OT: Monitor for color correction
Mike: > At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but > that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose, > or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against > LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive. > Earlier LCD monitors used a fluorescent backlight. The LCD cells just act as variable transmission filters to let more or less backlight through the coloured filters. The newer LCD monitors have coloured individual backlights for each pixel, so that the light source is the correct colour to begin with. These have a wider gamut of colours, better contrast, and better black. You can probably set the colour temperature to the recommended D65 (6500K) with these more easily. Samsung had several quite cheap models here in Australia (prices won't extrapolate easily to USA) and most manufacturers have good models varying from cheap and adequate to expensive. Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel. +61 3 9809 1229 Fax. (call phone first) Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558 Email. "Hedley Finger"
OT: Monitor for color correction
Sorry everybody. The point I was trying to make that LCD/LED monitors have "individual LED backlights for each pixel". Because the LED is already a coloured primary light source of greater purity than a fluoro backlight + colour filter can produce, you get a greater gamut. And, because the LED can be turned off altogether, you can get better blacks. -- Hedley > Mike: > >> At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but >> that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose, >> or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against >> LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive. >> >> > Earlier LCD monitors used a fluorescent backlight. The LCD cells just > act as variable transmission filters to let more or less backlight > through the coloured filters. The newer LCD monitors have coloured > individual backlights for each pixel, so that the light source is the > correct colour to begin with. These have a wider gamut of colours, > better contrast, and better black. You can probably set the colour > temperature to the recommended D65 (6500K) with these more easily. > Samsung had several quite cheap models here in Australia (prices won't > extrapolate easily to USA) and most manufacturers have good models > varying from cheap and adequate to expensive. > Hedley Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel. +61 3 9809 1229 Fax. (call phone first) Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558 Email. "Hedley Finger"
OT: Monitor for color correction
Hi, all, I recently had the fun experience of having lightning strike. It blew out the phone and cable lines, and took out computers, all the network boxes, TVs, and lots of other electronic equipment. Some jacks were blown out of the walls and even knobs got blown off of a clothes dryer! One of the things that took a hit was my LaCie electron22blueIV monitor that I use for color correction of photos. It's not made anymore, so I'm looking to replace it with something else. Any suggestions? At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose, or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Monitor for color correction
I can't comment on the color-correctness of it .. but I recently bought a refurbished (by Apple) 20 Cinema Display, and *love* it. They go for $499 (free shipping) .. and come up from time to time on the Apple website. I needed to get a new display adapter that supported DVI (Radeon 9500 I believe, but am OOTO right now), but once all the pieces were in place it all just worked. I did some reading up on this and read about some horror stories of people trying to connect an Apple Cinema Display to a Windows PC .. and this adapter seems to work quite nicely. Cheers, ...scott Art Campbell wrote: I've been shopping too, although just fro general upgrade because my CRTs are near the end of their lives. The key thing to look for is an LCD that supports a wide color space -- as close to AdobeRGB (assuming that's your default) as possible. And also look at the menu controls -- not all LEDs have RGB color adjustments and if they don't, they can't be profiled. The LaCie 324 has gotten pretty good reviews and it's fairly cheap (about a grand), and Eizo, although they're pricier. There's a new 22 Dell ~$450 that's gotten decent reviews, but some people have complained about color shift across the screen; may just be new product bugs working out though. The Apple Cinemas are supposed to be pretty good also, and there's also an H-P that's pretty decent -- I have the model number written down at home, but it seems to be built on the same 22 base as the Dell -- specs seem to be about the same. Cheers, Art On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I recently had the fun experience of having lightning strike. It blew out the phone and cable lines, and took out computers, all the network boxes, TVs, and lots of other electronic equipment. Some jacks were blown out of the walls and even knobs got blown off of a clothes dryer! One of the things that took a hit was my LaCie electron22blueIV monitor that I use for color correction of photos. It's not made anymore, so I'm looking to replace it with something else. Any suggestions? At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose, or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive. Mike Wickham ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Monitor for color correction
Hi, all, I recently had the fun experience of having lightning strike. It blew out the phone and cable lines, and took out computers, all the network boxes, TVs, and lots of other electronic equipment. Some jacks were blown out of the walls and even knobs got blown off of a clothes dryer! One of the things that took a hit was my LaCie electron22blueIV monitor that I use for color correction of photos. It's not made anymore, so I'm looking to replace it with something else. Any suggestions? At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose, or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive. Mike Wickham
OT: Monitor for color correction
I've been shopping too, although just fro general upgrade because my CRTs are near the end of their lives. The key thing to look for is an LCD that supports a wide color space -- as close to AdobeRGB (assuming that's your default) as possible. And also look at the menu controls -- not all LEDs have RGB color adjustments and if they don't, they can't be profiled. The LaCie 324 has gotten pretty good reviews and it's fairly cheap (about a grand), and Eizo, although they're pricier. There's a new 22" Dell ~$450 that's gotten decent reviews, but some people have complained about color shift across the screen; may just be new product bugs working out though. The Apple Cinemas are supposed to be pretty good also, and there's also an H-P that's pretty decent -- I have the model number written down at home, but it seems to be built on the same 22" base as the Dell -- specs seem to be about the same. Cheers, Art On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: > Hi, all, > > I recently had the fun experience of having lightning strike. It blew out > the phone and cable lines, and took out computers, all the network boxes, > TVs, and lots of other electronic equipment. Some jacks were blown out of > the walls and even knobs got blown off of a clothes dryer! > > One of the things that took a hit was my LaCie electron22blueIV monitor that > I use for color correction of photos. It's not made anymore, so I'm looking > to replace it with something else. Any suggestions? > > At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but > that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose, > or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against > LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive. > > Mike Wickham > > > ___ > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
OT: Monitor for color correction
I can't comment on the color-correctness of it .. but I recently bought a "refurbished" (by Apple) 20" Cinema Display, and *love* it. They go for $499 (free shipping) .. and come up from time to time on the Apple website. I needed to get a new display adapter that supported DVI (Radeon 9500 I believe, but am OOTO right now), but once all the pieces were in place it all "just worked". I did some reading up on this and read about some horror stories of people trying to connect an Apple Cinema Display to a Windows PC .. and this adapter seems to work quite nicely. Cheers, ...scott Art Campbell wrote: > I've been shopping too, although just fro general upgrade because my > CRTs are near the end of their lives. The key thing to look for is an > LCD that supports a wide color space -- as close to AdobeRGB (assuming > that's your default) as possible. And also look at the menu controls > -- not all LEDs have RGB color adjustments and if they don't, they > can't be profiled. > > The LaCie 324 has gotten pretty good reviews and it's fairly cheap > (about a grand), and Eizo, although they're pricier. There's a new 22" > Dell ~$450 that's gotten decent reviews, but some people have > complained about color shift across the screen; may just be new > product bugs working out though. The Apple Cinemas are supposed to be > pretty good also, and there's also an H-P that's pretty decent -- I > have the model number written down at home, but it seems to be built > on the same 22" base as the Dell -- specs seem to be about the same. > > Cheers, > Art > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Mike Wickham > wrote: > >> Hi, all, >> >> I recently had the fun experience of having lightning strike. It blew out >> the phone and cable lines, and took out computers, all the network boxes, >> TVs, and lots of other electronic equipment. Some jacks were blown out of >> the walls and even knobs got blown off of a clothes dryer! >> >> One of the things that took a hit was my LaCie electron22blueIV monitor that >> I use for color correction of photos. It's not made anymore, so I'm looking >> to replace it with something else. Any suggestions? >> >> At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but >> that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose, >> or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against >> LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive. >> >> Mike Wickham >> >> >> ___ >> >> > > > >