Deja Vu?? Was: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0
According to Shlomo Perets' website (http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html) people have reported issues with FM7.x and Save As PDF when using Win98, or tagged PDF, or custom page sizes, or Acrobat 6.x. We seem to be fine with it, but we're not using any of the above. ;-) Cheers, Rebecca >>> "Diane Gaskill" 18/07/06 17:45 >>> During the years before Frame 7.0 was released, there were many, many messages on this list regarding using Save As PDF in FM 6.0. It worked for a few people who happened to have the right printer driver set up but many people complained that they were not getting the results they needed. A certain Adobe employee who sometimes posts on this list said many times, DON'T USE Save As PDF in FM 6.0 because it is badly broken and usually gives undesired results. When FM 7.0 was released, that same employee did announce on this list that Save As PDF works correctly in FM 7.0 and was OK to use. Personally, however, I still print to postscript and then distill. It always works. Diane == -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:29 AM To: Spreadbury, David Cc: framers at omsys.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0 > But, in a nutshell, Save As PDF is problematic in all versions of > FrameMaker. You may, or may not, experience problems. Using Print to > File and then Distilling eliminates all of these problems. I have not had issues since 7.0. I believe it to be finally fixed. But yes, 6.x and earlier was problemmatic and best to print to file. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rebecca.officer at alliedtelesyn.co.nz. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesyn.co.nz Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs.
Deja Vu?? Was: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0
Rebecca Officer wrote: >According to Shlomo Perets' website >(http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html) people have reported issues >with FM7.x and Save As PDF when using Win98, or tagged PDF, or custom >page sizes, or Acrobat 6.x. > >We seem to be fine with it, but we're not using any of the above. ;-) Some additional issues related to "Save as PDF" are listed in "FrameMaker Annoyances" -- under different FM releases, such as: * The Save as PDF function does not report switching of drivers ? output may not match current FrameMaker layout (line breaks, page breaks) or reflect missing fonts. (unless "Adobe PDF" is the default printer driver) * The combination of "Save as PDF" and Tagged PDF may result in some anomalies, such as missing text in shaded table cells. Other issues have been mentioned in the mailing list, see below. However way the PDF is produced, it should be thoroughly tested. Shlomo >Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:14:55 +0200 >To: Martin Polley >From: Shlomo Perets >Subject: Re: Rename PDF, xrefs stop working (more) >Cc: Framers at FrameUsers.com, frame2acrobat at yahoogroups.com, >Kathy.Bowman at saabsystems.com.au, james.brandal at c2i.net > >Martin, > >You wrote: > >>With some of the PDFs that I create, if I rename them, the >>cross-references stop working, giving this error: >> >> The specified file does not exist. >> >>Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Is there a workaround? >>(Other than "don't rename the file"...) > >As I mentioned earlier, some of the older FrameMaker 5.x versions specify >internal links with a file name target, in which case renaming the PDF >causes bad links (even when the PDF is stand-alone, with no links pointing >to it from other PDFs). > >Upon further examination, I was able to reproduce the creation of PDF >links which use a filename even though the link is internal in FrameMaker >7.0, 7.1 and 7.2, but only when "Save as PDF" was used. In the same >tests, the problem was not encountered even once when printing books to a >.ps file and then distilling to PDF. > >Given this FrameMaker bug, we may have yet another reason to stick to the >original PDF file names, yet another reason to print to .ps rather than >Save as PDF, and yet another reason to test PDF links carefully... > > >Shlomo Perets > >MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker >FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat >TimeSavers/Assistants >Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Technical Indexing seminars
Re: Deja Vu?? Was: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0
Rebecca Officer wrote: According to Shlomo Perets' website (http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html) people have reported issues with FM7.x and Save As PDF when using Win98, or tagged PDF, or custom page sizes, or Acrobat 6.x. We seem to be fine with it, but we're not using any of the above. ;-) Some additional issues related to "Save as PDF" are listed in "FrameMaker Annoyances" -- under different FM releases, such as: * The Save as PDF function does not report switching of drivers output may not match current FrameMaker layout (line breaks, page breaks) or reflect missing fonts. (unless "Adobe PDF" is the default printer driver) * The combination of "Save as PDF" and Tagged PDF may result in some anomalies, such as missing text in shaded table cells. Other issues have been mentioned in the mailing list, see below. However way the PDF is produced, it should be thoroughly tested. Shlomo Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:14:55 +0200 To: Martin Polley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Shlomo Perets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Rename PDF, xrefs stop working (more) Cc: Framers@FrameUsers.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin, You wrote: With some of the PDFs that I create, if I rename them, the cross-references stop working, giving this error: The specified file does not exist. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Is there a workaround? (Other than "don't rename the file"...) As I mentioned earlier, some of the older FrameMaker 5.x versions specify internal links with a file name target, in which case renaming the PDF causes bad links (even when the PDF is stand-alone, with no links pointing to it from other PDFs). Upon further examination, I was able to reproduce the creation of PDF links which use a filename even though the link is internal in FrameMaker 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2, but only when "Save as PDF" was used. In the same tests, the problem was not encountered even once when printing books to a .ps file and then distilling to PDF. Given this FrameMaker bug, we may have yet another reason to stick to the original PDF file names, yet another reason to print to .ps rather than Save as PDF, and yet another reason to test PDF links carefully... Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Technical Indexing seminars ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deja Vu?? Was: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0
According to Shlomo Perets' website (http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html) people have reported issues with FM7.x and Save As PDF when using Win98, or tagged PDF, or custom page sizes, or Acrobat 6.x. We seem to be fine with it, but we're not using any of the above. ;-) Cheers, Rebecca >>> "Diane Gaskill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18/07/06 17:45 >>> During the years before Frame 7.0 was released, there were many, many messages on this list regarding using Save As PDF in FM 6.0. It worked for a few people who happened to have the right printer driver set up but many people complained that they were not getting the results they needed. A certain Adobe employee who sometimes posts on this list said many times, DON'T USE Save As PDF in FM 6.0 because it is badly broken and usually gives undesired results. When FM 7.0 was released, that same employee did announce on this list that Save As PDF works correctly in FM 7.0 and was OK to use. Personally, however, I still print to postscript and then distill. It always works. Diane == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:29 AM To: Spreadbury, David Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0 > But, in a nutshell, Save As PDF is problematic in all versions of > FrameMaker. You may, or may not, experience problems. Using Print to > File and then Distilling eliminates all of these problems. I have not had issues since 7.0. I believe it to be finally fixed. But yes, 6.x and earlier was problemmatic and best to print to file. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesyn.co.nz Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Deja Vu?? Was: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0
During the years before Frame 7.0 was released, there were many, many messages on this list regarding using Save As PDF in FM 6.0. It worked for a few people who happened to have the right printer driver set up but many people complained that they were not getting the results they needed. A certain Adobe employee who sometimes posts on this list said many times, DON'T USE Save As PDF in FM 6.0 because it is badly broken and usually gives undesired results. When FM 7.0 was released, that same employee did announce on this list that Save As PDF works correctly in FM 7.0 and was OK to use. Personally, however, I still print to postscript and then distill. It always works. Diane == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:29 AM To: Spreadbury, David Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0 > But, in a nutshell, Save As PDF is problematic in all versions of > FrameMaker. You may, or may not, experience problems. Using Print to > File and then Distilling eliminates all of these problems. I have not had issues since 7.0. I believe it to be finally fixed. But yes, 6.x and earlier was problemmatic and best to print to file. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Deja Vu?? Was: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0
During the years before Frame 7.0 was released, there were many, many messages on this list regarding using Save As PDF in FM 6.0. It worked for a few people who happened to have the right printer driver set up but many people complained that they were not getting the results they needed. A certain Adobe employee who sometimes posts on this list said many times, DON'T USE Save As PDF in FM 6.0 because it is badly broken and usually gives undesired results. When FM 7.0 was released, that same employee did announce on this list that Save As PDF works correctly in FM 7.0 and was OK to use. Personally, however, I still print to postscript and then distill. It always works. Diane == -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:29 AM To: Spreadbury, David Cc: framers at omsys.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0 > But, in a nutshell, Save As PDF is problematic in all versions of > FrameMaker. You may, or may not, experience problems. Using Print to > File and then Distilling eliminates all of these problems. I have not had issues since 7.0. I believe it to be finally fixed. But yes, 6.x and earlier was problemmatic and best to print to file. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___
