Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
Hi Kristy, Another couple of interesting pointers if it happens again: 1. Create a MIF and search for the font name in there. Sometimes it's in the reference pages, sometimes in the master pages and sometimes (argh) it's just *off* the page. In the MIF you can search for the font and basically trace your way up the 'tree' of objects to try and find the right location. Sometimes it's pretty creative in hiding and showing info. I've found stuff that is located just off the visible part of the reference page. Try it: Create a new, portrait, blank document and view the reference page. In the top right margin of the first reference page place a text object using the "A" tool. (For purists, that's the "Draw a Text Line" tool). Type your initials or something similar. Then select Format > Page Layout > Page Size and make it 6 inches wide. The text is 'hidden' off the page, but still there. 2. Insert a table. One of every type you have and even if they have no title showing, set them up (via the designer) to display a title. In some cases I have found tables that have titles "remembered" and when displayed they put in a TableTitle with an old and unused format. The joy of trying to remove a font is that it can be buried in a lot of creative ways. Most of those are unintended and that may be the most painful of them all. Anyway, glad it's resolved, but I wanted to pitch in with a few additional ideas in case you (or others) run into this down the road. Bernard Bernard Aschwanden President Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kristy Nolan Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:41 AM To: Lin Sims Cc: Framer's List Subject: RE: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used Thanks! I had checked the Master pages, but had forgotten about the Reference pages. Such a simple answer to an aggravating problem! Kristy -Original Message- From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM To: Kristy Nolan Cc: Framer's List Subject: Re: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan wrote: > OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple > messages of a certain font not being available so another is > substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces > that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I > went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of > errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked > for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text > within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, but not all. > > So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are > referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as bernard at publishingsmarter.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernard%40publishingsmar ter.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
Hi Kristy, Another couple of interesting pointers if it happens again: 1. Create a MIF and search for the font name in there. Sometimes it's in the reference pages, sometimes in the master pages and sometimes (argh) it's just *off* the page. In the MIF you can search for the font and basically trace your way up the 'tree' of objects to try and find the right location. Sometimes it's pretty creative in hiding and showing info. I've found stuff that is located just off the visible part of the reference page. Try it: Create a new, portrait, blank document and view the reference page. In the top right margin of the first reference page place a text object using the "A" tool. (For purists, that's the "Draw a Text Line" tool). Type your initials or something similar. Then select Format > Page Layout > Page Size and make it 6 inches wide. The text is 'hidden' off the page, but still there. 2. Insert a table. One of every type you have and even if they have no title showing, set them up (via the designer) to display a title. In some cases I have found tables that have titles "remembered" and when displayed they put in a TableTitle with an old and unused format. The joy of trying to remove a font is that it can be buried in a lot of creative ways. Most of those are unintended and that may be the most painful of them all. Anyway, glad it's resolved, but I wanted to pitch in with a few additional ideas in case you (or others) run into this down the road. Bernard Bernard Aschwanden President Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristy Nolan Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:41 AM To: Lin Sims Cc: Framer's List Subject: RE: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used Thanks! I had checked the Master pages, but had forgotten about the Reference pages. Such a simple answer to an aggravating problem! Kristy -Original Message- From: Lin Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM To: Kristy Nolan Cc: Framer's List Subject: Re: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple > messages of a certain font not being available so another is > substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces > that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I > went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of > errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked > for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text > within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, but not all. > > So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are > referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernard%40publishingsmar ter.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
Don't forget formats that are not saved in the catalogs, these may particularly occur in saved table formats, or as captions for objects on the reference pages. One of the most insidious and difficult to find cases in an empty text line object (created via the "A" drawing tool on the graphics palette), as these are essentially invisible. Try clicking in the margin and "select all on page" (on the edit menu, or simply control-a in Windows). Also, if there are images in the document/template, they may contain embedded fonts and trigger the error message. If you really don't want these, be sure the preference to remember missing fonts is off before you open the file, open it and save, which will let FrameMaker make its substitution (as seen in the FM console window) for the unavailable font permanent. On Friday, October 24, 2008, Lin Sims wrote: | On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan | wrote: | | > OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple | > messages of a certain font not being available so another is | > substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces | > that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So | > I went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of | > errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked | > for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text | > within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, | > but not all. | > | > So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts | > are referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? | | Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? | | -- | Lin Sims - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com ---
Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
The other simple answer is to set your Preferences so that Remember Missing Fonts is turned off. Then open and save the files. Turn the pref back on if necessary. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Kristy Nolan wrote: > Thanks! I had checked the Master pages, but had forgotten about the > Reference pages. Such a simple answer to an aggravating problem! > Kristy > > -Original Message- > From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims.ml at gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM > To: Kristy Nolan > Cc: Framer's List > Subject: Re: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan > wrote: > >> OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple >> messages of a certain font not being available so another is >> substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces >> that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I >> went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of >> errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked >> for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text >> within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, > but not all. >> >> So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are > >> referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? > > Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan wrote: > OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple > messages of a certain font not being available so another is > substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces that > were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I went > back to the template. I still have seven of these types of errors. I > have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked for any > overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text within said > boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, but not all. > > So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are > referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? -- Lin Sims
Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
Thanks! I had checked the Master pages, but had forgotten about the Reference pages. Such a simple answer to an aggravating problem! Kristy -Original Message- From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM To: Kristy Nolan Cc: Framer's List Subject: Re: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan wrote: > OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple > messages of a certain font not being available so another is > substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces > that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I > went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of > errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked > for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text > within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, but not all. > > So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are > referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? -- Lin Sims
Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple messages of a certain font not being available so another is substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, but not all. So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? Thanks! Kristy Kristy Nolan Lead Publications Specialist Ground Ops Publications DAL-3TR Southwest Airlines 8008 Cedar Springs Rd. Dallas, TX 75230 214-792-2472
RE: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
Don't forget formats that are not saved in the catalogs, these may particularly occur in saved table formats, or as captions for objects on the reference pages. One of the most insidious and difficult to find cases in an empty text line object (created via the "A" drawing tool on the graphics palette), as these are essentially invisible. Try clicking in the margin and "select all on page" (on the edit menu, or simply control-a in Windows). Also, if there are images in the document/template, they may contain embedded fonts and trigger the error message. If you really don't want these, be sure the preference to remember missing fonts is off before you open the file, open it and save, which will let FrameMaker make its substitution (as seen in the FM console window) for the unavailable font permanent. On Friday, October 24, 2008, Lin Sims wrote: | On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wrote: | | > OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple | > messages of a certain font not being available so another is | > substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces | > that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So | > I went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of | > errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked | > for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text | > within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, | > but not all. | > | > So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts | > are referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? | | Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? | | -- | Lin Sims - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
The other simple answer is to set your Preferences so that Remember Missing Fonts is turned off. Then open and save the files. Turn the pref back on if necessary. Art Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Kristy Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks! I had checked the Master pages, but had forgotten about the > Reference pages. Such a simple answer to an aggravating problem! > Kristy > > -Original Message- > From: Lin Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM > To: Kristy Nolan > Cc: Framer's List > Subject: Re: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple >> messages of a certain font not being available so another is >> substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces >> that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I >> went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of >> errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked >> for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text >> within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, > but not all. >> >> So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are > >> referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? > > Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
Thanks! I had checked the Master pages, but had forgotten about the Reference pages. Such a simple answer to an aggravating problem! Kristy -Original Message- From: Lin Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM To: Kristy Nolan Cc: Framer's List Subject: Re: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple > messages of a certain font not being available so another is > substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces > that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I > went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of > errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked > for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text > within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, but not all. > > So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are > referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Kristy Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple > messages of a certain font not being available so another is > substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces that > were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I went > back to the template. I still have seven of these types of errors. I > have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked for any > overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text within said > boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, but not all. > > So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are > referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? Did you check the Master and Reference pages, too? -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Fonts Not Available That Aren't Used
OK - I give. I am trying to clean up some files that give multiple messages of a certain font not being available so another is substituted. Managed to get rid of some just by cleaning up pieces that were brought in from other sources, but can't find others. So I went back to the template. I still have seven of these types of errors. I have triple-checked the paragraph formats. I have checked for any overrides within the text boxes that are set up (but no text within said boxes). I found a few that were in the character palette, but not all. So my question is, how can I find out where these particular fonts are referenced when there isn't any text for it to be used on? Thanks! Kristy Kristy Nolan Lead Publications Specialist Ground Ops Publications DAL-3TR Southwest Airlines 8008 Cedar Springs Rd. Dallas, TX 75230 214-792-2472 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
