Looking for books on Frame template design

[Greg Thompson]

  Hi:

  I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using Frame.
  Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced
  intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :)

  I am going to DC to take class on XML, so naturally I am interested in Frame
  and XML. I read the reviews on Amazon of Kay Ethier's book XML and
  Framemaker and they seem very favorable. Has any one had any experience
  using this book? Is it suited for Frame 7.2? The reviewers seemed to like it
  because it gave an introduction to template design and Structured Frame.

  Thoughts?

  Thanks
   Greg Thompson
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Re: Looking for books on Frame template design

[Steve Rickaby]

At 20:21 -0800 28/1/07, Greg Thompson wrote:

  I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using Frame.
  Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced
  intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :)

It rather depends on what you mean by 'template design'. This has [very 
broadly] two aspects:

. The mechanistic material to do with using FrameMaker to create page and book 
designs

. The artistic side of good typographical design

For the former, I know of no more comprehensive book than 'FrameMaker 7, the 
Complete Reference', by Sarah O'Keefe and Sheila Loring. This has now been 
republished as 'Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7':

http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/dp/0881792063/sr=1-1/qid=1170077923/ref=sr_1_1/104-8255701-7763916?ie=UTF8s=books

For the artistic bit, there are probably zillions of books on good 
typographical design. I do not own it, as it was out of print when I wanted it, 
but 'Elements of Typographic Style' by Robert Bringhurst is highly spoken of:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0881792055/qid=1138270535/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-0443455-9144419

To paraphrase Artur Schnabel: 'The text I handle no better than many 
typesetters. But the spaces between the text - ah, that is where the art 
resides.' ;-)

-- 
Steve
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Re: Looking for books on Frame template design

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Greg:

Adobe has FrameMaker templates available on Adobe.com. Search Google for 
Adobe FrameMaker Templates Primer.


This link downloads the primer in PDF form: 
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/tempseries/pdfs/primer.pdf


This link goes to the template series of files: 
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/tempseries/


HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices



At 20:21 -0800 28/1/07, Greg Thompson wrote:

  

 I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using Frame.
 Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced
 intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :)



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Re: Looking for books on Frame template design

[Greg Thompson]

  Thanks Steve:

  I was thinking of the mechanistic aspects but thanks for broadening my
  horizon!


  Greg Thompson
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From: Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greg Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: Looking for books on Frame template design
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:39:04 +
At 20:21 -0800 28/1/07, Greg Thompson wrote:

  I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using
Frame.
  Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced
  intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :)

It rather depends on what you mean by 'template design'. This has [very
broadly] two aspects:

. The mechanistic material to do with using FrameMaker to create page and
book designs

. The artistic side of good typographical design

For the former, I know of no more comprehensive book than 'FrameMaker 7,
the Complete Reference', by Sarah O'Keefe and Sheila Loring. This has now
been republished as 'Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7':

http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/dp/08
81792063/sr=1-1/qid=1170077923/ref=sr_1_1/104-8255701-7763916?ie=UTF8s=bo
oks

For the artistic bit, there are probably zillions of books on good
typographical design. I do not own it, as it was out of print when I
wanted it, but 'Elements of Typographic Style' by Robert Bringhurst is
highly spoken of:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0881792055/qid=1138270535/sr=8-
1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-0443455-9144419

To paraphrase Artur Schnabel: 'The text I handle no better than many
typesetters. But the spaces between the text - ah, that is where the art
resides.' ;-)

--
Steve
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Re: Looking for books on Frame template design

[d . mossfritch]

Good Day Greg:

Are you looking for books dealing with unstructured template design? If so, 
Scriptorium has a workbook at 
http://store.scriptorium.com/items/workbooks/fm102-unstructured-framemaker-7-template-design-workbook-fm102wb-all-detail.htm
 which may be what you seek.

Best,

 Denise L. Moss-Fritch

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  At 20:21 -0800 28/1/07, Greg Thompson wrote: 
  
  
  I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using 
  Frame. 
  Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced 
  intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :) 
  
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Looking for books on Frame template design

[Steve Rickaby]

At 20:21 -0800 28/1/07, Greg Thompson wrote:

>  I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using Frame.
>  Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced
>  intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :)

It rather depends on what you mean by 'template design'. This has [very 
broadly] two aspects:

. The mechanistic material to do with using FrameMaker to create page and book 
designs

. The artistic side of good typographical design

For the former, I know of no more comprehensive book than 'FrameMaker 7, the 
Complete Reference', by Sarah O'Keefe and Sheila Loring. This has now been 
republished as 'Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7':



For the artistic bit, there are probably zillions of books on good 
typographical design. I do not own it, as it was out of print when I wanted it, 
but 'Elements of Typographic Style' by Robert Bringhurst is highly spoken of:



To paraphrase Artur Schnabel: 'The text I handle no better than many 
typesetters. But the spaces between the text - ah, that is where the art 
resides.' ;-)

-- 
Steve

Looking for books on Frame template design

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Greg:

Adobe has FrameMaker templates available on Adobe.com. Search Google for 
Adobe FrameMaker Templates Primer.

This link downloads the primer in PDF form: 
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/tempseries/pdfs/primer.pdf

This link goes to the template series of files: 
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/tempseries/

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices


> At 20:21 -0800 28/1/07, Greg Thompson wrote:
>
>   
>>  I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using Frame.
>>  Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced
>>  intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :)
>> 

Looking for books on Frame template design

[Greg Thompson]

   Thanks Steve:

   I was thinking of the mechanistic aspects but thanks for broadening my
   horizon!


   Greg Thompson
   __

 From: Steve Rickaby 
 To: "Greg Thompson" 
 CC: framers at FrameUsers.com
 Subject: Re: Looking for books on Frame template design
 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:39:04 +
 >At 20:21 -0800 28/1/07, Greg Thompson wrote:
 >
 > > I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using
 Frame.
 > > Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced
 > > intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :)
 >
 >It rather depends on what you mean by 'template design'. This has [very
 broadly] two aspects:
 >
 >. The mechanistic material to do with using FrameMaker to create page and
 book designs
 >
 >. The artistic side of good typographical design
 >
 >For the former, I know of no more comprehensive book than 'FrameMaker 7,
 the Complete Reference', by Sarah O'Keefe and Sheila Loring. This has now
 been republished as 'Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7':
 >
 ><http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/dp/08
 81792063/sr=1-1/qid=1170077923/ref=sr_1_1/104-8255701-7763916?ie=UTF8=bo
 oks>
 >
 >For the artistic bit, there are probably zillions of books on good
 typographical design. I do not own it, as it was out of print when I
 wanted it, but 'Elements of Typographic Style' by Robert Bringhurst is
 highly spoken of:
 >
 ><http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0881792055/qid=1138270535/sr=8-
 1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-0443455-9144419>
 >
 >To paraphrase Artur Schnabel: 'The text I handle no better than many
 typesetters. But the spaces between the text - ah, that is where the art
 resides.' ;-)
 >
 >--
 >Steve

Looking for books on Frame template design

[Greg Thompson]

   Hi:

   I have decided to take the plunge into learning template design using Frame.
   Any suggestions on books/tutorials to get out of the land advanced
   intermediate/user I have been stuck in for sometime? :)

   I am going to DC to take class on XML, so naturally I am interested in Frame
   and XML. I read the reviews on Amazon of Kay Ethier's book "XML and
   Framemaker" and they seem very favorable. Has any one had any experience
   using this book? Is it suited for Frame 7.2? The reviewers seemed to like it
   because it gave an introduction to template design and Structured Frame.

   Thoughts?

   Thanks
Greg Thompson