Re: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-20 Thread Carrie Baker
Thanks,
that was the sort of thing I hoped existed!

On 2/19/08, Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Carrie Baker wrote:

  Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text
  that appears in the cross reference is something that I type
  in, and not the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say
  xy statistics, even though the header it jumps to is called
  Displaying xy statistics)?

 Well, others have suggested workarounds/kludges to let you do it with
 xrefs. But the simpler solution is to use hyperlinks instead of xrefs.
 Here's how:

 1) Open the Hypertext dialog (Special  Hypertext). It's non-modal and
 can stay open throughout the process.

 2) Put your cursor in the Displaying XY Statistics Heading 2 (I
 recommend always putting the destination markers at the beginning of the
 destination pgfs, but that's up to you).

 3) In the Hypertext dialog, set Command to Specify Named Destination.
 The word newlink appears in the box below. Add a unique, meaningful
 name for this destination, such as xy, so that the box contains
 newlink xy (sans quotes). Then click New Hypertext Marker. FM puts a
 marker symbol (T) at your cursor position.

 4) Now go to where you want the list of screens. Enter the screen name
 XY Statistics, highlight the text, and apply a character format that
 gives it your xref/hyperlink appearance (blue underlined, or whatever).

 5) With XY Statistics still highlighted (or the cursor somewhere in
 it), go to the Hypertext dialog and set Command to Jump to Named
 Destination. The word gotolink appears in the box below. Add the name
 you gave the destination marker (xy) so that the box contains
 gotolink xy (sans quotes). Click New Hypertext Marker.

 That's it. If the Validate check box was selected (the default), FM will
 inform you if it couldn't find the named destination (usually because
 you misremembered or mistyped the marker text you entered in step 3).
 Otherwise, you can test your new hyperlink by holding down the Ctrl and
 Alt keys while you click the link.

 Once you've done one, it'll take less time to do the next ten than it
 took to read this long-winded procedure. :-)

 HTH!
 Richard


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Re: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Stuart Rogers
Carrie Baker wrote:
 Frame 7.2
 I am documenting an application with all sorts of reports that can be
 generated and displayed by selecting the appropriate screen in a
 dialog box.
 Each sort of report is described in the documentation with a  heading
 2 that used to say The xy Statistics screen and explains what you do
 with it and available options, explains the meaning of the parameters
 they see etc.
 Now I would like to call all of the headings Displaying Xy
 Statistics, Displaying z statistics etc.
 The FrameMaker problem I am encountering is that originally at the
 beginning of the section someone had written, the following screens
 are available and had a list of cross references to all of the titles
 which were each called xy screen etc.
 Now I have changed the title the cross reference to these headings
 will say, the following statistics can be displayed, and say for each
 cross reference Displaying xy statistics etc.
 I like this list of cross reference as when I convert the files to
 help, they are my hyperlinks, as well as the fact that we distribute
 the documentation as PDFs.
 The question is:
 Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text that
 appears in the cross reference is something that I type in, and not
 the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say xy statistics, even
 though the header it jumps to is called Displaying xy statistics)?
 thanks


I'm not entirely confident I understand your question, but I'll have a 
go at it...

You have a lot of headings of the pattern Displaying xy statistics and 
you want cross references of the pattern xy statistics.  Yes?  You 
could change the headings to have an autonumber of Displaying  and in 
your cross-ref format, use the $paratext building block.  Elsewhere if 
you want the full heading referenced, use $paranum$paratext.

HTH,

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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

If it makes things work more easily, why isn't it called lubrican?
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RE: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Combs, Richard
Carrie Baker wrote:

 Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text 
 that appears in the cross reference is something that I type 
 in, and not the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say 
 xy statistics, even though the header it jumps to is called 
 Displaying xy statistics)?

Well, others have suggested workarounds/kludges to let you do it with
xrefs. But the simpler solution is to use hyperlinks instead of xrefs.
Here's how: 

1) Open the Hypertext dialog (Special  Hypertext). It's non-modal and
can stay open throughout the process. 

2) Put your cursor in the Displaying XY Statistics Heading 2 (I
recommend always putting the destination markers at the beginning of the
destination pgfs, but that's up to you). 

3) In the Hypertext dialog, set Command to Specify Named Destination.
The word newlink appears in the box below. Add a unique, meaningful
name for this destination, such as xy, so that the box contains
newlink xy (sans quotes). Then click New Hypertext Marker. FM puts a
marker symbol (T) at your cursor position.

4) Now go to where you want the list of screens. Enter the screen name
XY Statistics, highlight the text, and apply a character format that
gives it your xref/hyperlink appearance (blue underlined, or whatever). 

5) With XY Statistics still highlighted (or the cursor somewhere in
it), go to the Hypertext dialog and set Command to Jump to Named
Destination. The word gotolink appears in the box below. Add the name
you gave the destination marker (xy) so that the box contains
gotolink xy (sans quotes). Click New Hypertext Marker. 

That's it. If the Validate check box was selected (the default), FM will
inform you if it couldn't find the named destination (usually because
you misremembered or mistyped the marker text you entered in step 3).
Otherwise, you can test your new hyperlink by holding down the Ctrl and
Alt keys while you click the link. 

Once you've done one, it'll take less time to do the next ten than it
took to read this long-winded procedure. :-)

HTH!
Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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Re: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Carrie Baker
What clever ideas you both have had.
thanks very much

On 2/19/08, Peter Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, Carrie and Steve:

 To extend Steve's suggestion a bit:

 If you always want to ignore the lead in word or phrase, whatever it
 may be, in the cross-reference - sometimes displaying the ,
 sometimes defining an , sometimes brewing with a , etc - consider
 constructing these headings with two paragraph formats. Define a
 run-in paragraph format for the introductory word or phrase, and an
 in-column (normal) paragraph format for the following part. In other
 words, construct the headings of several paragraphs as building
 blocks, so you can cross-reference to each one individually.

 Example:
 Run-in paragraph format part1intro: The wonderful world of the
 Run-in paragraph format part2topicname xy statistics
 Run-in paragraph format itemname screen
 In-column paragraph format bodyafterhead: is better than sliced
 bread. Just try these features, blah blah

 The $paratext building block of a cross-reference that points to a
 part2topicname paragraph retrieves xy statistics, in the above
 example.

 With care, you can a number of consecutive run-in paragraphs for this
 kind of pin-point cross-reference retrieval.

 OK?

 HTH

 Regards,

 Peter
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 On Feb 19, 2008 11:38 AM, Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Carrie Baker wrote:
   Frame 7.2
   I am documenting an application with all sorts of reports that can be
   generated and displayed by selecting the appropriate screen in a
   dialog box.
   Each sort of report is described in the documentation with a  heading
   2 that used to say The xy Statistics screen and explains what you do
   with it and available options, explains the meaning of the parameters
   they see etc.
   Now I would like to call all of the headings Displaying Xy
   Statistics, Displaying z statistics etc.
   The FrameMaker problem I am encountering is that originally at the
   beginning of the section someone had written, the following screens
   are available and had a list of cross references to all of the titles
   which were each called xy screen etc.
   Now I have changed the title the cross reference to these headings
   will say, the following statistics can be displayed, and say for each
   cross reference Displaying xy statistics etc.
   I like this list of cross reference as when I convert the files to
   help, they are my hyperlinks, as well as the fact that we distribute
   the documentation as PDFs.
   The question is:
   Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text that
   appears in the cross reference is something that I type in, and not
   the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say xy statistics, even
   though the header it jumps to is called Displaying xy statistics)?
   thanks
 
 
  I'm not entirely confident I understand your question, but I'll have a
  go at it...
 
  You have a lot of headings of the pattern Displaying xy statistics and
  you want cross references of the pattern xy statistics.  Yes?  You
  could change the headings to have an autonumber of Displaying  and in
  your cross-ref format, use the $paratext building block.  Elsewhere if
  you want the full heading referenced, use $paranum$paratext.
 



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Re: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:01:21 +0200, Carrie Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text that
appears in the cross reference is something that I type in, and not
the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say xy statistics, even
though the header it jumps to is called Displaying xy statistics)?

The simplest way to do that is to use hyperlinks instead of 
cross-references.  First put a hypertext newlink marker in the
destination paragraph, with a unique name for the para.  Put a 
hypertext gotolink marker with the same name in the referencing 
paragraph at the text you want to use as the hotspot.  Apply 
a character format to the hotspot text, including the gotolink 
marker.  Then the hotspot text will act like a cross-reference
in your PDF or HTML output.
-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/
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