Index Formatting Question
Well, you can keep the 2-part page number from breaking in the middle by using a non-breaking hyphen as the separator character. The entry would still break across lines, but at least the break would be more logical. And you might also decrease the space between the entry text and the page number; in your little example it seems kind of excessive (although I know the example is not realistic...) so you're more likely to get breaking lines. Or you could go to a 2-column layout for the index rather than a 3-column layout. Unless the font is pretty small, 3-column indexes often look cramped to me. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:42 PM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Index Formatting Question I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels breaks across a line: Level 1 1-1 Level 22- 1 Level 3 3- 1 Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Index Formatting Question
Hi Tammy, Use a non-breaking hyphen as the separator in your page numbers. Then the whole page number will break together. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com >I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only > two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, > The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly > indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented > beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, > however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels > breaks across a line: > > Level 1 1-1 > Level 22- > 1 >Level 3 3- >1 > > > Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of > manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a > plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something > like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option > to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and > I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. > > TIA, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Senior Technical Writer > Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. > 303-328-4420 > tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com > ___
Index Formatting Question
Hi Tammy, Change the separator to use a nonbreaking hyphen instead of a regular hyphen. This is in your IX reference page. You'll find something like this: <$chapnum>-<$pagenum> in the IndexIX line. Change the hyphen to a nonbreaking hyphen. Regards, Sarah Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only > two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, > The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly > indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented > beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, > however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels > breaks across a line: > > Level 1 1-1 > Level 22- > 1 > Level 3 3- > 1 > > > Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of > manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a > plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something > like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option > to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and > I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. > > TIA, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Senior Technical Writer > Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. > 303-328-4420 > tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as okeefe at scriptorium.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/okeefe%40scriptorium.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- ### Sarah O'Keefe okeefe at scriptorium.com Scriptorium Publishing Services, Inc. http://www.scriptorium.com Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/
Index Formatting Question
Hi, Tammy: At 2:42 PM -0600 4/25/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only >two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, >The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly >indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented >beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, >however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels >breaks across a line: > >Level 1 1-1 > Level 22- > 1 > Level 3 3- > 1 > > >Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of >manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a >plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something >like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option >to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and >I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. There's no way to fix this without changing the template. Dr. Phil says, "If you keep doing what you've been doing, you'll keep getting what you've been getting." Some ways to change the template include: * Change the Level*IX paragraph prototypes on the index reference page to use a non-breaking hyphen between the chapter-page number building blocks. This will keep the page number from breaking at the column edge. * Change the spaces before and after "1" at the beginning of the LevelsIX prototype to a non-breaking space. This keeps the number with the last word of each entry. Experiment to see if multiple-word entries, or multiple page references work well with this. You might want to make only one of these spaces as non-breaking, depending on what's in your index. * Change the word-spacing settings for the Level*IX paragraphs in the Advanced properties of the paragraph designer to allow more squishing between words. Consider allowing more squishing even between letters. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Index Formatting Question
Rick and Sarah and Fred, Thanks! I made the hyphen a nonbreaking one (had to get the search term right though in Framemaker to figure out how - nonbreaking, not non-breaking! :-) And yep, Fred, as per comment, And you might also decrease the space between the entry text and the page number; in your little example it seems kind of excessive (although I know the example is not realistic...) so you're more likely to get breaking lines. it was not realistic, Just wanted to make sure that I visually got my point across in an email - sometimes, unless you exaggerate spaces in an email, they're not the obvious. Thanks again - just implemented the change and it works like a charm. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Index Formatting Question
I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels breaks across a line: Level 1 1-1 Level 22- 1 Level 3 3- 1 Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Re: Index Formatting Question
Hi, Tammy: At 2:42 PM -0600 4/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels breaks across a line: Level 1 1-1 Level 22- 1 Level 3 3- 1 Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. There's no way to fix this without changing the template. Dr. Phil says, "If you keep doing what you've been doing, you'll keep getting what you've been getting." Some ways to change the template include: * Change the Level*IX paragraph prototypes on the index reference page to use a non-breaking hyphen between the chapter-page number building blocks. This will keep the page number from breaking at the column edge. * Change the spaces before and after "1" at the beginning of the LevelsIX prototype to a non-breaking space. This keeps the number with the last word of each entry. Experiment to see if multiple-word entries, or multiple page references work well with this. You might want to make only one of these spaces as non-breaking, depending on what's in your index. * Change the word-spacing settings for the Level*IX paragraphs in the Advanced properties of the paragraph designer to allow more squishing between words. Consider allowing more squishing even between letters. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Index Formatting Question
Rick and Sarah and Fred, Thanks! I made the hyphen a nonbreaking one (had to get the search term right though in Framemaker to figure out how - nonbreaking, not non-breaking! :-) And yep, Fred, as per comment, And you might also decrease the space between the entry text and the page number; in your little example it seems kind of excessive (although I know the example is not realistic...) so you're more likely to get breaking lines. it was not realistic, Just wanted to make sure that I visually got my point across in an email - sometimes, unless you exaggerate spaces in an email, they're not the obvious. Thanks again - just implemented the change and it works like a charm. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Index Formatting Question
Well, you can keep the 2-part page number from breaking in the middle by using a non-breaking hyphen as the separator character. The entry would still break across lines, but at least the break would be more logical. And you might also decrease the space between the entry text and the page number; in your little example it seems kind of excessive (although I know the example is not realistic...) so you're more likely to get breaking lines. Or you could go to a 2-column layout for the index rather than a 3-column layout. Unless the font is pretty small, 3-column indexes often look cramped to me. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:42 PM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Index Formatting Question I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels breaks across a line: Level 1 1-1 Level 22- 1 Level 3 3- 1 Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Index Formatting Question
Hi Tammy, Use a non-breaking hyphen as the separator in your page numbers. Then the whole page number will break together. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels breaks across a line: Level 1 1-1 Level 22- 1 Level 3 3- 1 Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Index Formatting Question
Hi Tammy, Change the separator to use a nonbreaking hyphen instead of a regular hyphen. This is in your IX reference page. You'll find something like this: <$chapnum>-<$pagenum> in the IndexIX line. Change the hyphen to a nonbreaking hyphen. Regards, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only > two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, > The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly > indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented > beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, > however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels > breaks across a line: > > Level 1 1-1 > Level 22- > 1 > Level 3 3- > 1 > > > Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of > manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a > plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something > like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option > to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and > I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. > > TIA, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Senior Technical Writer > Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. > 303-328-4420 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/okeefe%40scriptorium.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- ### Sarah O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scriptorium Publishing Services, Inc. http://www.scriptorium.com Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Index Formatting Question
I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels breaks across a line: Level 1 1-1 Level 22- 1 Level 3 3- 1 Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
