Footnote problem--long footnotes

2007-10-18 Thread Klaus Daube
On 17 Oct 2007 at 12:59, Tina Ricks wrote:

> Has anyone seen this? Any ideas about how to deal with long footnotes in
> Frame other than go back to the author and tell him to rewrite?

Well, I think the author will insist... So I would try a quirk, because the 
whole text seems to be a quirk anyhow:

- Put the text of the extra long footnote aside
- At the page place only an introductory part of this long footnote
  with a cross reference to the full text:

127)Hecate est Iovis et Latonae filia, soror Apollinis. 
Est tricopor et triceps, magicarum artium magistra ac
fascinationum praeses, cinctra latrantium canum turma.
(see complete footnote at page 312).

- Place this awful footnote in an appendix, where you probably have
  other strange things also.

Klaus Daube

Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
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Re: Footnote problem--long footnotes

2007-10-18 Thread Klaus Daube
On 17 Oct 2007 at 12:59, Tina Ricks wrote:

> Has anyone seen this? Any ideas about how to deal with long footnotes in
> Frame other than go back to the author and tell him to rewrite?

Well, I think the author will insist... So I would try a quirk, because the 
whole text seems to be a quirk anyhow:

- Put the text of the extra long footnote aside
- At the page place only an introductory part of this long footnote
  with a cross reference to the full text:

127)Hecate est Iovis et Latonae filia, soror Apollinis. 
Est tricopor et triceps, magicarum artium magistra ac
fascinationum praeses, cinctra latrantium canum turma.
(see complete footnote at page 312).

- Place this awful footnote in an appendix, where you probably have
  other strange things also.

Klaus Daube

Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich
Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Web: www.daube.ch/

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Footnote problem--long footnotes

2007-10-17 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tina,

Footnote problems like you are experiencing is a known issue at least since 
FrameMaker 4, possibly earlier.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

> Hi all,
>
> I'm laying out a manuscript in Frame 8 that is packed full of detailed
> footnotes. This author is fond of them, and one footnote in particular 
> spans
> multiple pages. Word can allow footnotes to span pages. So far, it appears
> that Frame's footnotes can't span pages.
>
> I can't get into the merits of writing in long footnotes (whole 'nother
> discussion), I'm stuck with them, and I didn't write them. When I get a
> footnote that is longer than one page, even moving the maximum height as
> high as possible (Format > Document > Footnote Properties > Maximum Height
> Per Column), Frame goes into Footnote Freefall. The extra-long footnote
> disappears, and all the other footnotes seem to lose their minds in the
> process. they go onto one page per footnote at the end of the document.
> Meaning they leave the bottoms of the pages throughout and go to the end,
> one footnote per page, thus adding about 15-20 extra pages to the end of 
> my
> document, blank except for one footnote at the bottom of each. If I take 
> out
> the now disappeared long footnote (by deleting the footnote reference in 
> the
> text), all the other footnotes go back where they belong.
>
> Has anyone seen this? Any ideas about how to deal with long footnotes in
> Frame other than go back to the author and tell him to rewrite?
>
> Tina
>
> Tina Ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net
>
> Editor
>
> Trial Guides, LLC
>
> 503-531-3233




Re: Footnote problem--long footnotes

2007-10-17 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Tina,

Footnote problems like you are experiencing is a known issue at least since 
FrameMaker 4, possibly earlier.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hi all,

I'm laying out a manuscript in Frame 8 that is packed full of detailed
footnotes. This author is fond of them, and one footnote in particular 
spans

multiple pages. Word can allow footnotes to span pages. So far, it appears
that Frame's footnotes can't span pages.

I can't get into the merits of writing in long footnotes (whole 'nother
discussion), I'm stuck with them, and I didn't write them. When I get a
footnote that is longer than one page, even moving the maximum height as
high as possible (Format > Document > Footnote Properties > Maximum Height
Per Column), Frame goes into Footnote Freefall. The extra-long footnote
disappears, and all the other footnotes seem to lose their minds in the
process. they go onto one page per footnote at the end of the document.
Meaning they leave the bottoms of the pages throughout and go to the end,
one footnote per page, thus adding about 15-20 extra pages to the end of 
my
document, blank except for one footnote at the bottom of each. If I take 
out
the now disappeared long footnote (by deleting the footnote reference in 
the

text), all the other footnotes go back where they belong.

Has anyone seen this? Any ideas about how to deal with long footnotes in
Frame other than go back to the author and tell him to rewrite?

Tina

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Editor

Trial Guides, LLC

503-531-3233


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Footnote problem--long footnotes

2007-10-17 Thread Tina Ricks
Hi all,

 

I'm laying out a manuscript in Frame 8 that is packed full of detailed
footnotes. This author is fond of them, and one footnote in particular spans
multiple pages. Word can allow footnotes to span pages. So far, it appears
that Frame's footnotes can't span pages.

 

I can't get into the merits of writing in long footnotes (whole 'nother
discussion), I'm stuck with them, and I didn't write them. When I get a
footnote that is longer than one page, even moving the maximum height as
high as possible (Format > Document > Footnote Properties > Maximum Height
Per Column), Frame goes into Footnote Freefall. The extra-long footnote
disappears, and all the other footnotes seem to lose their minds in the
process. they go onto one page per footnote at the end of the document.
Meaning they leave the bottoms of the pages throughout and go to the end,
one footnote per page, thus adding about 15-20 extra pages to the end of my
document, blank except for one footnote at the bottom of each. If I take out
the now disappeared long footnote (by deleting the footnote reference in the
text), all the other footnotes go back where they belong.

 

Has anyone seen this? Any ideas about how to deal with long footnotes in
Frame other than go back to the author and tell him to rewrite?

 

Tina

 

Tina Ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Editor

Trial Guides, LLC

503-531-3233

 

 

 

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Footnote problem--long footnotes

2007-10-17 Thread Tina Ricks
Hi all,



I'm laying out a manuscript in Frame 8 that is packed full of detailed
footnotes. This author is fond of them, and one footnote in particular spans
multiple pages. Word can allow footnotes to span pages. So far, it appears
that Frame's footnotes can't span pages.



I can't get into the merits of writing in long footnotes (whole 'nother
discussion), I'm stuck with them, and I didn't write them. When I get a
footnote that is longer than one page, even moving the maximum height as
high as possible (Format > Document > Footnote Properties > Maximum Height
Per Column), Frame goes into Footnote Freefall. The extra-long footnote
disappears, and all the other footnotes seem to lose their minds in the
process. they go onto one page per footnote at the end of the document.
Meaning they leave the bottoms of the pages throughout and go to the end,
one footnote per page, thus adding about 15-20 extra pages to the end of my
document, blank except for one footnote at the bottom of each. If I take out
the now disappeared long footnote (by deleting the footnote reference in the
text), all the other footnotes go back where they belong.



Has anyone seen this? Any ideas about how to deal with long footnotes in
Frame other than go back to the author and tell him to rewrite?



Tina



Tina Ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net

Editor

Trial Guides, LLC

503-531-3233