I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages
Hi Syed, IIRC this is normal and is to do with how FM handles header rows on multiple page tables. I had the same problem with 5.5.1 and found that FM replicates the header row from the first page an so they are not actually text as such. It is for this reason that anything in them is not editable or clickable. That is, the header row content is only displayed on subsequent pages. Adding text frames on them may work but in the end I had to add links in Acrobat after the pdf had been generated. Cheers Alan On 28/03/2008, at 1:40 PM, wrote: > > I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating! > Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here, > please! > > This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches. > 1. In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that > stretches > across multiple pages. > > 2. The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of > the > table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header" > on > all subsequent pages. > > 3. As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the > "(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at > the top, of course). > > 4. The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual > words > in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and > definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the > subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages is > not selectable in any way. > > Now, here is the sumptom I am observing: > > > > 1. After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page > header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly! > > > > 2. It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes > from an > arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the > other > part of the document. > > > > 3. But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same > word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and > (b) > clicking it has no effect, obviously! > > > > To me, this is a bug! > > > > But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here! > > > > Or, is there a workaround to this problem? > > > > Z > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
RE: I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages
Thanks, Alan! That seems to be the consensus of all the replies I have received. For me, it is just too much work to go editing the PDF output each time I generate it and send it out for review (I use PDF as my review format, since not everybody has FrameMaker here) ... things in the document are way too much in flux right now for that to be even remotely workable, since all the tables are "moving" on the pages quite a bit as I add and delete text that comes before them. I guess I will live with the limitation ... :( ... or maybe just remove the hypertext links from the table column titles for consistency at least! Z > -Original Message- > From: Alan Litchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:48 PM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across > multiple pages > > Hi Syed, > > IIRC this is normal and is to do with how FM handles header rows on > multiple page tables. I had the same problem with 5.5.1 and found that > FM replicates the header row from the first page an so they are not > actually text as such. It is for this reason that anything in them is > not editable or clickable. That is, the header row content is only > displayed on subsequent pages. > > Adding text frames on them may work but in the end I had to add links > in Acrobat after the pdf had been generated. > > Cheers > Alan > > On 28/03/2008, at 1:40 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating! > > Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here, > > please! > > > > This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches. > > > 1. In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that > > stretches > > across multiple pages. > > > > 2. The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of > > the > > table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header" > > on > > all subsequent pages. > > > > 3. As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the > > "(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at > > the top, of course). > > > > 4. The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual > > words > > in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and > > definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the > > subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages is > > not selectable in any way. > > > > Now, here is the sumptom I am observing: > > > > > > > > 1. After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page > > header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly! > > > > > > > > 2. It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes > > from an > > arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the > > other > > part of the document. > > > > > > > > 3. But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same > > word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and > > (b) > > clicking it has no effect, obviously! > > > > > > > > To me, this is a bug! > > > > > > > > But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here! > > > > > > > > Or, is there a workaround to this problem? > > > > > > > > Z > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co. nz > > > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- > Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages
Thanks, Alan! That seems to be the consensus of all the replies I have received. For me, it is just too much work to go editing the PDF output each time I generate it and send it out for review (I use PDF as my review format, since not everybody has FrameMaker here) ... things in the document are way too much in flux right now for that to be even remotely workable, since all the tables are "moving" on the pages quite a bit as I add and delete text that comes before them. I guess I will live with the limitation ... :( ... or maybe just remove the hypertext links from the table column titles for consistency at least! Z > -Original Message- > From: Alan Litchfield [mailto:alan at alphabyte.co.nz] > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:48 PM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across > multiple pages > > Hi Syed, > > IIRC this is normal and is to do with how FM handles header rows on > multiple page tables. I had the same problem with 5.5.1 and found that > FM replicates the header row from the first page an so they are not > actually text as such. It is for this reason that anything in them is > not editable or clickable. That is, the header row content is only > displayed on subsequent pages. > > Adding text frames on them may work but in the end I had to add links > in Acrobat after the pdf had been generated. > > Cheers > Alan > > On 28/03/2008, at 1:40 PM, wrote: > > > > > I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating! > > Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here, > > please! > > > > This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches. > > > 1. In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that > > stretches > > across multiple pages. > > > > 2. The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of > > the > > table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header" > > on > > all subsequent pages. > > > > 3. As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the > > "(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at > > the top, of course). > > > > 4. The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual > > words > > in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and > > definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the > > subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages is > > not selectable in any way. > > > > Now, here is the sumptom I am observing: > > > > > > > > 1. After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page > > header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly! > > > > > > > > 2. It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes > > from an > > arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the > > other > > part of the document. > > > > > > > > 3. But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same > > word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and > > (b) > > clicking it has no effect, obviously! > > > > > > > > To me, this is a bug! > > > > > > > > But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here! > > > > > > > > Or, is there a workaround to this problem? > > > > > > > > Z > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co. nz > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- > Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > > >
Re: I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages
Hi Syed, IIRC this is normal and is to do with how FM handles header rows on multiple page tables. I had the same problem with 5.5.1 and found that FM replicates the header row from the first page an so they are not actually text as such. It is for this reason that anything in them is not editable or clickable. That is, the header row content is only displayed on subsequent pages. Adding text frames on them may work but in the end I had to add links in Acrobat after the pdf had been generated. Cheers Alan On 28/03/2008, at 1:40 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating! > Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here, > please! > > This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches. > 1. In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that > stretches > across multiple pages. > > 2. The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of > the > table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header" > on > all subsequent pages. > > 3. As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the > "(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at > the top, of course). > > 4. The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual > words > in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and > definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the > subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages is > not selectable in any way. > > Now, here is the sumptom I am observing: > > > > 1. After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page > header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly! > > > > 2. It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes > from an > arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the > other > part of the document. > > > > 3. But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same > word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and > (b) > clicking it has no effect, obviously! > > > > To me, this is a bug! > > > > But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here! > > > > Or, is there a workaround to this problem? > > > > Z > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages
Hi, all. I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating! Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here, please! This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches. 1. In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that stretches across multiple pages. 2. The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of the table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header" on all subsequent pages. 3. As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the "(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at the top, of course). 4. The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual words in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages is not selectable in any way. Now, here is the sumptom I am observing: 1. After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly! 2. It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes from an arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the other part of the document. 3. But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and (b) clicking it has no effect, obviously! To me, this is a bug! But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here! Or, is there a workaround to this problem? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages
Hi, all. I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating! Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here, please! This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches. 1. In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that stretches across multiple pages. 2. The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of the table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header" on all subsequent pages. 3. As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the "(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at the top, of course). 4. The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual words in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages is not selectable in any way. Now, here is the sumptom I am observing: 1. After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly! 2. It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes from an arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the other part of the document. 3. But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and (b) clicking it has no effect, obviously! To me, this is a bug! But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here! Or, is there a workaround to this problem? Z
