RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Peter Hirons
I frequently hit this problem, but my solution is to define a custom paper size of 8.25 x 11 inches. This will print on both paper sizes without problems and means you don't have the problems of making things fit. Peter From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Writer
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11, and the other is A4. Both can contain all other attributes (paragraph styles, character styles, colour definitions, etc). Apply the first

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-02-21-04T17:00Z Lisa - I agree with Nadine's first recommendation, which is what we have done here. Preparing for this process emphasizes that less is [or fewer are] more. Wield Ockham's Razor judiciously, of not ruthlessly. For _full_ benefit, I highly recommend that you

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-02-21-04T17:20Z Regarding my earlier response to Lise's posting. I expressed only my own professional opinions and not those of my employer. I have no interest in MicroType other than being a satisfied customer. Regards, Dave Stamm From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Alison Craig
:44 AM To: Lise Bible; Post Framers Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book? You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11, and the other is A4. Both can

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Alan T Litchfield
:* Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM *To:* Lise Bible; Post Framers *Subject:* Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book? You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Framers Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book? You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11, and the other is A4. Both can contain all other

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Writer
What if you also had to switch from US to UK spelling when you switched from Letter to A4? What would be the most straightforward way to handle that? The only thing I can think of is conditional text. But you can include your condition settings in the template. Nadine

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Peter Hirons
: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:11 PM To: Writer; Lise Bible; Post Framers Subject: RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book? Here's a what if scenario

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Alison Craig
; Post Framers Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book? What if you also had to switch from US to UK spelling when you switched from Letter to A4? What would be the most straightforward way to handle that? The only thing I can think of is conditional text. But you

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Alison Craig wrote: Also, does anyone know the equivalent custom paper size fudge for switching between Tabloid (11x17) and the closest European paper size? European A3 is the closest to US Tabloid. As I recall, it is slightly wider (just under two centimeters) and slightly shorter (just over

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Alison Craig
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM To: Lise Bible; Post Framers Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book? You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate from the book and separate from each

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Writer
I agree that Nadine’s suggestion of two templates is probably best if you have time to work through each document every time you change to check that there aren’t any unfortunate page breaks.  Sensible use of “keep with next” instead of hard “top of page” settings can help of course. Yes,

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Writer
I know printed copies from PDFs are almost quaint these days snip Call me a Luddite, but I don't agree. This article is a bit old, but I think it still holds true:  http://www.booklistonline.com/The-Manley-Arts-The-Cockroach-Will-Manley/pid=5390998 Nadine

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 21/02/2013 10:57 AM, Lise Bible wrote: I have a manual (I'm on Frame 8) in which I've used conditional text to show/hide tables, text, parts lists depending on if it's for the American market or European. This manual originated for a US-made product so it started life with 8.5x11 (US-letter

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread LGLists
Lise, Years ago, a colleague suggested that I set up all projects to work with both A4 paper and US letter 8.5 x 11 paper by setting the page size to Custom with the width to 8.26 and the height to 11. As far as I know, this works, and you don't have to switch back and forth. You'll have a

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Grant Hogarth
Hello Lise; There are two (IMO) better solutions than two full books. One is to use a universal page (11.5 x 7.5 in ) --short enough to fit on US Letter; narrow enough for A4. The downside is that you will end up with extra white space (LR on US, TB on A4). OTOH, you can print the PDF

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Grant Hogarth
Doh! Peter is correct about the page dimensions. Sufficient coffee evidently has not reached neurons yet. Grant On 2/21/2013 9:35 AM, Peter Hirons wrote: I frequently hit this problem, but my solution is to define a custom paper size of 8.25 x 11 inches. This will print on both paper sizes

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Robert Lauriston
Create two sets of master page definitions and import the one you want? On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Lise Bible rentagoodb...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a good way to switch back and forth between A4 and 8.5x11 page sizes, depending on which version of a book you want to print?

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Robert Lauriston
A3 is 11.693 x 16.535. Brits are used to putting up with American English in technical documentation, but if you had to deliver two versions, it would probably be most efficient to handle one as a translation. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello All While I agree about the use of two templates, there's a more philosophical aspect to this that has not been mentioned. When we talk about page size, we refer to the physical paper on which a document will be printed. But a more important consideration from an aesthetic point of

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread rebecca officer
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book? You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11, and the other is A4. Both can contain all other attributes (paragraph

RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

2013-02-21 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:44 PM To: Lise Bible; Post Framers Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book? You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files