Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
There's no doubt something I'm missing here, but for the life of me I
don't know what it might be.

I have a document with one text flow (A) that has been defined with
side-heads, and the side-heads are enabled.
I have paragraph tags that are defined as Across all columns and side-heads.

When I update one of these paragraph tags, I get a warning:

  You applied a side-head paragraph format to a paragraph in a
flow that does not have room for side heads.
  For the main flow of the document, use the FormatPage
Layout Column Layout command to turn on room for side heads.

Using Clean Import to reimport the Master Pages with remove
overrides enabled has not fixed the problem.
Washing through MIF has also not worked.

Ideas?

Specs:

FM 8.277
Windows XP Pro SP3
(More plugins than you can shake a stick at, but they've been
installed for almost a year and this only started happening
yesterday.)

Dell computer
2.40 GHz, Intel 2 Quad CPU
3.25 GB RAM

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Re: Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Have you had a look at all your Master Pages? There might be one that
you are not using but is assigned to text flow (A).

Bodvar


2009/5/22 Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com:
 There's no doubt something I'm missing here, but for the life of me I
 don't know what it might be.

 I have a document with one text flow (A) that has been defined with
 side-heads, and the side-heads are enabled.
 I have paragraph tags that are defined as Across all columns and side-heads.

 When I update one of these paragraph tags, I get a warning:

          You applied a side-head paragraph format to a paragraph in a
 flow that does not have room for side heads.
          For the main flow of the document, use the FormatPage
 Layout Column Layout command to turn on room for side heads.

 Using Clean Import to reimport the Master Pages with remove
 overrides enabled has not fixed the problem.
 Washing through MIF has also not worked.

 Ideas?

 Specs:

 FM 8.277
 Windows XP Pro SP3
 (More plugins than you can shake a stick at, but they've been
 installed for almost a year and this only started happening
 yesterday.)

 Dell computer
 2.40 GHz, Intel 2 Quad CPU
 3.25 GB RAM

 (Here's hoping the US holiday weekend hasn't seen EVERYONE take the day off!)
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Re: [Free Framers] Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
Follow-up based on some off-list responses (thanks, guys).

I obviously did not make clear that the Master Page is where I defined
the side head, and it is indeed enabled. The document was created from
a template containing this master page, so both its master and body
pages have side heads.

This is not affecting my text in any way (which is to say, it's doing
what I want, which is starting the heading in the side-head area and
the text in the text area), but the message is damned annoying since
I'm reworking the template to take advantage of the many things I
learned during my two recent webinars with Shlomo.

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's no doubt something I'm missing here, but for the life of me I
 don't know what it might be.

 I have a document with one text flow (A) that has been defined with
 side-heads, and the side-heads are enabled.
 I have paragraph tags that are defined as Across all columns and side-heads.

 When I update one of these paragraph tags, I get a warning:

          You applied a side-head paragraph format to a paragraph in a
 flow that does not have room for side heads.
          For the main flow of the document, use the FormatPage
 Layout Column Layout command to turn on room for side heads.

 Using Clean Import to reimport the Master Pages with remove
 overrides enabled has not fixed the problem.
 Washing through MIF has also not worked.

 Ideas?

 Specs:

 FM 8.277
 Windows XP Pro SP3
 (More plugins than you can shake a stick at, but they've been
 installed for almost a year and this only started happening
 yesterday.)

 Dell computer
 2.40 GHz, Intel 2 Quad CPU
 3.25 GB RAM

 (Here's hoping the US holiday weekend hasn't seen EVERYONE take the day off!)
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Re: Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
I get it whenever I update a paragraph format with the property
Across all columns and side heads turned on.

Both Master Pages have side-heads turned on.

I am currently looking at a text inset file that has some odd things
going on with the frames on the body page not matching the frames on
the master, although both DO have side heads on. *sigh*


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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
 It isn't clear whether you get the message when you change one
 particular para format, or any one para format. If it's one particular
 para format, I'd look for paragraphs of that type that may contain an
 override and remove it...

 If it's all para tags, I'd suspect an issue with one or more pages,
 and I'd check, in no particular order:
  * The properties of the text containers on the master pages, to make
 sure that all of them do, in fact, have SideHead space turned on.
  * There aren't any stray text containers that were inadvertently
 added to either the master or one body page.
  * Create a new document from your empty template and copy-and-paste
 the content from the problem document into it.

 Art

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Re: [Free Framers] Re: Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Bernd Meissner
be...@meissner-dokuteam.de wrote:

 Lin Sims wrote:

 I get it whenever I update a paragraph format with the property
 Across all columns and side heads turned on.

 Both Master Pages have side-heads turned on.


 Lin,

 there's still a difference between Master Pages having the side-heads turned
 on and the Page Layout  Column Layout having this feature turned on. So if
 you're using a layout that allows being globally set by the column layout
 parameters, just open the column layout and enable sideheads there. THEN the
 document knows what to do with corresponding paragraph formats.

The body page layout does indeed have side heads enabled. The document
was created from a template that was set up (both master  body pages)
with side heads defined and enabled.

The flow names are correct.

There doesn't appear to be any stray text or graphic frames on any of
the document's master or body pages.

Fixing the text inset (where I had pages with two flows overlaying
each other) also didn't help.


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SOLVED! Re: Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
I had my heading paragraph tags on a reference page for easy global
updating of JUST the heading tags.

That reference page flow did NOT have side heads. Now it does.

No more message.

Sheesh.

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Bernd Meissner
 be...@meissner-dokuteam.de wrote:

 Lin Sims wrote:

 I get it whenever I update a paragraph format with the property
 Across all columns and side heads turned on.

 Both Master Pages have side-heads turned on.

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Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
There's no doubt something I'm missing here, but for the life of me I
don't know what it might be.

I have a document with one text flow (A) that has been defined with
side-heads, and the side-heads are enabled.
I have paragraph tags that are defined as "Across all columns and side-heads".

When I update one of these paragraph tags, I get a warning:

  You applied a side-head paragraph format to a paragraph in a
flow that does not have room for side heads.
  For the main flow of the document, use the Format>Page
Layout> Column Layout command to turn on room for side heads.

Using Clean Import to reimport the Master Pages with "remove
overrides" enabled has not fixed the problem.
Washing through MIF has also not worked.

Ideas?

Specs:

FM 8.277
Windows XP Pro SP3
(More plugins than you can shake a stick at, but they've been
installed for almost a year and this only started happening
yesterday.)

Dell computer
2.40 GHz, Intel 2 Quad CPU
3.25 GB RAM

(Here's hoping the US holiday weekend hasn't seen EVERYONE take the day off!)
-- 
Lin Sims


Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Have you had a look at all your Master Pages? There might be one that
you are not using but is assigned to text flow (A).

Bodvar


2009/5/22 Lin Sims :
> There's no doubt something I'm missing here, but for the life of me I
> don't know what it might be.
>
> I have a document with one text flow (A) that has been defined with
> side-heads, and the side-heads are enabled.
> I have paragraph tags that are defined as "Across all columns and side-heads".
>
> When I update one of these paragraph tags, I get a warning:
>
> ? ? ? ? ?You applied a side-head paragraph format to a paragraph in a
> flow that does not have room for side heads.
> ? ? ? ? ?For the main flow of the document, use the Format>Page
> Layout> Column Layout command to turn on room for side heads.
>
> Using Clean Import to reimport the Master Pages with "remove
> overrides" enabled has not fixed the problem.
> Washing through MIF has also not worked.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Specs:
>
> FM 8.277
> Windows XP Pro SP3
> (More plugins than you can shake a stick at, but they've been
> installed for almost a year and this only started happening
> yesterday.)
>
> Dell computer
> 2.40 GHz, Intel 2 Quad CPU
> 3.25 GB RAM
>
> (Here's hoping the US holiday weekend hasn't seen EVERYONE take the day off!)
> --
> Lin Sims
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Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Art Campbell
It isn't clear whether you get the message when you change one
particular para format, or any one para format. If it's one particular
para format, I'd look for paragraphs of that type that may contain an
override and remove it...

If it's all para tags, I'd suspect an issue with one or more pages,
and I'd check, in no particular order:
 * The properties of the text containers on the master pages, to make
sure that all of them do, in fact, have SideHead space turned on.
 * There aren't any stray text containers that were inadvertently
added to either the master or one body page.
 * Create a new document from your empty template and copy-and-paste
the content from the problem document into it.

Art

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Lin Sims  wrote:
> There's no doubt something I'm missing here, but for the life of me I
> don't know what it might be.
>
> I have a document with one text flow (A) that has been defined with
> side-heads, and the side-heads are enabled.
> I have paragraph tags that are defined as "Across all columns and side-heads".
>
> When I update one of these paragraph tags, I get a warning:
>
> ? ? ? ? ?You applied a side-head paragraph format to a paragraph in a
> flow that does not have room for side heads.
> ? ? ? ? ?For the main flow of the document, use the Format>Page
> Layout> Column Layout command to turn on room for side heads.
>
> Using Clean Import to reimport the Master Pages with "remove
> overrides" enabled has not fixed the problem.
> Washing through MIF has also not worked.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Specs:
>
> FM 8.277
> Windows XP Pro SP3
> (More plugins than you can shake a stick at, but they've been
> installed for almost a year and this only started happening
> yesterday.)
>
> Dell computer
> 2.40 GHz, Intel 2 Quad CPU
> 3.25 GB RAM
>
> (Here's hoping the US holiday weekend hasn't seen EVERYONE take the day off!)
> --
> Lin Sims
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[Free Framers] Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
Follow-up based on some off-list responses (thanks, guys).

I obviously did not make clear that the Master Page is where I defined
the side head, and it is indeed enabled. The document was created from
a template containing this master page, so both its master and body
pages have side heads.

This is not affecting my text in any way (which is to say, it's doing
what I want, which is starting the heading in the side-head area and
the text in the text area), but the message is damned annoying since
I'm reworking the template to take advantage of the many things I
learned during my two recent webinars with Shlomo.

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> There's no doubt something I'm missing here, but for the life of me I
> don't know what it might be.
>
> I have a document with one text flow (A) that has been defined with
> side-heads, and the side-heads are enabled.
> I have paragraph tags that are defined as "Across all columns and side-heads".
>
> When I update one of these paragraph tags, I get a warning:
>
> ? ? ? ? ?You applied a side-head paragraph format to a paragraph in a
> flow that does not have room for side heads.
> ? ? ? ? ?For the main flow of the document, use the Format>Page
> Layout> Column Layout command to turn on room for side heads.
>
> Using Clean Import to reimport the Master Pages with "remove
> overrides" enabled has not fixed the problem.
> Washing through MIF has also not worked.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Specs:
>
> FM 8.277
> Windows XP Pro SP3
> (More plugins than you can shake a stick at, but they've been
> installed for almost a year and this only started happening
> yesterday.)
>
> Dell computer
> 2.40 GHz, Intel 2 Quad CPU
> 3.25 GB RAM
>
> (Here's hoping the US holiday weekend hasn't seen EVERYONE take the day off!)
> --
> Lin Sims


Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
I get it whenever I update a paragraph format with the property
"Across all columns and side heads" turned on.

Both Master Pages have side-heads turned on.

I am currently looking at a text inset file that has some odd things
going on with the frames on the body page not matching the frames on
the master, although both DO have side heads on. *sigh*


-- 
Lin Sims

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> It isn't clear whether you get the message when you change one
> particular para format, or any one para format. If it's one particular
> para format, I'd look for paragraphs of that type that may contain an
> override and remove it...
>
> If it's all para tags, I'd suspect an issue with one or more pages,
> and I'd check, in no particular order:
> ?* The properties of the text containers on the master pages, to make
> sure that all of them do, in fact, have SideHead space turned on.
> ?* There aren't any stray text containers that were inadvertently
> added to either the master or one body page.
> ?* Create a new document from your empty template and copy-and-paste
> the content from the problem document into it.
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com


[Free Framers] Re: Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Bernd Meissner
 wrote:

> Lin Sims wrote:
>>
>> I get it whenever I update a paragraph format with the property
>> "Across all columns and side heads" turned on.
>>
>> Both Master Pages have side-heads turned on.
>
>
> Lin,
>
> there's still a difference between Master Pages having the side-heads turned
> on and the Page Layout > Column Layout having this feature turned on. So if
> you're using a layout that allows being globally set by the column layout
> parameters, just open the column layout and enable sideheads there. THEN the
> document knows what to do with corresponding paragraph formats.

The body page layout does indeed have side heads enabled. The document
was created from a template that was set up (both master & body pages)
with side heads defined and enabled.

The flow names are correct.

There doesn't appear to be any stray text or graphic frames on any of
the document's master or body pages.

Fixing the text inset (where I had pages with two flows overlaying
each other) also didn't help.


> Regards,
> Bernd
> --
> 
> mei?ner > dokuteam
> Bachgasse 1a
> D-86438 Kissing
> Tel: 08233/73834-0
>
> Inh. Bernd Mei?ner
> USt-Id: DE158289104
> http://www.meissner-dokuteam.de
> 
>



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Lin Sims


SOLVED! Re: Error when updating Side-head tag in flow WITH side-heads

2009-05-22 Thread Lin Sims
I had my heading paragraph tags on a reference page for easy global
updating of JUST the heading tags.

That reference page flow did NOT have side heads. Now it does.

No more message.

Sheesh.

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Bernd Meissner
>  wrote:
>
>> Lin Sims wrote:
>>>
>>> I get it whenever I update a paragraph format with the property
>>> "Across all columns and side heads" turned on.
>>>
>>> Both Master Pages have side-heads turned on.
>>