RE: Disappearing Character When Printed
Hi Eric, this sounds to me like a Postscript/printer driver issue. Years ago, while working at a digital printing shop, I discovered that certain characters (in a foreign language) would disappear in printing, and often the whole sentence between such characters would also disappear. The issue was the Postscript definitions of the printer driver (at the time it was an industrial HP 5 series printer). I suggest trying to use a different postscript driver for printing both to PDF and to the physical printer. One of the good old standbys that always worked for me was an Agfa postscript driver that is in the native Windows library of printer drivers installed with Windows. Another avenue to explore may be the include fonts settings in the Acrobat/PDF distiller settings - and it is always recommended to print to postscript when creating a PDF, rather than use the PDF Maker or other plugins, which create PDF by a different path than the regular postscript. -- Eli Marcus www.EliMarcus.com blog: http://elisblues.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/elisblues Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, And today? today is a gift, That's why we call it the present. Babatunde Olatunji - Original Message - From: framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:01 Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Framers digest... ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Disappearing Character When Printed
There was a recent Microsoft hotfix for XP that resolved a long-standing missing character issue as well as numerous other printing/PDF problems. I know the URL for the hitfix has been mentioned online and in the Adobe FM forum many times since its release... so I'd google away and/or check the archives. * Also, if you get anything in from Word, it's SOP to safe your FM file as MIF, then open and save that as your FM file in order to remove any odd characters that were imported. If you haven't done that yet, do so... Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:57 AM, eli marcus emi...@013net.net wrote: Hi Eric, this sounds to me like a Postscript/printer driver issue. Years ago, while working at a digital printing shop, I discovered that certain characters (in a foreign language) would disappear in printing, and often the whole sentence between such characters would also disappear. The issue was the Postscript definitions of the printer driver (at the time it was an industrial HP 5 series printer). I suggest trying to use a different postscript driver for printing both to PDF and to the physical printer. One of the good old standbys that always worked for me was an Agfa postscript driver that is in the native Windows library of printer drivers installed with Windows. Another avenue to explore may be the include fonts settings in the Acrobat/PDF distiller settings - and it is always recommended to print to postscript when creating a PDF, rather than use the PDF Maker or other plugins, which create PDF by a different path than the regular postscript. -- Eli Marcus www.EliMarcus.com blog: http://elisblues.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/elisblues Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, And today? today is a gift, That's why we call it the present. Babatunde Olatunji - Original Message - From: framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:01 Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Framers digest... ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Disappearing Character When Printed
For the record, all production of PDF from FrameMaker is currently done via distillation of PostScript into PDF, regardless of whether that is accomplished automatically via the FrameMaker save as PDF function, printing to the Adobe PDF PostScript Printer Driver instance, or manually printing PostScript to FILE: and then invoking the Distiller to convert the PostScript to PDF. In theory, all these methods generate the same PostScript which should yield the same PDF. The difference is that the save as PDF method attempts to fully automate the procedure and simultaneously provide additional non-print functionality via post-processing of the resultant PDF file. It is in the hand-shaking conventions that the save as PDF method sometimes fails; the underlying PostScript is no different than the other methods. There is no PDF Maker for FrameMaker nor are there any other paths that produce PDF from FrameMaker other than via regular PostScript (or irregular PostScript whatever that might mean). In Windows, there is only one PostScript driver. A PostScript driver for some ancient Agfa printer is the same driver used for a brand new Xerox Phaser 7500 printer which is the exact same driver used by the Adobe PDF PostScript Printer Driver instance. The only DIFFERENCE between these driver instances is in the PPD file that table drives the driver in terms of device-dependent PostScript used for paper size and tray selection as well as other printer- specific features and operations. For generation of PostScript for proper creation of PDF files via distillation, one should never use anything other than the PPD file associated with the Adobe PDF PostScript Printer Driver instance. There is an option in the Adobe PDF Settings pane of both the Printing Preferences and the Printing Defaults panes of the Adobe PDF PostScript Printer Driver instance Printer Properties labeled Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. In general, the most efficient and reliable PDF will be generated if that option is enabled. In very rare instances, that option might need to be disabled such as when using FrameMaker documents that have EPS files with embedded fonts. But the need to switch that option off or on would not result in the symptom originally described. Note that if you need to apply the Windows fix for Windows XP or Vista (not necessary for Windows 7) as suggested by others responding to this issue, go to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952909/en-us for the fix. - Dov -Original Message- From: eli marcus Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:57 PM Subject: RE: Disappearing Character When Printed Hi Eric, this sounds to me like a Postscript/printer driver issue. Years ago, while working at a digital printing shop, I discovered that certain characters (in a foreign language) would disappear in printing, and often the whole sentence between such characters would also disappear. The issue was the Postscript definitions of the printer driver (at the time it was an industrial HP 5 series printer). I suggest trying to use a different postscript driver for printing both to PDF and to the physical printer. One of the good old standbys that always worked for me was an Agfa postscript driver that is in the native Windows library of printer drivers installed with Windows. Another avenue to explore may be the include fonts settings in the Acrobat/PDF distiller settings - and it is always recommended to print to postscript when creating a PDF, rather than use the PDF Maker or other plugins, which create PDF by a different path than the regular postscript. -- Eli Marcus www.EliMarcus.com blog: http://elisblues.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/elisblues ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Disappearing Character When Printed
Hi Eric, this sounds to me like a Postscript/printer driver issue. Years ago, while working at a digital printing shop, I discovered that certain characters (in a foreign language) would disappear in printing, and often the whole sentence between such characters would also disappear. The issue was the Postscript definitions of the printer driver (at the time it was an industrial HP 5 series printer). I suggest trying to use a different postscript driver for printing both to PDF and to the physical printer. One of the good old standbys that always worked for me was an Agfa postscript driver that is in the native Windows library of printer drivers installed with Windows. Another avenue to explore may be the "include fonts" settings in the Acrobat/PDF distiller settings - and it is always recommended to print to postscript when creating a PDF, rather than use the PDF Maker or other plugins, which create PDF by a different path than the regular postscript. -- Eli Marcus www.EliMarcus.com blog: http://elisblues.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/elisblues "Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, And today? today is a gift, That's why we call it the present." Babatunde Olatunji - Original Message - From: framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:01 Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Send Framers mailing list submissions to > framers at lists.frameusers.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > framers-request at lists.frameusers.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > framers-owner at lists.frameusers.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Framers digest..." >
Disappearing Character When Printed
There was a recent Microsoft hotfix for XP that resolved a long-standing missing character issue as well as numerous other printing/PDF problems. I know the URL for the hitfix has been mentioned online and in the Adobe FM forum many times since its release... so I'd google away and/or check the archives. * Also, if you get anything in from Word, it's SOP to safe your FM file as MIF, then open and save that as your FM file in order to remove any odd characters that were imported. If you haven't done that yet, do so... Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:57 AM, eli marcus wrote: > Hi Eric, > this sounds to me like a Postscript/printer driver issue. > Years ago, while working at a digital printing shop, I discovered that > certain characters (in a foreign language) would disappear in printing, and > often the whole sentence between such characters would also disappear. > The issue was the Postscript definitions of the printer driver (at the time > it was an industrial HP 5 series printer). > > I suggest trying to use a different postscript driver for printing both to > PDF and to the physical printer. > One of the good old standbys that always worked for me was an Agfa > postscript driver that is in the native Windows library of printer drivers > installed with Windows. > > Another avenue to explore may be the "include fonts" settings in the > Acrobat/PDF distiller settings - and it is always recommended to print to > postscript when creating a PDF, rather than use the PDF Maker or other > plugins, which create PDF by a different path than the regular postscript. > > > > -- > Eli Marcus > www.EliMarcus.com > blog: http://elisblues.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/elisblues > > "Yesterday is history, > Tomorrow is a mystery, > And today? today is a gift, > That's why we call it the present." > Babatunde Olatunji > > > - Original Message - > From: framers-request at lists.frameusers.com > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:01 > Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > > Send Framers mailing list submissions to > > framers at lists.frameusers.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > framers-request at lists.frameusers.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > framers-owner at lists.frameusers.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Framers digest..." > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Disappearing Character When Printed
For the record, all production of PDF from FrameMaker is currently done via distillation of PostScript into PDF, regardless of whether that is accomplished automatically via the FrameMaker "save as PDF" function, printing to the "Adobe PDF PostScript Printer Driver" instance, or manually printing PostScript to "FILE:" and then invoking the Distiller to convert the PostScript to PDF. In theory, all these methods generate the same PostScript which should yield the same PDF. The difference is that the "save as PDF" method attempts to fully automate the procedure and simultaneously provide additional non-print functionality via post-processing of the resultant PDF file. It is in the hand-shaking conventions that the "save as PDF" method sometimes fails; the underlying PostScript is no different than the other methods. There is no "PDF Maker" for FrameMaker nor are there any other paths that produce PDF from FrameMaker other than via "regular PostScript" (or "irregular PostScript" whatever that might mean). In Windows, there is only one "PostScript driver." A PostScript driver for some ancient Agfa printer is the same driver used for a brand new Xerox Phaser 7500 printer which is the exact same driver used by the Adobe PDF PostScript Printer Driver instance. The only DIFFERENCE between these driver "instances" is in the PPD file that "table drives" the driver in terms of device-dependent PostScript used for paper size and tray selection as well as other printer- specific features and operations. For generation of PostScript for proper creation of PDF files via distillation, one should never use anything other than the PPD file associated with the Adobe PDF PostScript Printer Driver instance. There is an option in the "Adobe PDF Settings" pane of both the "Printing Preferences" and the "Printing Defaults" panes of the Adobe PDF PostScript Printer Driver instance "Printer Properties" labeled "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts." In general, the most efficient and reliable PDF will be generated if that option is enabled. In very rare instances, that option might need to be disabled such as when using FrameMaker documents that have EPS files with embedded fonts. But the need to switch that option off or on would not result in the symptom originally described. Note that if you need to apply the Windows fix for Windows XP or Vista (not necessary for Windows 7) as suggested by others responding to this issue, go to <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952909/en-us> for the fix. - Dov > -Original Message- > From: eli marcus > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:57 PM > Subject: RE: Disappearing Character When Printed > > Hi Eric, > this sounds to me like a Postscript/printer driver issue. > Years ago, while working at a digital printing shop, I discovered that > certain characters (in a > foreign language) would disappear in printing, and often the whole sentence > between such characters > would also disappear. > The issue was the Postscript definitions of the printer driver (at the time > it was an industrial HP 5 > series printer). > > I suggest trying to use a different postscript driver for printing both to > PDF and to the physical > printer. > One of the good old standbys that always worked for me was an Agfa postscript > driver that is in the > native Windows library of printer drivers installed with Windows. > > Another avenue to explore may be the "include fonts" settings in the > Acrobat/PDF distiller settings - > and it is always recommended to print to postscript when creating a PDF, > rather than use the PDF Maker > or other plugins, which create PDF by a different path than the regular > postscript. > > > > -- > Eli Marcus > www.EliMarcus.com > blog: http://elisblues.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/elisblues
Disappearing Character When Printed
Hello. I have a tiny problem that is driving me nuts. I received a Word file and copy and pasted the text into FrameMaker (6.0p405 on Win XP) as text. Everything was fine until I went to print the resulting PDF (Acrobat Pro 9.1.0) and discovered that one character in the whole document was not printing (I tried 3 different HP printers), but it was visible in both the Frame and PDF files. When I copy and paste from the PDF into a text editor, that character shows. I've retyped the text, and because of the recent discussion about a character causing issues with spell check, I tried the save as MIF route to no affect. I've even retyped the text in MIF, but still no change. I worked around the problem (we needed to get it published asap) by applying a character tag to the character using a similar font to our default of Times, but I'd still like to get this resolved and not rely on the work around. Here's the MIF, in case anyone is interested, and, of course, any help is greatly appreciated. The offending character is the A in Although. I've included the line above it and some text following the word. Para Unique 403755 PgfTag `Head1First' ParaLine TextRectID 191 String `Application and Settings' # end of ParaLine # end of Para Para Unique 403759 PgfTag `BodyTxtFirst' ParaLine TextRectID 191 String `Although the ' Variable VariableName `Relay Name' Unique 403757 # end of Variable String ` can be used with battery voltages ranging from 24' Char HardSpace String `Vdc to ' # end of ParaLine * Eric Isaacson Product Literature Manager Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Disappearing Character When Printed
Hello. I have a tiny problem that is driving me nuts. I received a Word file and copy and pasted the text into FrameMaker (6.0p405 on Win XP) as text. Everything was fine until I went to print the resulting PDF (Acrobat Pro 9.1.0) and discovered that one character in the whole document was not printing (I tried 3 different HP printers), but it was visible in both the Frame and PDF files. When I copy and paste from the PDF into a text editor, that character shows. I've retyped the text, and because of the recent discussion about a character causing issues with spell check, I tried the save as MIF route to no affect. I've even retyped the text in MIF, but still no change. I worked around the problem (we needed to get it published asap) by applying a character tag to the character using a similar font to our default of Times, but I'd still like to get this resolved and not rely on the work around. Here's the MIF, in case anyone is interested, and, of course, any help is greatly appreciated. The offending character is the A in "Although". I've included the line above it and some text following the word. > # end of ParaLine > # end of Para > # end of Variable > # end of ParaLine * Eric Isaacson Product Literature Manager Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories, Inc.
