Publisher to Frame Conversion
My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to Frame. She is thinking that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? Howar Rauch Technology Transfer, Inc. Linking Creators and Users of Technology 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-0080 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Publisher to Frame Conversion
Without knowing all the ins and outs of Publisher... for text: If Publisher can save files as RTF, that would be the easiest way to go. If it can't, I'd PDF the files and export from PDF to RTF. Then open the RTF file in Frame and copy-and-paste all into a clean empty FM template file (so that you don't put the residual para and character formats forward). I don't know anything about how Publisher handles graphics if the source graphic files are outside the publisher environment, you're all set -- just bring them into the FM file. Art On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Howard Rauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to Frame. She is thinking that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? Howar Rauch Technology Transfer, Inc. Linking Creators and Users of Technology 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-0080 ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Publisher to Frame Conversion
I don't have hands-on experience with this, but I would look into: Publisher - RTF - Frame Publisher - Text - Frame Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to Frame. She is thinking that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? Howar Rauch Technology Transfer, Inc. Linking Creators and Users of Technology 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-0080 ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Publisher to Frame Conversion
-Original Message- Without knowing all the ins and outs of Publisher... for text: If Publisher can save files as RTF, that would be the easiest way to go. If it can't, I'd PDF the files and export from PDF to RTF. Unfortunately, the RTF output from PDF in Adobe Acrobat, results in quite a mess inside FrameMaker, in my experience. Not surprising, I suppose! I have had way, WAY better luck by using PDF Convertor Pro (www.scansoft.com, as I recall) to bring the PDF file into Word, and then outputting the RTF from Word, and reading into FrameMaker. Still not perfect (lots of cleanup still required!), but superior to any other way ... Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Publisher to Frame Conversion
Markzware offers a Publisher-to-InDesign converter. Not sure if it will help, but it's worth a look. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Howard Rauch My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to Frame. She is thinking that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Publisher-to-Frame Conversion
I think the salient question, Howard, may be this: From where are the Publisher documents getting their content? After all, Publisher is a page-layout program, and, unlike Frame, isn't really designed for both writing text and laying it out in the same application. I know of few Publisher users who actually write their content from within Publisher. Publisher works quite smoothly with Word, and chances are that the content of the Publisher files was written in Word or a similar application. If so, obtaining the Word files avoids some of the steps previously discussed. The art of preparing Word documents for Frame is, of course, a process in itself -- but a search of the archives will give you some good resources for how to approach it. Similarly, those graphic files others have mentioned as embedded in Publisher -- they had to come from somewhere. When I do a newsletter in Publisher, for instance, I import my graphics from a folder where I've already done my post-processing and stored the images. Ideally, then, you'll be able to locate the original document(s) and graphics files. If so, then your task of bringing them into Frame is much more straightforward. Otherwise, you may have to turn to the plug-ins or copy-paste routines aforementioned. Don't be misled: No matter how you slice it, this is a time-consuming process. It may be worth asking the client why this conversion is their intent. If it's part of a massive conversion to Frame and there are legacy documents that will be maintained in Frame going forward, it might make sense. But it's least worth admitting that, without good reason, the conversion may not be worth it. Then there's the question of playing to the strength of the tools. Frame is great for long documents; but there are situations where Publisher is a very viable solution. At the risk of rousing the sleeping MS bashers among us on this quiet Friday afternoon, I'll say that after more than a decade of doing newsletters, I'd much prefer to do a newsletter in Publisher than I would in Frame. (And, yes, I know there are newsletter templates for Frame, and it's possible to do decent-looking newsletters in Frame). If it were between Publisher and Indy or Quark, that would be a different matter. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rauch Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:35 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Publisher to Frame Conversion My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to Frame. She is thinking that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? Howar Rauch Technology Transfer, Inc. Linking Creators and Users of Technology 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-0080 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Publisher to Frame Conversion
My client is?intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to Frame.?She is thinking that the firm will have to cut?in?Publisher, paste into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? Howar Rauch ? Technology Transfer, Inc. "Linking Creators and Users of Technology" 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-0080
Publisher to Frame Conversion
Without knowing all the ins and outs of Publisher... for text: If Publisher can save files as RTF, that would be the easiest way to go. If it can't, I'd PDF the files and export from PDF to RTF. Then open the RTF file in Frame and copy-and-paste all into a clean empty FM template file (so that you don't put the residual para and character formats forward). I don't know anything about how Publisher handles graphics if the source graphic files are outside the publisher environment, you're all set -- just bring them into the FM file. Art On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Howard Rauch wrote: > My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to > Frame. She is thinking that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste > into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? > Howar Rauch > > Technology Transfer, Inc. > "Linking Creators and Users of Technology" > 933 North 18th Street > Manitowoc WI 54220 > Office: 920-682-1528 > Cell: 920-629-0080 > ___ > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Publisher to Frame Conversion
> -Original Message- > My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to Frame. She is thinking > that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? I have seen a few response suggest trying RTF output from Publisher. Unfortunately, this does *not* work. Publisher (even in Office 2007) simply does not create good RTF output (only text is output ... graphics, tables, etc., all disappear). FrameMaker has *no* chance of getting it right from that RTF - nor does Word 2007 for that matter! What has come even remotely close for me, but still needs a *lot* of cleanup, is: 1. Print the Publisher document as a PDF file (I use Adobe Acrobat Pro ...) 2. Use PDFConvertor Pro (version 4 works better than before) to bring that PDF file into Word - reasonable semblance of the original. 3. Save the Word file as an RTF. 4. Import the RTf into FrameMaker, keeping your fingers crossed. Warning: this above is not perfect ... lots of cleanup is still needed. If the Publisher document is remotely complicated (lots of graphics or pictures, clipart, etc.), the result is still quite poor. BTW, Word cannot read Publisher files directly. Pathetic ... Z
Publisher to Frame Conversion
> -Original Message- > Without knowing all the ins and outs of Publisher... for text: > If Publisher can save files as RTF, that would be the easiest way to go. > If it can't, I'd PDF the files and export from PDF to RTF. Unfortunately, the RTF output from PDF in Adobe Acrobat, results in quite a mess inside FrameMaker, in my experience. Not surprising, I suppose! I have had way, WAY better luck by using PDF Convertor Pro (www.scansoft.com, as I recall) to bring the PDF file into Word, and then outputting the RTF from Word, and reading into FrameMaker. Still not perfect (lots of cleanup still required!), but superior to any other way ... Z
Publisher to Frame Conversion
Markzware offers a Publisher-to-InDesign converter. Not sure if it will help, but it's worth a look. > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Howard Rauch >> My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to >> Frame. She is thinking that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste >> into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Publisher-to-Frame Conversion
I think the salient question, Howard, may be this: From where are the Publisher documents getting their content? After all, Publisher is a page-layout program, and, unlike Frame, isn't really designed for both writing text and laying it out in the same application. I know of few Publisher users who actually write their content from within Publisher. Publisher works quite smoothly with Word, and chances are that the content of the Publisher files was written in Word or a similar application. If so, obtaining the Word files avoids some of the steps previously discussed. The art of preparing Word documents for Frame is, of course, a process in itself -- but a search of the archives will give you some good resources for how to approach it. Similarly, those graphic files others have mentioned as embedded in Publisher -- they had to come from somewhere. When I do a newsletter in Publisher, for instance, I import my graphics from a folder where I've already done my post-processing and stored the images. Ideally, then, you'll be able to locate the original document(s) and graphics files. If so, then your task of bringing them into Frame is much more straightforward. Otherwise, you may have to turn to the plug-ins or copy-paste routines aforementioned. Don't be misled: No matter how you slice it, this is a time-consuming process. It may be worth asking the client why this conversion is their intent. If it's part of a massive conversion to Frame and there are legacy documents that will be maintained in Frame going forward, it might make sense. But it's least worth admitting that, without good reason, the conversion may not be worth it. Then there's the question of playing to the strength of the tools. Frame is great for long documents; but there are situations where Publisher is a very viable solution. At the risk of rousing the sleeping MS bashers among us on this quiet Friday afternoon, I'll say that after more than a decade of doing newsletters, I'd much prefer to do a newsletter in Publisher than I would in Frame. (And, yes, I know there are newsletter templates for Frame, and it's possible to do decent-looking newsletters in Frame). If it were between Publisher and Indy or Quark, that would be a different matter. Jim -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Howard Rauch Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:35 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Publisher to Frame Conversion My client is?intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to Frame.?She is thinking that the firm will have to cut?in?Publisher, paste into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? Howar Rauch ? Technology Transfer, Inc. "Linking Creators and Users of Technology" 933 North 18th Street Manitowoc WI 54220 Office: 920-682-1528 Cell: 920-629-0080 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
