Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
RoboHelp will do that automatically if you select the Kindle option.

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Keith Soltys keith.sol...@tmx.com wrote:
 Most people going to Kindle format will start by building the book in EPUB, 
 then converting to Amazon's format.
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FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
RoboHelp will do that automatically if you select the Kindle option.

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Keith Soltys  wrote:
> Most people going to Kindle format will start by building the book in EPUB, 
> then converting to Amazon's format.


FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
I am wondering if there is any simple route from a hyperlinked PDF to 
ePub/eBook formats. I have no experience of the latter, but would like to offer 
a FrameMaker - ePub service in future. Any advice would be welcome.
-- 
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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Writer
Hi, Steve:

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub 
2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output here: 
http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can generate 
both outputs at the same time.

Nadine


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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 05:55 -0700 5/4/13, Writer wrote:

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub 
2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output here: 
http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can generate 
both outputs at the same time.

Nadine, thanks. What I think I initially meant (and should have said) was 
Kindle, but ePub might be an option. I don't know enough about these formats 
yet to say anything very sensible about them: will read up. But I see that 
'Kindle' is not of itself a format, but a platform that can support eBooks in a 
variety of formats, the 'native' one being AZW (and now KF8). But *not* ePub, 
although Amazon offer a conversion utility from ePub to Kindle.

If anyone is following this thread with bated breath, here's a clutch of 
vaguely helpful links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_formats

https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/help?topicId=A17W8UM0MMSQX6*

http://techtips.salon.com/kindle-reader-file-types-26191.html

http://e-readers.techcrunch.com/q/53/5238/What-file-formats-are-compatible-with-the-Amazon-Kindle-3rd-gen-e-reader

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000234621 (Kindle converters)

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Formatting-Complete-Amazon-ebook/dp/B0024FAPF4

Somewhat humorous that a book about how to make a Kindle book is itself 
available in a Kindle edition, sort of.

If, as appears above, the Kindle 2G supports PDF, I'm thinking maybe I don't 
need to worry about conversion anyway. But the platform also appears to be a 
bit of a moving target.

(* Whoever wrote 'Word is a great tool to use because it's extremely easy to 
format' is living on a different planet to mine)

-- 
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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Mike Wickham
Not sure about PDF to EPUB, but there is FM to EPUB capability with the 
EPubFm2 plugin:

http://www.elmsoftonline.com/ElmProducts.html

And the Adobe Tech Comm Suite also produces EPUB.

Mike Wickham

On 4/5/2013 6:49 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:

I am wondering if there is any simple route from a hyperlinked PDF to ePub/eBook 
formats. I have no experience of the latter, but would like to offer a FrameMaker 
- ePub service in future. Any advice would be welcome.



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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Matt Sullivan
Along with the usual suspects (MIF2GO, WW, RH) to output EPUB, RoboHelp also generates Kindle-compatible files using the same interface (Single Source Layouts) as its other outputs.Thus linking a FrameMaker project to RoboHelp (or importing, if you don't have the integrated TCS) gives you HTML5, EPUB, and Kindle output straight out of the box.
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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:45 -0500 5/4/13, Mike Wickham wrote:

Not sure about PDF to EPUB, but there is FM to EPUB capability with the 
EPubFm2 plugin:
http://www.elmsoftonline.com/ElmProducts.html

Mike, thanks. And as Amazon do a free ePub - Kindle converter, that seems a 
viable route, although I don't know how much damage would ensue along it.

Thanks and so on to Matt for highlighting TCS5, and Owen for Calibre. So it 
seems there are lots of options: great stuff.

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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Matt Sullivan
Calibre is a fantastic utility and certainly should be in any EPUB or Kindle publisher's toolbox!
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On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:At 09:45 -0500 5/4/13, Mike Wickham wrote:Not sure about PDF to EPUB, but there is FM to EPUB capability with the EPubFm2 plugin:http://www.elmsoftonline.com/ElmProducts.htmlMike, thanks. And as Amazon do a free ePub - Kindle converter, that seems a viable route, although I don't know how much damage would ensue along it.Thanks and so on to Matt for highlighting TCS5, and Owen for Calibre. So it seems there are lots of options: great stuff.-- Steve___


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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Scott Prentice

Steve...

It looks like you've probably got more info than you need, but let me 
thrown in one more. I maintain this website (below) and try to keep the 
Resources page up to date with all of the EPUB tools that I'm aware of. 
There's a section on tools that export to EPUB that will list many 
options ..


http://epubtest.com/resources.php

Yes .. there are tools that convert from PDF to EPUB .. although the 
results may be less than desirable.


One point of caution .. when converting from FM (or Word) to EPUB, most 
tools will try to emulate the formatting and layout that exists in the 
source document. This is typically not a good idea. For a small screen, 
you want the most simple and basic layout possible. This is partially 
due to the screen size limitations, but also so that it'll look as good 
as possible on the widest array of devices and reader apps. Before 
sending a document through one of these tools, try to apply a very 
stripped down and simplified template, you'll be much happier with the 
results. This also helps with the EPUB to Kindle conversion.


Cheers,

...scott

On 4/5/13 8:01 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:

At 09:45 -0500 5/4/13, Mike Wickham wrote:


Not sure about PDF to EPUB, but there is FM to EPUB capability with the EPubFm2 
plugin:
http://www.elmsoftonline.com/ElmProducts.html

Mike, thanks. And as Amazon do a free ePub - Kindle converter, that seems a 
viable route, although I don't know how much damage would ensue along it.

Thanks and so on to Matt for highlighting TCS5, and Owen for Calibre. So it 
seems there are lots of options: great stuff.



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RE: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:05 + 5/4/13, Keith Soltys wrote:

While the E-Ink based Kindles will display PDF files, I've never found viewing 
a PDF on them a very satisfactory experience.

Maybe so, but I've seen good FrameMaker books wrecked in Kindle-native form.

-- 
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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
Thanks Scott: this is most useful. I'm just in outline planning at present, but 
the advice to 'plainify' a book first is very helpful.
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RE: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Keith Soltys
A year or so ago, I wrote some articles for TechWhirl about this subject.

E-Books: A Tool Overview for Technical Writers
 http://techwhirl.com/building-e-books-a-tool-overview-for-technical-writers/

E-Book Formats
http://techwhirl.com/e-book-formats/

The articles haven't dated too much since I wrote them.

Most people going to Kindle format will start by building the book in EPUB, 
then converting to Amazon's format.

While the E-Ink based Kindles will display PDF files, I've never found viewing 
a PDF on them a very satisfactory experience. You really need a tablet for PDFs.

Regards
Keith


 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:35 AM
 To: Writer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

 At 05:55 -0700 5/4/13, Writer wrote:

 I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub
 2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output here:
 http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can
 generate both outputs at the same time.

 Nadine, thanks. What I think I initially meant (and should have said) was 
 Kindle,
 but ePub might be an option. I don't know enough about these formats yet to
 say anything very sensible about them: will read up. But I see that 'Kindle' 
 is not
 of itself a format, but a platform that can support eBooks in a variety of 
 formats,
 the 'native' one being AZW (and now KF8). But *not* ePub, although Amazon
 offer a conversion utility from ePub to Kindle.

 If anyone is following this thread with bated breath, here's a clutch of 
 vaguely
 helpful links:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_formats

 https://kdp.amazon.com/self-
 publishing/help?topicId=A17W8UM0MMSQX6*

 http://techtips.salon.com/kindle-reader-file-types-26191.html

 http://e-readers.techcrunch.com/q/53/5238/What-file-formats-are-
 compatible-with-the-Amazon-Kindle-3rd-gen-e-reader

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000234621 (Kindle
 converters)

 http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Formatting-Complete-Amazon-
 ebook/dp/B0024FAPF4

 Somewhat humorous that a book about how to make a Kindle book is itself
 available in a Kindle edition, sort of.

 If, as appears above, the Kindle 2G supports PDF, I'm thinking maybe I don't
 need to worry about conversion anyway. But the platform also appears to be a
 bit of a moving target.

 (* Whoever wrote 'Word is a great tool to use because it's extremely easy to
 format' is living on a different planet to mine)

 --
 Steve
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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Robert Lauriston
iPad displays are 1024x768 (or twice that at twice the ppi for the
Retina models). Standard three-pane web help displays fine. So do
PDFs. There's no need to use a special layout.
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RE: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Keith Soltys
Formatting for ebooks is very different for formatting for fixed layout like 
print or PDF. It's more akin to formatting for an online help format like CHM 
or webhelp. Your reader has a little 4x6 window into which you have to shoehorn 
your text, and you don't know what font size or possibly even what font they 
are using. Additionally, the formats themselves (EPUB2, EPUB3, MOBI) have major 
limitations in how they handle common formatting elements (indents, bullets, 
interline and paragraph spacing), tables, and graphics. You have tools that 
introduce their own bugs (Calibre, InDesign)  And finally, you cannot assume 
that your carefully crafted file, which displays perfectly on the device you 
tested it on (a Nook, for example) will display properly on another device from 
a different manufacturer (a Kobo or an iPad).

It’s like the wild west out there right now - think of the early days of the 
web, with incompatible browser standards and various flavours of HTML - but 
worse.

If you have to distribute a highly formatted document, ebook formats may not be 
the best solution, especially if that document contains tables with complex 
layouts. PDF works well on tablets, but not so well for E-Ink based readers. 
You really need to test your documents on the devices your readers will be 
using to see what gives the best results.

Regards
Keith

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 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 12:18 PM
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 Subject: RE: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

 At 15:05 + 5/4/13, Keith Soltys wrote:

 While the E-Ink based Kindles will display PDF files, I've never found 
 viewing a
 PDF on them a very satisfactory experience.

 Maybe so, but I've seen good FrameMaker books wrecked in Kindle-native form.

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FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
I am wondering if there is any simple route from a hyperlinked PDF to 
ePub/eBook formats. I have no experience of the latter, but would like to offer 
a FrameMaker -> ePub service in future. Any advice would be welcome.
-- 
Steve 


FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Writer
Hi, Steve:

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub 
2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output 
here:?http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can 
generate both outputs at the same time.

Nadine


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FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 05:55 -0700 5/4/13, Writer wrote:

>I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub 
>2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output here: 
>http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can generate 
>both outputs at the same time.

Nadine, thanks. What I think I initially meant (and should have said) was 
Kindle, but ePub might be an option. I don't know enough about these formats 
yet to say anything very sensible about them: will read up. But I see that 
'Kindle' is not of itself a format, but a platform that can support eBooks in a 
variety of formats, the 'native' one being AZW (and now KF8). But *not* ePub, 
although Amazon offer a conversion utility from ePub to Kindle.

If anyone is following this thread with bated breath, here's a clutch of 
vaguely helpful links:



*





 (Kindle converters)



Somewhat humorous that a book about how to make a Kindle book is itself 
available in a Kindle edition, sort of.

If, as appears above, the Kindle 2G supports PDF, I'm thinking maybe I don't 
need to worry about conversion anyway. But the platform also appears to be a 
bit of a moving target.

(* Whoever wrote 'Word is a great tool to use because it's extremely easy to 
format' is living on a different planet to mine)

-- 
Steve


FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Mike Wickham
Not sure about PDF to EPUB, but there is FM to EPUB capability with the 
EPubFm2 plugin:
http://www.elmsoftonline.com/ElmProducts.html

And the Adobe Tech Comm Suite also produces EPUB.

Mike Wickham

On 4/5/2013 6:49 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> I am wondering if there is any simple route from a hyperlinked PDF to 
> ePub/eBook formats. I have no experience of the latter, but would like to 
> offer a FrameMaker -> ePub service in future. Any advice would be welcome.




FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Matt Sullivan
Along with the usual suspects (MIF2GO, WW, RH) to output EPUB, RoboHelp also 
generates Kindle-compatible files using the same interface (Single Source 
Layouts) as its other outputs.

Thus linking a FrameMaker project to RoboHelp (or importing, if you don't have 
the integrated TCS) gives you HTML5, EPUB, and Kindle output straight out of 
the box.

-Matt

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FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:45 -0500 5/4/13, Mike Wickham wrote:

>Not sure about PDF to EPUB, but there is FM to EPUB capability with the 
>EPubFm2 plugin:
>http://www.elmsoftonline.com/ElmProducts.html

Mike, thanks. And as Amazon do a free ePub -> Kindle converter, that seems a 
viable route, although I don't know how much damage would ensue along it.

Thanks and so on to Matt for highlighting TCS5, and Owen for Calibre. So it 
seems there are lots of options: great stuff.

-- 
Steve


FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Matt Sullivan
Calibre is a fantastic utility and certainly should be in any EPUB or Kindle 
publisher's toolbox!

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 949.388.5683 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Steve Rickaby  
wrote:

> At 09:45 -0500 5/4/13, Mike Wickham wrote:
> 
>> Not sure about PDF to EPUB, but there is FM to EPUB capability with the 
>> EPubFm2 plugin:
>> http://www.elmsoftonline.com/ElmProducts.html
> 
> Mike, thanks. And as Amazon do a free ePub -> Kindle converter, that seems a 
> viable route, although I don't know how much damage would ensue along it.
> 
> Thanks and so on to Matt for highlighting TCS5, and Owen for Calibre. So it 
> seems there are lots of options: great stuff.
> 
> -- 
> Steve

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FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Scott Prentice
Steve...

It looks like you've probably got more info than you need, but let me 
thrown in one more. I maintain this website (below) and try to keep the 
Resources page up to date with all of the EPUB tools that I'm aware of. 
There's a section on "tools that export to EPUB" that will list many 
options ..

 http://epubtest.com/resources.php

Yes .. there are tools that convert from PDF to EPUB .. although the 
results may be less than desirable.

One point of caution .. when converting from FM (or Word) to EPUB, most 
tools will try to emulate the formatting and layout that exists in the 
source document. This is typically not a good idea. For a small screen, 
you want the most simple and basic layout possible. This is partially 
due to the screen size limitations, but also so that it'll look as good 
as possible on the widest array of devices and reader apps. Before 
sending a document through one of these tools, try to apply a very 
stripped down and simplified template, you'll be much happier with the 
results. This also helps with the EPUB to Kindle conversion.

Cheers,

...scott

On 4/5/13 8:01 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 09:45 -0500 5/4/13, Mike Wickham wrote:
>
>> Not sure about PDF to EPUB, but there is FM to EPUB capability with the 
>> EPubFm2 plugin:
>> http://www.elmsoftonline.com/ElmProducts.html
> Mike, thanks. And as Amazon do a free ePub -> Kindle converter, that seems a 
> viable route, although I don't know how much damage would ensue along it.
>
> Thanks and so on to Matt for highlighting TCS5, and Owen for Calibre. So it 
> seems there are lots of options: great stuff.
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FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:05 + 5/4/13, Keith Soltys wrote:

>While the E-Ink based Kindles will display PDF files, I've never found viewing 
>a PDF on them a very satisfactory experience.

Maybe so, but I've seen good FrameMaker books wrecked in Kindle-native form.

-- 
Steve


FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
Thanks Scott: this is most useful. I'm just in outline planning at present, but 
the advice to 'plainify' a book first is very helpful.
-- 
Steve


FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Keith Soltys
A year or so ago, I wrote some articles for TechWhirl about this subject.

E-Books: A Tool Overview for Technical Writers
 http://techwhirl.com/building-e-books-a-tool-overview-for-technical-writers/

E-Book Formats
http://techwhirl.com/e-book-formats/

The articles haven't dated too much since I wrote them.

Most people going to Kindle format will start by building the book in EPUB, 
then converting to Amazon's format.

While the E-Ink based Kindles will display PDF files, I've never found viewing 
a PDF on them a very satisfactory experience. You really need a tablet for PDFs.

Regards
Keith


> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:35 AM
> To: Writer; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?
>
> At 05:55 -0700 5/4/13, Writer wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub
> 2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output here:
> http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can
> generate both outputs at the same time.
>
> Nadine, thanks. What I think I initially meant (and should have said) was 
> Kindle,
> but ePub might be an option. I don't know enough about these formats yet to
> say anything very sensible about them: will read up. But I see that 'Kindle' 
> is not
> of itself a format, but a platform that can support eBooks in a variety of 
> formats,
> the 'native' one being AZW (and now KF8). But *not* ePub, although Amazon
> offer a conversion utility from ePub to Kindle.
>
> If anyone is following this thread with bated breath, here's a clutch of 
> vaguely
> helpful links:
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_formats>
>
> <https://kdp.amazon.com/self-
> publishing/help?topicId=A17W8UM0MMSQX6>*
>
> <http://techtips.salon.com/kindle-reader-file-types-26191.html>
>
> <http://e-readers.techcrunch.com/q/53/5238/What-file-formats-are-
> compatible-with-the-Amazon-Kindle-3rd-gen-e-reader>
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000234621> (Kindle
> converters)
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Formatting-Complete-Amazon-
> ebook/dp/B0024FAPF4>
>
> Somewhat humorous that a book about how to make a Kindle book is itself
> available in a Kindle edition, sort of.
>
> If, as appears above, the Kindle 2G supports PDF, I'm thinking maybe I don't
> need to worry about conversion anyway. But the platform also appears to be a
> bit of a moving target.
>
> (* Whoever wrote 'Word is a great tool to use because it's extremely easy to
> format' is living on a different planet to mine)
>
> --
> Steve
> _

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FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Robert Lauriston
iPad displays are 1024x768 (or twice that at twice the ppi for the
Retina models). Standard three-pane web help displays fine. So do
PDFs. There's no need to use a special layout.


FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Keith Soltys
Formatting for ebooks is very different for formatting for fixed layout like 
print or PDF. It's more akin to formatting for an online help format like CHM 
or webhelp. Your reader has a little 4x6 window into which you have to shoehorn 
your text, and you don't know what font size or possibly even what font they 
are using. Additionally, the formats themselves (EPUB2, EPUB3, MOBI) have major 
limitations in how they handle common formatting elements (indents, bullets, 
interline and paragraph spacing), tables, and graphics. You have tools that 
introduce their own bugs (Calibre, InDesign)  And finally, you cannot assume 
that your carefully crafted file, which displays perfectly on the device you 
tested it on (a Nook, for example) will display properly on another device from 
a different manufacturer (a Kobo or an iPad).

It?s like the wild west out there right now - think of the early days of the 
web, with incompatible browser standards and various flavours of HTML - but 
worse.

If you have to distribute a highly formatted document, ebook formats may not be 
the best solution, especially if that document contains tables with complex 
layouts. PDF works well on tablets, but not so well for E-Ink based readers. 
You really need to test your documents on the devices your readers will be 
using to see what gives the best results.

Regards
Keith

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 12:18 PM
> To: Keith Soltys; Framers Mailing List (framers at lists.frameusers.com)
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?
>
> At 15:05 + 5/4/13, Keith Soltys wrote:
>
> >While the E-Ink based Kindles will display PDF files, I've never found 
> >viewing a
> PDF on them a very satisfactory experience.
>
> Maybe so, but I've seen good FrameMaker books wrecked in Kindle-native form.
>
> --
> Steve

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