Re: Applying a character tag to text in FM10

[rebecca officer]

Ask the customer if they have the italic form of the font. They may just have 
forgotten to give it to you - or they may insist you use bold for emphasis too.
 
If you fake it with Oblique, I think that does carry through to PDF but not 
HTML. Someone else correct me if I'm wrong on that.
 
Cheers
Rebecca

 Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com 21/01/14 12:02 
On 2014-Jan-20 5:43 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:



All,
A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files 
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and Arial. 
They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is Regular weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags) and a Bold weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).  I have several 
character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to continue to use. One 
of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag are set to As Is with the 
exception of the angle, which I have set to Italic. 
When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e., 
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag is 
apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower left 
corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis with an 
asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had corrupted the 
tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used simply good old 
Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the text was immediately 
italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an asterisk.
I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source file, 
so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that is 
preventing character tags from being applied as expected. 
Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards,
TVB 



My first guess is that the Regular font set does not contain the glyphs for 
italics -- especially given that the client has provided a completely separate 
file for Bold. So FM is attempting to apply the tag, but it can't change the 
appearance because the needed characters don't exist.  You might be able to 
redefine the tag to use Obliqued as the angle, and FM will try to fake 
italics by sloping the roman glyphs. But the true solution would be to purchase 
the italic font file required.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
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Applying a character tag to text in FM10

[rebecca officer]

Ask the customer if they have the italic form of the font. They may just have 
forgotten to give it to you - or they may insist you use bold for emphasis too.

If you fake it with Oblique, I think that does carry through to PDF but not 
HTML. Someone else correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Cheers
Rebecca

>>> Stuart Rogers  21/01/14 12:02 >>>
On 2014-Jan-20 5:43 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:



All,
A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files 
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and Arial. 
They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is Regular weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags) and a Bold weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).  I have several 
character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to continue to use. One 
of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag are set to As Is with the 
exception of the angle, which I have set to Italic. 
When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e., 
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag is 
apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower left 
corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis with an 
asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had corrupted the 
tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used simply good old 
Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the text was immediately 
italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an asterisk.
I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source file, 
so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that is 
preventing character tags from being applied as expected. 
Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards,
TVB 



My first guess is that the Regular font set does not contain the glyphs for 
italics -- especially given that the client has provided a completely separate 
file for Bold. So FM is attempting to apply the tag, but it can't change the 
appearance because the needed characters don't exist.  You might be able to 
redefine the tag to use "Obliqued" as the angle, and FM will try to fake 
italics by sloping the roman glyphs. But the true solution would be to purchase 
the italic font file required.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

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Applying a character tag to text in FM10

[Tammy Van Boening]

All,

A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and
Arial. They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is
Regular weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags)
and a Bold weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).
I have several character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to
continue to use. One of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag
are set to As Is with the exception of the angle, which I have set to
Italic. 

When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e.,
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag
is apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower
left corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis
with an asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had
corrupted the tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used
simply good old Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the
text was immediately italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an
asterisk.

I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source
file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that
is preventing character tags from being applied as expected. 

Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards,

TVB 



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Re: Applying a character tag to text in FM10

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2014-Jan-20 5:43 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

Applying a character tag to text in FM10

All,

A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM 
files despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New 
Roman and Arial. Theyhave supplied me with two font sets for this font 
- one is Regular weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are 
non-Heading tags) and a Bold weight (to be used for any paragraph tags 
that are Heading tags).  I have several character formats in my 
catalog that I want to be able to continue to use. One of these tags 
is Emphasis. All properties for the tag are set to As Is with the 
exception of the angle, which I have set to Italic.


When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags 
(i.e., the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary 
font), the tag is apparently not applied. The font angle does not 
change, and in the lower left corner of the page identifying what tags 
are being used, I seeEmphasis with an asterisk in front of it 
(*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had corrupted the tag somehow, so 
I applied the same tag to some text that used simply good old Times 
New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the text was 
immediately italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an asterisk.


I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM 
source file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of 
such fonts that is preventing character tags from being applied as 
expected.


Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards,

TVB




My first guess is that the Regular font set does not contain the glyphs 
for italics -- especially given that the client has provided a 
completely separate file for Bold. So FM is attempting to apply the tag, 
but it can't change the appearance because the needed characters don't 
exist.  You might be able to redefine the tag to use Obliqued as the 
angle, and FM will try to fake italics by sloping the roman glyphs. But 
the true solution would be to purchase the italic font file required.


HTH,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

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RE: Applying a character tag to text in FM10

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thanks all. I was just getting so frustrated having to redo something that I
thought was done, I couldn't take a step back. I was told that the Regular
package included Italic fonts, but upon examination as suggested, it
doesn't. I did try Stuart's suggestion of Oblique and it looks like garbage,
that's for sure as Stuart also warned about.

 

Ok, grumble, grumble, grumble . . . I really wish this client would not be
so stuck on using these fonts.

 

Thanks all,

 

I appreciate the help and understanding from y'all.

 

TVB

 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:04 PM
To: Tammy Van Boening
Cc: FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: Applying a character tag to text in FM10

 

HI Tammy, 

 

Nothing's broken, you just need an italicized version of the font installed
on your system.


-Matt

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On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Tammy Van Boening
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:





All,

A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and
Arial. They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is
Regular weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags)
and a Bold weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).
I have several character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to
continue to use. One of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag
are set to As Is with the exception of the angle, which I have set to
Italic. 

When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e.,
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag
is apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower
left corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis
with an asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had
corrupted the tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used
simply good old Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the
text was immediately italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an
asterisk.

I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source
file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that
is preventing character tags from being applied as expected. 

Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards,

TVB 

 

 

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RE: Applying a character tag to text in FM10

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

I think you need the Italic version of that font - you just have the Regular 
and Bold font files apparently. With old Adobe Type 1 fonts, for example, there 
were multiple separate files for each font set that needed to be available.

For example, my old Helvetica, Helvetica-Black and Helvetica-Narrow fonts 
are these - with oblique, bold and bold-oblique versions. And there are the 
associated files font metric files (AFM, PFM) and font info files (INF) for 
each of these, in sub-directories, for the system to read.

C:\Home\sys\psfdir hv*

Volume in drive C is Disk_C

Volume Serial Number is 5CD9-F6B7

Directory of C:\Home\sys\psf

05/01/1990  07:00 AM42,905 HVBLO___.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM31,808 HVBL.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM38,586 HVBO.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM29,276 HVB_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM28,393 HVK_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM35,815 HVLO.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM27,333 HVL_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,606 HVNBO___.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,572 HVNB.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,073 HVNO.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,037 HVN_.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM38,053 HVO_.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM28,777 HV__.PFB

  13 File(s)454,234 bytes

So, I'd suggest asking the client for the Italic (or Oblique) file for that 
proprietary font. You may also need the Bold-Italic (or Bold-Oblique) version 
files too.

Z

Tammy Van Boening wrote:

?  All,

?  A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files 
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and Arial. 
They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is Regular weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags) and a Bold weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).  I have several 
character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to continue to use. One 
of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag are set to As Is with the 
exception of the angle, which I have set to Italic.

?  When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e., 
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag is 
apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower left 
corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis with an 
asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had corrupted the 
tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used simply good old 
Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the text was immediately 
italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an asterisk.

?  I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source 
file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that is 
preventing character tags from being applied as expected.

?  Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

?  Regards,

?  TVB
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RE: Applying a character tag to text in FM10

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

I also just noticed that some of my older True Type fonts are separate files 
for regular, bold and italic. Here is an example:

C:\Home\sys\fonts\ttf1dir aol*
Volume in drive C is Disk_C
Volume Serial Number is 5CD9-F6B7

Directory of C:\Home\sys\fonts\ttf1

10/11/1992  11:00 PM51,856 AOLIVE.TTF
10/11/1992  11:00 PM53,920 AOLIVEB.TTF
10/11/1992  11:00 PM54,836 AOLIVEI.TTF
   3 File(s)160,612 bytes


From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 3:32 PM
To: 'Tammy Van Boening'; 'FrameUsers List'
Subject: RE: Applying a character tag to text in FM10


I think you need the Italic version of that font - you just have the Regular 
and Bold font files apparently. With old Adobe Type 1 fonts, for example, there 
were multiple separate files for each font set that needed to be available.

For example, my old Helvetica, Helvetica-Black and Helvetica-Narrow fonts 
are these - with oblique, bold and bold-oblique versions. And there are the 
associated files font metric files (AFM, PFM) and font info files (INF) for 
each of these, in sub-directories, for the system to read.

C:\Home\sys\psfdir hv*

Volume in drive C is Disk_C

Volume Serial Number is 5CD9-F6B7

Directory of C:\Home\sys\psf

05/01/1990  07:00 AM42,905 HVBLO___.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM31,808 HVBL.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM38,586 HVBO.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM29,276 HVB_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM28,393 HVK_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM35,815 HVLO.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM27,333 HVL_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,606 HVNBO___.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,572 HVNB.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,073 HVNO.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,037 HVN_.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM38,053 HVO_.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM28,777 HV__.PFB

  13 File(s)454,234 bytes

So, I'd suggest asking the client for the Italic (or Oblique) file for that 
proprietary font. You may also need the Bold-Italic (or Bold-Oblique) version 
files too.

Z

Tammy Van Boening wrote:

?  All,

?  A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files 
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and Arial. 
They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is Regular weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags) and a Bold weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).  I have several 
character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to continue to use. One 
of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag are set to As Is with the 
exception of the angle, which I have set to Italic.

?  When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e., 
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag is 
apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower left 
corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis with an 
asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had corrupted the 
tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used simply good old 
Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the text was immediately 
italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an asterisk.

?  I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source 
file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that is 
preventing character tags from being applied as expected.

?  Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

?  Regards,

?  TVB
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Applying a character tag to text in FM10

[Tammy Van Boening]

All,

A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and
Arial. They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is
Regular weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags)
and a Bold weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).
I have several character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to
continue to use. One of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag
are set to As Is with the exception of the angle, which I have set to
Italic. 

When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e.,
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag
is apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower
left corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis
with an asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had
corrupted the tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used
simply good old Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the
text was immediately italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an
asterisk.

I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source
file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that
is preventing character tags from being applied as expected. 

Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards,

TVB 



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[Stuart Rogers]

On 2014-Jan-20 5:43 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> Applying a character tag to text in FM10
>
> All,
>
> A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM 
> files despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New 
> Roman and Arial. Theyhave supplied me with two font sets for this font 
> - one is Regular weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are 
> non-Heading tags) and a Bold weight (to be used for any paragraph tags 
> that are Heading tags).  I have several character formats in my 
> catalog that I want to be able to continue to use. One of these tags 
> is Emphasis. All properties for the tag are set to As Is with the 
> exception of the angle, which I have set to Italic.
>
> When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags 
> (i.e., the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary 
> font), the tag is apparently not applied. The font angle does not 
> change, and in the lower left corner of the page identifying what tags 
> are being used, I seeEmphasis with an asterisk in front of it 
> (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had corrupted the tag somehow, so 
> I applied the same tag to some text that used simply good old Times 
> New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the text was 
> immediately italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an asterisk.
>
> I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM 
> source file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of 
> such fonts that is preventing character tags from being applied as 
> expected.
>
> Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> TVB
>
>

My first guess is that the Regular font set does not contain the glyphs 
for italics -- especially given that the client has provided a 
completely separate file for Bold. So FM is attempting to apply the tag, 
but it can't change the appearance because the needed characters don't 
exist.  You might be able to redefine the tag to use "Obliqued" as the 
angle, and FM will try to fake italics by sloping the roman glyphs. But 
the true solution would be to purchase the italic font file required.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

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[Tammy Van Boening]

Thanks all. I was just getting so frustrated having to redo something that I
thought was done, I couldn't take a step back. I was told that the Regular
package included Italic fonts, but upon examination as suggested, it
doesn't. I did try Stuart's suggestion of Oblique and it looks like garbage,
that's for sure as Stuart also warned about.



Ok, grumble, grumble, grumble . . . I really wish this client would not be
so stuck on using these fonts.



Thanks all,



I appreciate the help and understanding from y'all.



TVB



From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:04 PM
To: Tammy Van Boening
Cc: FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: Applying a character tag to text in FM10



HI Tammy, 



Nothing's broken, you just need an italicized version of the font installed
on your system.


-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
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On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Tammy Van Boening
 wrote:





All,

A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and
Arial. They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is
Regular weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags)
and a Bold weight (to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).
I have several character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to
continue to use. One of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag
are set to As Is with the exception of the angle, which I have set to
Italic. 

When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e.,
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag
is apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower
left corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis
with an asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had
corrupted the tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used
simply good old Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the
text was immediately italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an
asterisk.

I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source
file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that
is preventing character tags from being applied as expected. 

Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards,

TVB 





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[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

I think you need the Italic version of that font - you just have the Regular 
and Bold font files apparently. With old Adobe Type 1 fonts, for example, there 
were multiple separate files for each "font" set that needed to be available.

For example, my old "Helvetica", "Helvetica-Black" and "Helvetica-Narrow" fonts 
are these - with oblique, bold and bold-oblique versions. And there are the 
associated files font metric files (AFM, PFM) and font info files (INF) for 
each of these, in sub-directories, for the system to read.

C:\Home\sys\psf>dir hv*

Volume in drive C is Disk_C

Volume Serial Number is 5CD9-F6B7

Directory of C:\Home\sys\psf

05/01/1990  07:00 AM42,905 HVBLO___.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM31,808 HVBL.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM38,586 HVBO.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM29,276 HVB_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM28,393 HVK_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM35,815 HVLO.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM27,333 HVL_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,606 HVNBO___.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,572 HVNB.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,073 HVNO.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,037 HVN_.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM38,053 HVO_.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM28,777 HV__.PFB

  13 File(s)454,234 bytes

So, I'd suggest asking the client for the Italic (or Oblique) file for that 
proprietary font. You may also need the Bold-Italic (or Bold-Oblique) version 
files too.

Z

Tammy Van Boening wrote:

?  All,

?  A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files 
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and Arial. 
They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is Regular weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags) and a Bold weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).  I have several 
character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to continue to use. One 
of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag are set to As Is with the 
exception of the angle, which I have set to Italic.

?  When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e., 
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag is 
apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower left 
corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis with an 
asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had corrupted the 
tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used simply good old 
Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the text was immediately 
italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an asterisk.

?  I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source 
file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that is 
preventing character tags from being applied as expected.

?  Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

?  Regards,

?  TVB
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[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

I also just noticed that some of my older True Type fonts are separate files 
for regular, bold and italic. Here is an example:

C:\Home\sys\fonts\ttf1>dir aol*
Volume in drive C is Disk_C
Volume Serial Number is 5CD9-F6B7

Directory of C:\Home\sys\fonts\ttf1

10/11/1992  11:00 PM51,856 AOLIVE.TTF
10/11/1992  11:00 PM53,920 AOLIVEB.TTF
10/11/1992  11:00 PM54,836 AOLIVEI.TTF
   3 File(s)160,612 bytes


From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 3:32 PM
To: 'Tammy Van Boening'; 'FrameUsers List'
Subject: RE: Applying a character tag to text in FM10


I think you need the Italic version of that font - you just have the Regular 
and Bold font files apparently. With old Adobe Type 1 fonts, for example, there 
were multiple separate files for each "font" set that needed to be available.

For example, my old "Helvetica", "Helvetica-Black" and "Helvetica-Narrow" fonts 
are these - with oblique, bold and bold-oblique versions. And there are the 
associated files font metric files (AFM, PFM) and font info files (INF) for 
each of these, in sub-directories, for the system to read.

C:\Home\sys\psf>dir hv*

Volume in drive C is Disk_C

Volume Serial Number is 5CD9-F6B7

Directory of C:\Home\sys\psf

05/01/1990  07:00 AM42,905 HVBLO___.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM31,808 HVBL.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM38,586 HVBO.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM29,276 HVB_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM28,393 HVK_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM35,815 HVLO.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM27,333 HVL_.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,606 HVNBO___.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,572 HVNB.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,073 HVNO.PFB

05/01/1990  07:00 AM38,037 HVN_.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM38,053 HVO_.PFB

05/27/1996  10:22 PM28,777 HV__.PFB

  13 File(s)454,234 bytes

So, I'd suggest asking the client for the Italic (or Oblique) file for that 
proprietary font. You may also need the Bold-Italic (or Bold-Oblique) version 
files too.

Z

Tammy Van Boening wrote:

?  All,

?  A client is insisting on using a proprietary font in the source FM files 
despite my best attempts to keep them vanilla with Times New Roman and Arial. 
They have supplied me with two font sets for this font - one is Regular weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags) and a Bold weight 
(to be used for any paragraph tags that are Heading tags).  I have several 
character formats in my catalog that I want to be able to continue to use. One 
of these tags is Emphasis. All properties for the tag are set to As Is with the 
exception of the angle, which I have set to Italic.

?  When I apply this tag to any paragraph tags that are non-Heading tags (i.e., 
the tags use the regular weight version of this proprietary font), the tag is 
apparently not applied. The font angle does not change, and in the lower left 
corner of the page identifying what tags are being used, I see Emphasis with an 
asterisk in front of it (*Emphasis).  I thought that maybe I had corrupted the 
tag somehow, so I applied the same tag to some text that used simply good old 
Times New Roman font in the same document, and voila, the text was immediately 
italicized and the tag showed Emphasis without an asterisk.

?  I have not really ever had to use proprietary fonts before in a FM source 
file, so I am obviously missing something behind the use of such fonts that is 
preventing character tags from being applied as expected.

?  Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.

?  Regards,

?  TVB
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