yes, it was free. :-) But they did not fix everything. I still have problems with my F9 key when trying to use keyboard shortcuts. the tag list does not stay in the field as it should. This is real problem because I rely on the shortcuts for all kinds of things. Not being able to use th F9 key is a real productivity slowdown. Does anyone know of a workaround that will make the F9 key behave? Thanks, Diane -Original Message- From: Greg Thompson [mailto:greg_ontheroad at hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 4:30 PM To: Diane Gaskill Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The patch was free? Greg Thompson -- > From: dgcaller at earthlink.net > To: rllarsonmaynard at ucdavis.edu > Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 02:01:01 -0800 > CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > Hi Randall, > > Believe it or not, I don't actually know. To get the patch, I clicked Help > > Updater in FM8 and it did the whole thing for me. During the update, it > required that I close FM but that is all I had to do. > > Hope this helps. > > Diane > > -- > > -Original Message- > From: Randall Larson-Maynard [mailto:rllarsonmaynard at ucdavis.edu] > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:25 AM > To: 'Diane Gaskill' > Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue > > > Diane > > Where is the patch? I am unable to find it on the Adobe site. Thanks. > > > -- > Randall Larson-Maynard > Senior Editor/Curriculum Coordinator > UC Davis, Office of the University Registrar > RLLarsonMaynard(at)UCDavis.edu > 530.752.6141 > Fax 530.752.0329 > Google Talk, AIM, & Yahoo! IM: rlarsonmaynard > Registrar Editor SmartSite: https://sakai2.ucdavis.edu:8443/portal > -- > > > -Original Message- > From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcaller at earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:33 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne; vallipow at aol.com > Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue > > > The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around > it > you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. > > But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last > week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. > > Diane > = > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On > Behalf Of Valerie Lipow > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne > Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue > > > Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will > solve > the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill > a > book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether > the > book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that > everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book > individually, > until Adobe releases a patch. > > -- > Valerie Lipow > vallipow at gmail.com > > On 10/30/07, Art Campbell wrote: > > > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > > files are open on your desktop. > > > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > > the PDF logical printer... > > > > Art > > > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne > > > > wrote: > > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can > > > PDF the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using > > > Windows Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the > > > printer to Adobe PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the > > > first file in the book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > > Senior Technical Writer > > > Polaris Library Systems > > > PO Box 4903 > > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > > 800-272-3414 > > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > > mailto:dorianne.gutierrez at polarislibrary.com > &
8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
Diane Gaskill wrote: > To get the patch, I clicked Help > > Updater in FM8 and it did the whole thing for me. During the update, it > required that I close FM but that is all I had to do. The online updater appears to be the only way to get the update. Strangely enough, there is no mention of FrameMaker 8.0.1 anywhere on the Adobe website, and certainly not in the usual Support > Updates section of the website. Odd... -Fred _ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista? + Windows Live?. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007
RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
Diane Gaskill wrote: > To get the patch, I clicked Help > > Updater in FM8 and it did the whole thing for me. During the update, it > required that I close FM but that is all I had to do. The online updater appears to be the only way to get the update. Strangely enough, there is no mention of FrameMaker 8.0.1 anywhere on the Adobe website, and certainly not in the usual Support > Updates section of the website. Odd... -Fred _ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
Hi Randall, Believe it or not, I don't actually know. To get the patch, I clicked Help > Updater in FM8 and it did the whole thing for me. During the update, it required that I close FM but that is all I had to do. Hope this helps. Diane -- -Original Message- From: Randall Larson-Maynard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:25 AM To: 'Diane Gaskill' Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue Diane Where is the patch? I am unable to find it on the Adobe site. Thanks. -- Randall Larson-Maynard Senior Editor/Curriculum Coordinator UC Davis, Office of the University Registrar RLLarsonMaynard(at)UCDavis.edu 530.752.6141 Fax 530.752.0329 Google Talk, AIM, & Yahoo! IM: rlarsonmaynard Registrar Editor SmartSite: https://sakai2.ucdavis.edu:8443/portal -- -Original Message- From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:33 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will solve the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. -- Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/30/07, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > files are open on your desktop. > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > the PDF logical printer... > > Art > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can > > PDF the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using > > Windows Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the > > printer to Adobe PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the > > first file in the book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > Senior Technical Writer > > Polaris Library Systems > > PO Box 4903 > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > 800-272-3414 > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Art Campbell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.c > om > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
Hi Randall, Believe it or not, I don't actually know. To get the patch, I clicked Help > Updater in FM8 and it did the whole thing for me. During the update, it required that I close FM but that is all I had to do. Hope this helps. Diane -- -Original Message- From: Randall Larson-Maynard [mailto:rllarsonmayn...@ucdavis.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:25 AM To: 'Diane Gaskill' Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue Diane Where is the patch? I am unable to find it on the Adobe site. Thanks. -- Randall Larson-Maynard Senior Editor/Curriculum Coordinator UC Davis, Office of the University Registrar RLLarsonMaynard(at)UCDavis.edu 530.752.6141 Fax 530.752.0329 Google Talk, AIM, & Yahoo! IM: rlarsonmaynard Registrar Editor SmartSite: https://sakai2.ucdavis.edu:8443/portal -- -Original Message- From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:33 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne; vallipow at aol.com Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will solve the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. -- Valerie Lipow vallipow at gmail.com On 10/30/07, Art Campbell wrote: > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > files are open on your desktop. > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > the PDF logical printer... > > Art > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne > > wrote: > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can > > PDF the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using > > Windows Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the > > printer to Adobe PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the > > first file in the book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > Senior Technical Writer > > Polaris Library Systems > > PO Box 4903 > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > 800-272-3414 > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > mailto:dorianne.gutierrez at polarislibrary.com > > > -- > Art Campbell > art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as vallipow at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.c > om > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
Like Diane I found that installing 8.0.1 fixed this problem (it also meant that the Adobe Reader "speak aloud" feature now works as per Frame 7 generated PDFs again, which it didn't properly with tagged PDFs enabled). In my case I saved to a PS file using the Adobe print driver and then generated a PDF. (As I do not have Acrobat 8 installed on my FrameMaker 8 test system, I use the Adobe PDF Add-On that comes with FrameMaker 8. When I double click on a PS file it appears to do nothing, but eventually a PDF and log file get generated. Also, I found that after installing 8.0.1 I had to reinstall the Adobe PDF Add-On by drilling down into the FrameMaker installation software and running a low level installer; but this might have been peculiar to my installation set up.) Ray Saffin Technical Writer, Staff Information Design and Development Serena Software Europe Ltd Abbey View, Everard Close, St Albans, AL1 2PS United Kingdom rsaffin at serena.com -Original Message- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:33:05 -0800 From: "Diane Gaskill" Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue To: Cc: "Gutierrez, Dorianne" , vallipow at aol.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will solve the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. -- Valerie Lipow vallipow at gmail.com On 10/30/07, Art Campbell wrote: > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > files are open on your desktop. > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > the PDF logical printer... > > Art > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne > wrote: > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can PDF > > the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using Windows > > Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the printer to Adobe > > PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the first file in the > > book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > Senior Technical Writer > > Polaris Library Systems > > PO Box 4903 > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > 800-272-3414 > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > mailto:dorianne.gutierrez at polarislibrary.com > > > -- > Art Campbell > art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as vallipow at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink .net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:54:21 -0800 From: "Flato, Gillian" Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue To: "Diane Gaskill" , Cc: &qu
8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
Like Diane I found that installing 8.0.1 fixed this problem (it also meant that the Adobe Reader "speak aloud" feature now works as per Frame 7 generated PDFs again, which it didn't properly with tagged PDFs enabled). In my case I saved to a PS file using the Adobe print driver and then generated a PDF. (As I do not have Acrobat 8 installed on my FrameMaker 8 test system, I use the Adobe PDF Add-On that comes with FrameMaker 8. When I double click on a PS file it appears to do nothing, but eventually a PDF and log file get generated. Also, I found that after installing 8.0.1 I had to reinstall the Adobe PDF Add-On by drilling down into the FrameMaker installation software and running a low level installer; but this might have been peculiar to my installation set up.) Ray Saffin Technical Writer, Staff Information Design and Development Serena Software Europe Ltd Abbey View, Everard Close, St Albans, AL1 2PS United Kingdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:33:05 -0800 From: "Diane Gaskill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue To: Cc: "Gutierrez, Dorianne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will solve the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. -- Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/30/07, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > files are open on your desktop. > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > the PDF logical printer... > > Art > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can PDF > > the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using Windows > > Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the printer to Adobe > > PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the first file in the > > book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > Senior Technical Writer > > Polaris Library Systems > > PO Box 4903 > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > 800-272-3414 > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Art Campbell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink .net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:54:21 -0800 From: "Flato, Gillian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue To: "Diane Gaskill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cc: "Gutierrez, Dorianne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECT
8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
I did install the 8.0.1 patch and I still have the same PDF problem. I still have to select the Tag option. Has anyone else found this to be true? -Gillian -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:33 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne; vallipow at aol.com Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will solve the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. -- Valerie Lipow vallipow at gmail.com On 10/30/07, Art Campbell wrote: > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > files are open on your desktop. > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > the PDF logical printer... > > Art > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne > wrote: > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can PDF > > the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using Windows > > Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the printer to Adobe > > PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the first file in the > > book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > Senior Technical Writer > > Polaris Library Systems > > PO Box 4903 > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > 800-272-3414 > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > mailto:dorianne.gutierrez at polarislibrary.com > > > -- > Art Campbell > art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as vallipow at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink .net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as gflato at nanometrics.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
I did install the 8.0.1 patch and I still have the same PDF problem. I still have to select the Tag option. Has anyone else found this to be true? -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:33 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will solve the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. -- Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/30/07, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > files are open on your desktop. > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > the PDF logical printer... > > Art > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can PDF > > the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using Windows > > Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the printer to Adobe > > PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the first file in the > > book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > Senior Technical Writer > > Polaris Library Systems > > PO Box 4903 > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > 800-272-3414 > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Art Campbell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink .net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will solve the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. -- Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/30/07, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > files are open on your desktop. > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > the PDF logical printer... > > Art > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can PDF > > the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using Windows > > Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the printer to Adobe > > PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the first file in the > > book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > Senior Technical Writer > > Polaris Library Systems > > PO Box 4903 > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > 800-272-3414 > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Art Campbell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue
The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:34 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne Subject: Re: FM Book to PDF issue Setting the Tagged PDF feature to "ON" in the Acrobat Settings dialog will solve the problem. I verified this with Adobe Tech Support. The failure to distill a book to PDF is a known issue with FM 8, which occurs regardless of whether the book is created in Structured or Unstructured FM. It is recommended that everyone use this work-around, or distill each file in the book individually, until Adobe releases a patch. -- Valerie Lipow vallipow at gmail.com On 10/30/07, Art Campbell wrote: > > Try turning Tagged PDF ON in your settings, and make sure that all > files are open on your desktop. > > Also, SaveAs may not be the best way to generate it. I would Print to > the PDF logical printer... > > Art > > On 10/29/07, Gutierrez, Dorianne > wrote: > > I cannot generate a PDF from a FrameMaker 8.0 book, although I can PDF > > the individual files with or without bookmarks. I am using Windows > > Vista, Adobe Acrobat 8.0, Distiller 8.0, and I set the printer to Adobe > > PDF before saving as PDF. The distiller tries the first file in the > > book, then chokes. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Dorianne Elitharp Gutierrez > > Senior Technical Writer > > Polaris Library Systems > > PO Box 4903 > > Syracuse NY 13221-4903 > > (direct) 315-634-4519 > > 800-272-3414 > > http://www.polarislibrary.com > > mailto:dorianne.gutierrez at polarislibrary.com > > > -- > Art Campbell > art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as vallipow at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/vallipow%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
