FrameMaker 7.0 for Mac?

[Steve Rickaby]

At 11:12 -0400 6/10/06, Neil Tubb wrote:

>I use Frame 7.1 for Windows at work, but use a PowerPC Mac at home. I
>would really like to be able to work a bit from home, so was wondering
>if it would be worth picking up Frame 7.0 for Mac. So:
>
>1. Did they actually make Frame 7.0 for Mac...I keep reading about an
>upgrade, but not a real product. I realize it is now discontinued.
>
>2. Are there big problems going back and forth between the two
>platforms? I have an old (5.5) version on my Mac currently, but going
>the Save to MIF route has resulted in no end of weird issues.

Seconding what William said, yes, eBay should find you a copy if you are 
patient: that's how I got mine. Yes, it exists, and it's afaik identical to 
FrameMaker 7.0 for PC, in that is has the bugs that were fixed by version 7.1, 
which was the first release after the Mac version was discontinued. (I have no 
idea what those bugs were, but I'm sure others on this list can tell you.)

Migration between platforms should not be a big issue for you providing that 
you are aware of a few issues:

. Fonts are generally ok but you have to watch out for some dangerous ones. 
Those are generally the ones where font foundries have used different names for 
the individual faces between Mac and PC platforms. I am currently battling with 
a particularly nasty issue with Frutiger from Monotype and Linotype. TransType 
can be your friend here: .

. You can cross-map fonts in the maker.ini file on PC FrameMaker, but no such 
facility exists on the Mac.

. Forward migration between versions should be smooth. Backward migration to 
5.5 would have to be handled by the MIF route, as I expect you know, although 
FrameMaker 7.0 onwards can save in FrameMaker 6 format (as I expect you also 
already know).

. The Mac version has a different population of graphics input filters to the 
PC version: Mac FrameMaker, for example, cannot import BMP format files out of 
the box.

HTH
-- 
Steve

Re: FrameMaker 7.0 for Mac?

[David Creamer]

> 1. Did they actually make Frame 7.0 for Mac...I keep reading about an
> upgrade, but not a real product. I realize it is now discontinued.
Yes--as mentioned, you are probably hunting for a used copy now.
Just be sure that the license transfer is part of the deal, so you become
the official owner.
>  
> 
> 2. Are there big problems going back and forth between the two
> platforms? I have an old (5.5) version on my Mac currently, but going
> the Save to MIF route has resulted in no end of weird issues.
At this point, I believe all version 7 files are compatible. You biggest
issue will be fonts--you will need Mac versions of the exact fonts used.
Even then, you might get some reflow. This may not be an issue if you are
just editing at home, not worrying about the layout. If you are using good
ol' Arial and TNR, be aware that the Mac versions are NOT the same fonts.
(On a minor note: if creating EPS files on a Mac, be sure to save with an
8-bit color TIFF preview, not the default Mac preview.)

Another option is to upgrade to an Intel Mac. You can run Windows on it a
number of ways, and there is a beta program that lets you run Windows
software directly on the Mac.

David Creamer
I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training
http://www.IDEAStraining.com
Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995)
Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988)
Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified
Apple Consultant Network member (since 1990)


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FrameMaker 7.0 for Mac?

[David Creamer]

> 1. Did they actually make Frame 7.0 for Mac...I keep reading about an
> upgrade, but not a real product. I realize it is now discontinued.
Yes--as mentioned, you are probably hunting for a used copy now.
Just be sure that the license transfer is part of the deal, so you become
the official owner.
>  
> 
> 2. Are there big problems going back and forth between the two
> platforms? I have an old (5.5) version on my Mac currently, but going
> the Save to MIF route has resulted in no end of weird issues.
At this point, I believe all version 7 files are compatible. You biggest
issue will be fonts--you will need Mac versions of the exact fonts used.
Even then, you might get some reflow. This may not be an issue if you are
just editing at home, not worrying about the layout. If you are using good
ol' Arial and TNR, be aware that the Mac versions are NOT the same fonts.
(On a minor note: if creating EPS files on a Mac, be sure to save with an
8-bit color TIFF preview, not the default Mac preview.)

Another option is to upgrade to an Intel Mac. You can run Windows on it a
number of ways, and there is a beta program that lets you run Windows
software directly on the Mac.

David Creamer
I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training
http://www.IDEAStraining.com
Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995)
Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988)
Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified
Apple Consultant Network member (since 1990)

Re: FrameMaker 7.0 for Mac?

[Steve Rickaby]

At 11:12 -0400 6/10/06, Neil Tubb wrote:

>I use Frame 7.1 for Windows at work, but use a PowerPC Mac at home. I
>would really like to be able to work a bit from home, so was wondering
>if it would be worth picking up Frame 7.0 for Mac. So:
>
>1. Did they actually make Frame 7.0 for Mac...I keep reading about an
>upgrade, but not a real product. I realize it is now discontinued.
>
>2. Are there big problems going back and forth between the two
>platforms? I have an old (5.5) version on my Mac currently, but going
>the Save to MIF route has resulted in no end of weird issues.

Seconding what William said, yes, eBay should find you a copy if you are 
patient: that's how I got mine. Yes, it exists, and it's afaik identical to 
FrameMaker 7.0 for PC, in that is has the bugs that were fixed by version 7.1, 
which was the first release after the Mac version was discontinued. (I have no 
idea what those bugs were, but I'm sure others on this list can tell you.)

Migration between platforms should not be a big issue for you providing that 
you are aware of a few issues:

. Fonts are generally ok but you have to watch out for some dangerous ones. 
Those are generally the ones where font foundries have used different names for 
the individual faces between Mac and PC platforms. I am currently battling with 
a particularly nasty issue with Frutiger from Monotype and Linotype. TransType 
can be your friend here: .

. You can cross-map fonts in the maker.ini file on PC FrameMaker, but no such 
facility exists on the Mac.

. Forward migration between versions should be smooth. Backward migration to 
5.5 would have to be handled by the MIF route, as I expect you know, although 
FrameMaker 7.0 onwards can save in FrameMaker 6 format (as I expect you also 
already know).

. The Mac version has a different population of graphics input filters to the 
PC version: Mac FrameMaker, for example, cannot import BMP format files out of 
the box.

HTH
-- 
Steve
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Re: FrameMaker 7.0 for Mac?

[William Gaffga]

Adobe did indeed make a v7.0 for Mac. EBay is one option for getting  
a copy. If you use identical fonts on both platforms there really  
shouldn't be any issues. We use that same setup in a professional  
environment.


Will.

On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:12 AM, Neil Tubb wrote:


Hey Framers,

I use Frame 7.1 for Windows at work, but use a PowerPC Mac at home. I
would really like to be able to work a bit from home, so was wondering
if it would be worth picking up Frame 7.0 for Mac. So:

1. Did they actually make Frame 7.0 for Mac...I keep reading about an
upgrade, but not a real product. I realize it is now discontinued.

2. Are there big problems going back and forth between the two
platforms? I have an old (5.5) version on my Mac currently, but going
the Save to MIF route has resulted in no end of weird issues.

Thanks in advance,

Neil

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FrameMaker 7.0 for Mac?

[William Gaffga]

Adobe did indeed make a v7.0 for Mac. EBay is one option for getting  
a copy. If you use identical fonts on both platforms there really  
shouldn't be any issues. We use that same setup in a professional  
environment.

Will.

On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:12 AM, Neil Tubb wrote:

> Hey Framers,
>
> I use Frame 7.1 for Windows at work, but use a PowerPC Mac at home. I
> would really like to be able to work a bit from home, so was wondering
> if it would be worth picking up Frame 7.0 for Mac. So:
>
> 1. Did they actually make Frame 7.0 for Mac...I keep reading about an
> upgrade, but not a real product. I realize it is now discontinued.
>
> 2. Are there big problems going back and forth between the two
> platforms? I have an old (5.5) version on my Mac currently, but going
> the Save to MIF route has resulted in no end of weird issues.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Neil

FrameMaker 7.0 for Mac?

[Neil Tubb]

Hey Framers,



I use Frame 7.1 for Windows at work, but use a PowerPC Mac at home. I
would really like to be able to work a bit from home, so was wondering
if it would be worth picking up Frame 7.0 for Mac. So:



1. Did they actually make Frame 7.0 for Mac...I keep reading about an
upgrade, but not a real product. I realize it is now discontinued.



2. Are there big problems going back and forth between the two
platforms? I have an old (5.5) version on my Mac currently, but going
the Save to MIF route has resulted in no end of weird issues.



Thanks in advance,

Neil



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Neil Tubb

Senior Technical Writer

Solace Systems, Inc.

535 Legget Drive, 6th Floor

Ottawa, ON K2K 3B8



Phone: (613) 271-1010, ext. 1066

Fax: (613) 271-2844

Internet: www.solacesystems.com  

Email: neil.tubb at solacesystems.com

FrameMaker 7.0 for Mac?

[Neil Tubb]

Hey Framers,

 

I use Frame 7.1 for Windows at work, but use a PowerPC Mac at home. I
would really like to be able to work a bit from home, so was wondering
if it would be worth picking up Frame 7.0 for Mac. So:

 

1. Did they actually make Frame 7.0 for Mac...I keep reading about an
upgrade, but not a real product. I realize it is now discontinued.

 

2. Are there big problems going back and forth between the two
platforms? I have an old (5.5) version on my Mac currently, but going
the Save to MIF route has resulted in no end of weird issues.

 

Thanks in advance,

Neil

 

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Neil Tubb

Senior Technical Writer

Solace Systems, Inc.

535 Legget Drive, 6th Floor

Ottawa, ON K2K 3B8

 

Phone: (613) 271-1010, ext. 1066

Fax: (613) 271-2844

Internet: www.solacesystems.com  

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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Framemaker 7.0 for Mac: 2,100 Page Textbook Typesetting Job

[Victoria Ravin]

I'm looking for someone who can help with the typesetting of a complex
structured Framemaker 7.0 for Mac textbook. It is a world history book that
we are translating into Spanish. The majority of the pages have already been
flowed. I need people who can help with inputting edits in both the
Framemaker files and the large pieces of art, which are in Illustrator and
Photoshop. The deadline for printer files is July 14. 

Please let me know your availability, location, and experience.

Thanks!

Victoria Ravin
Project Manager, translations.com 
420 Boylston Street, Sixth Floor
Boston, MA 02116
phone: 617.451.1233 x 35 | fax: 617.451.2247
AIM: vravinLFI

Framemaker 7.0 for Mac: 2,100 Page Textbook Typesetting Job

[Victoria Ravin]

I'm looking for someone who can help with the typesetting of a complex
structured Framemaker 7.0 for Mac textbook. It is a world history book that
we are translating into Spanish. The majority of the pages have already been
flowed. I need people who can help with inputting edits in both the
Framemaker files and the large pieces of art, which are in Illustrator and
Photoshop. The deadline for printer files is July 14. 
 
Please let me know your availability, location, and experience.
 
Thanks!
 
Victoria Ravin
Project Manager, translations.com 
420 Boylston Street, Sixth Floor
Boston, MA 02116
phone: 617.451.1233 x 35 | fax: 617.451.2247
AIM: vravinLFI
 
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