RE: Frame Versions Question

2007-08-06 Thread Randy . Handel
For what it is worth, FM8 lets you save files in 7 format.  I know that is
not full proof compatibility, but at least it is an option.


Randolph Handel 
Technical Writer
Medical Manager Research & Development
Sage Software
15151 NW 99th Street ● Alachua, FL 32615 
Office: 386.418.7137 ● Fax: 386.418.1591
www.sagehealth.com


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Behalf Of Sharon Burton
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:38 PM
To: Dov Isaacs; Art Campbell
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame Versions Question

Thank you, Dov. I'll do that. I was hoping someone might have just contacted
Adobe with this same issue and knew.


sharon

Sharon Burton
CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
951-369-8590
www.anthrobytes.com


-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Art Campbell
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame Versions Question


My advice, for what it is worth, is to contact Adobe Customer Support ASAP
instead of relying on the guesses of those on the list as to what might be
legal, what Adobe might allow, etc.
Explain your situation and see whether they might be able to make some
reasonable accommodation for you, especially if you are on some volume
purchase plan. If necessary, ask for a supervisor.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Sharon Burton
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:38 PM
>
> Because of how my employer purchases software, we can't buy from
someone who
> isn't Adobe when we buy Adobe software. It's a very frustrating
purchasing
> process.
>
> We were hoping if we purchase 8, then it would sort of cover us on the
extra
> use of the 7.2 seats in a retroactive way. We would have, in fact,
enough
> seats of Frame, we just wouldn't use the 8 copies until we can bring
the
> entire group forward at the same time.
>
> I can't figure out from the EULA if this is legal or not.
>
> sharon
>
> Sharon Burton
> CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
> 951-369-8590
> www.anthrobytes.com
>

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Frame Versions Question

2007-08-06 Thread randy.han...@sage.com
For what it is worth, FM8 lets you save files in 7 format.  I know that is
not full proof compatibility, but at least it is an option.


Randolph Handel 
Technical Writer
Medical Manager Research & Development
Sage Software
15151 NW 99th Street ? Alachua, FL 32615 
Office: 386.418.7137 ? Fax: 386.418.1591
www.sagehealth.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+randy.handel=sage@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+randy.handel=sage.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon Burton
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:38 PM
To: Dov Isaacs; Art Campbell
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame Versions Question

Thank you, Dov. I'll do that. I was hoping someone might have just contacted
Adobe with this same issue and knew.


sharon

Sharon Burton
CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
951-369-8590
www.anthrobytes.com


-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:41 PM
To: sharon at anthrobytes.com; Art Campbell
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame Versions Question


My advice, for what it is worth, is to contact Adobe Customer Support ASAP
instead of relying on the guesses of those on the list as to what might be
legal, what Adobe might allow, etc.
Explain your situation and see whether they might be able to make some
reasonable accommodation for you, especially if you are on some volume
purchase plan. If necessary, ask for a supervisor.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Sharon Burton
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:38 PM
>
> Because of how my employer purchases software, we can't buy from
someone who
> isn't Adobe when we buy Adobe software. It's a very frustrating
purchasing
> process.
>
> We were hoping if we purchase 8, then it would sort of cover us on the
extra
> use of the 7.2 seats in a retroactive way. We would have, in fact,
enough
> seats of Frame, we just wouldn't use the 8 copies until we can bring
the
> entire group forward at the same time.
>
> I can't figure out from the EULA if this is legal or not.
>
> sharon
>
> Sharon Burton
> CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
> 951-369-8590
> www.anthrobytes.com
>

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Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Art Campbell
Without reading the 8 EULA, which I don't have access to, yes,
probably it's not legal.
Why not just follow the KISS principle and get three 7.2 packages off
the shelf of a retailer who has left-overs and then see if Adobe will
follow it's usual procedure of giving an upgrade to the current
release if the product was purchased in the release time frame?
Adds up to the same amount of money, but you get everyone on 7.2 and
then upgrade together.

Art

On 8/5/07, Sharon Burton  wrote:
> My employer wants to know if this is legal:
>
> We are adding 3 writers. We currently all run Frame 7.2. We will be ordering
> Frame 8 for the new writers, with the intention of later this year,
> upgrading all 10 of the other writers to Frame 8. In the interim, we don't
> want some writers in 7.2 and some on 8. We are also about to release a major
> set of products and don't want to upgrade the docs people midstream. We all
> know the bad things that can happen of we do that this close to product
> releases.
>
> Can we buy the 3 copies of 8 and then let the 3 writers use 7.2? We will be
> violating our license agreement?
>
>
> sharon
>
> Sharon Burton
> CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
> 951-369-8590
> www.anthrobytes.com
>
>
> ___
>
>



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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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RE: Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Sharon Burton
Thank you, Dov. I'll do that. I was hoping someone might have just contacted
Adobe with this same issue and knew.


sharon

Sharon Burton
CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
951-369-8590
www.anthrobytes.com


-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Art Campbell
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame Versions Question


My advice, for what it is worth, is to contact Adobe Customer
Support ASAP instead of relying on the guesses of those on the
list as to what might be legal, what Adobe might allow, etc.
Explain your situation and see whether they might be able to
make some reasonable accommodation for you, especially if you
are on some volume purchase plan. If necessary, ask for a
supervisor.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Sharon Burton
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:38 PM
>
> Because of how my employer purchases software, we can't buy from
someone who
> isn't Adobe when we buy Adobe software. It's a very frustrating
purchasing
> process.
>
> We were hoping if we purchase 8, then it would sort of cover us on the
extra
> use of the 7.2 seats in a retroactive way. We would have, in fact,
enough
> seats of Frame, we just wouldn't use the 8 copies until we can bring
the
> entire group forward at the same time.
>
> I can't figure out from the EULA if this is legal or not.
>
> sharon
>
> Sharon Burton
> CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
> 951-369-8590
> www.anthrobytes.com
>

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Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Sharon Burton
Thank you, Dov. I'll do that. I was hoping someone might have just contacted
Adobe with this same issue and knew.


sharon

Sharon Burton
CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
951-369-8590
www.anthrobytes.com


-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:41 PM
To: sharon at anthrobytes.com; Art Campbell
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame Versions Question


My advice, for what it is worth, is to contact Adobe Customer
Support ASAP instead of relying on the guesses of those on the
list as to what might be legal, what Adobe might allow, etc.
Explain your situation and see whether they might be able to
make some reasonable accommodation for you, especially if you
are on some volume purchase plan. If necessary, ask for a
supervisor.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Sharon Burton
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:38 PM
>
> Because of how my employer purchases software, we can't buy from
someone who
> isn't Adobe when we buy Adobe software. It's a very frustrating
purchasing
> process.
>
> We were hoping if we purchase 8, then it would sort of cover us on the
extra
> use of the 7.2 seats in a retroactive way. We would have, in fact,
enough
> seats of Frame, we just wouldn't use the 8 copies until we can bring
the
> entire group forward at the same time.
>
> I can't figure out from the EULA if this is legal or not.
>
> sharon
>
> Sharon Burton
> CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
> 951-369-8590
> www.anthrobytes.com
>




RE: Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Dov Isaacs
My advice, for what it is worth, is to contact Adobe Customer
Support ASAP instead of relying on the guesses of those on the
list as to what might be legal, what Adobe might allow, etc.
Explain your situation and see whether they might be able to
make some reasonable accommodation for you, especially if you
are on some volume purchase plan. If necessary, ask for a 
supervisor.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Sharon Burton
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:38 PM
> 
> Because of how my employer purchases software, we can't buy from
someone who
> isn't Adobe when we buy Adobe software. It's a very frustrating
purchasing
> process.
> 
> We were hoping if we purchase 8, then it would sort of cover us on the
extra
> use of the 7.2 seats in a retroactive way. We would have, in fact,
enough
> seats of Frame, we just wouldn't use the 8 copies until we can bring
the
> entire group forward at the same time.
> 
> I can't figure out from the EULA if this is legal or not.
> 
> sharon
> 
> Sharon Burton
> CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
> 951-369-8590
> www.anthrobytes.com
> 
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Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Dov Isaacs
My advice, for what it is worth, is to contact Adobe Customer
Support ASAP instead of relying on the guesses of those on the
list as to what might be legal, what Adobe might allow, etc.
Explain your situation and see whether they might be able to
make some reasonable accommodation for you, especially if you
are on some volume purchase plan. If necessary, ask for a 
supervisor.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Sharon Burton
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:38 PM
> 
> Because of how my employer purchases software, we can't buy from
someone who
> isn't Adobe when we buy Adobe software. It's a very frustrating
purchasing
> process.
> 
> We were hoping if we purchase 8, then it would sort of cover us on the
extra
> use of the 7.2 seats in a retroactive way. We would have, in fact,
enough
> seats of Frame, we just wouldn't use the 8 copies until we can bring
the
> entire group forward at the same time.
> 
> I can't figure out from the EULA if this is legal or not.
> 
> sharon
> 
> Sharon Burton
> CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
> 951-369-8590
> www.anthrobytes.com
> 



RE: Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Sharon Burton
Because of how my employer purchases software, we can't buy from someone who
isn't Adobe when we buy Adobe software. It's a very frustrating purchasing
process.

We were hoping if we purchase 8, then it would sort of cover us on the extra
use of the 7.2 seats in a retroactive way. We would have, in fact, enough
seats of Frame, we just wouldn't use the 8 copies until we can bring the
entire group forward at the same time.

I can't figure out from the EULA if this is legal or not.

sharon

Sharon Burton
CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
951-369-8590
www.anthrobytes.com


-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Frame Versions Question


Without reading the 8 EULA, which I don't have access to, yes,
probably it's not legal.
Why not just follow the KISS principle and get three 7.2 packages off
the shelf of a retailer who has left-overs and then see if Adobe will
follow it's usual procedure of giving an upgrade to the current
release if the product was purchased in the release time frame?
Adds up to the same amount of money, but you get everyone on 7.2 and
then upgrade together.

Art

On 8/5/07, Sharon Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My employer wants to know if this is legal:
>
> We are adding 3 writers. We currently all run Frame 7.2. We will be
ordering
> Frame 8 for the new writers, with the intention of later this year,
> upgrading all 10 of the other writers to Frame 8. In the interim, we don't
> want some writers in 7.2 and some on 8. We are also about to release a
major
> set of products and don't want to upgrade the docs people midstream. We
all
> know the bad things that can happen of we do that this close to product
> releases.
>
> Can we buy the 3 copies of 8 and then let the 3 writers use 7.2? We will
be
> violating our license agreement?

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Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Sharon Burton
Because of how my employer purchases software, we can't buy from someone who
isn't Adobe when we buy Adobe software. It's a very frustrating purchasing
process.

We were hoping if we purchase 8, then it would sort of cover us on the extra
use of the 7.2 seats in a retroactive way. We would have, in fact, enough
seats of Frame, we just wouldn't use the 8 copies until we can bring the
entire group forward at the same time.

I can't figure out from the EULA if this is legal or not.

sharon

Sharon Burton
CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
951-369-8590
www.anthrobytes.com


-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:43 PM
To: sharon at anthrobytes.com
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Frame Versions Question


Without reading the 8 EULA, which I don't have access to, yes,
probably it's not legal.
Why not just follow the KISS principle and get three 7.2 packages off
the shelf of a retailer who has left-overs and then see if Adobe will
follow it's usual procedure of giving an upgrade to the current
release if the product was purchased in the release time frame?
Adds up to the same amount of money, but you get everyone on 7.2 and
then upgrade together.

Art

On 8/5/07, Sharon Burton  wrote:
> My employer wants to know if this is legal:
>
> We are adding 3 writers. We currently all run Frame 7.2. We will be
ordering
> Frame 8 for the new writers, with the intention of later this year,
> upgrading all 10 of the other writers to Frame 8. In the interim, we don't
> want some writers in 7.2 and some on 8. We are also about to release a
major
> set of products and don't want to upgrade the docs people midstream. We
all
> know the bad things that can happen of we do that this close to product
> releases.
>
> Can we buy the 3 copies of 8 and then let the 3 writers use 7.2? We will
be
> violating our license agreement?




Re: Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Art Campbell
Without reading the 8 EULA, which I don't have access to, yes,
probably it's not legal.
Why not just follow the KISS principle and get three 7.2 packages off
the shelf of a retailer who has left-overs and then see if Adobe will
follow it's usual procedure of giving an upgrade to the current
release if the product was purchased in the release time frame?
Adds up to the same amount of money, but you get everyone on 7.2 and
then upgrade together.

Art

On 8/5/07, Sharon Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My employer wants to know if this is legal:
>
> We are adding 3 writers. We currently all run Frame 7.2. We will be ordering
> Frame 8 for the new writers, with the intention of later this year,
> upgrading all 10 of the other writers to Frame 8. In the interim, we don't
> want some writers in 7.2 and some on 8. We are also about to release a major
> set of products and don't want to upgrade the docs people midstream. We all
> know the bad things that can happen of we do that this close to product
> releases.
>
> Can we buy the 3 copies of 8 and then let the 3 writers use 7.2? We will be
> violating our license agreement?
>
>
> sharon
>
> Sharon Burton
> CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
> 951-369-8590
> www.anthrobytes.com
>
>
> ___
>
>



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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Sharon Burton
My employer wants to know if this is legal:

We are adding 3 writers. We currently all run Frame 7.2. We will be ordering
Frame 8 for the new writers, with the intention of later this year,
upgrading all 10 of the other writers to Frame 8. In the interim, we don't
want some writers in 7.2 and some on 8. We are also about to release a major
set of products and don't want to upgrade the docs people midstream. We all
know the bad things that can happen of we do that this close to product
releases.

Can we buy the 3 copies of 8 and then let the 3 writers use 7.2? We will be
violating our license agreement?


sharon

Sharon Burton
CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
951-369-8590
www.anthrobytes.com


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Frame Versions Question

2007-08-05 Thread Sharon Burton
My employer wants to know if this is legal:

We are adding 3 writers. We currently all run Frame 7.2. We will be ordering
Frame 8 for the new writers, with the intention of later this year,
upgrading all 10 of the other writers to Frame 8. In the interim, we don't
want some writers in 7.2 and some on 8. We are also about to release a major
set of products and don't want to upgrade the docs people midstream. We all
know the bad things that can happen of we do that this close to product
releases.

Can we buy the 3 copies of 8 and then let the 3 writers use 7.2? We will be
violating our license agreement?


sharon

Sharon Burton
CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
951-369-8590
www.anthrobytes.com