Re: FrameMaker graphics question

2014-06-02 Thread Heiko Haida 
 

Hi Ken, 

in FM 12 you can define object formats which can be used along with the
import of graphics. (Maybe this is also possible in FM 11...). 

So, with activated option "use object style", you would automatically
apply a pre-defined format to the graphic, lets say a 0.5pt line and
runaround options = zero. 

About the tables: 

You may use an anchored frame as before and first put a text frame
inside filling it 100% (width). This text frame could hold any table you
want. And btw: A table can have a title at the bottom, so there is no
need to have a second row. You could display the figure no. as redefined
table no., which would go along with the table format (and para format
used here) automatically. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Ken Poshedly: 

> I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't see 
> my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and that 
> just doesn't work for me,
> 
> We produce operator and other manuals for a heavy equipment manufacturing 
> company using FrameMaker 11.0 on a Windows XP plaform.
> 
> 1. Is there a way to force a certain width line border around all imported 
> graphics as they are brought in?
> 
> 2. Is there a more "elegant" way to insert a sequential figure number than 
> how my company currently does it?
> 
> Background for question 1:
> The procedure here for inserting images is to first insert a right-aligned 
> anchored frame 3.25 in. wide. That frame is set to "Run into Paragraph" and 
> as already stated, "Right Aligned"; it is anchored to its procedural text to 
> the left, so if its procedural text is deleted or moved, that anchored frame 
> goes with it. 
> 
> I then import by reference an subject image inside that anchored frame, scale 
> it to 2.75 in. wide and then right-align it inside that anchored frame. (The 
> height of the subject image, of course, then dictates the height of the 
> anchored frame, but that's no problem.) That leaves a 0.50 inch margin 
> between the left side of the subject image and the left side of the anchored 
> frame.
> 
> The reason for the anchored frame, by the way, is to artificially force the 
> procedural text for that subject graphic into a one-column format. Yes, I'm 
> one of the few who still believes that a true two-column format should be 
> used throughout a book (whether or not there are images on the right), but my 
> NOT tech writing or page layout-sophisticated supervisor believes all white 
> space on a page needs to be used. Thus, most pages wind up with a mix of 
> one-column and two-column layouts. (Those paragraphs not accompanied by a 
> graphic are full-page-width, while those paragraphs with a graphic are 
> artificially left-column-width. Pretty sloppy to my way of thinking.)
> 
> Anyway . . . after importing, positioning and scaling the subject image as 
> described above, I left-click on it (the image, not the anchored frame) and 
> use the Graphics toolbox icons to select a solid black border that is 0.5 pt 
> in width because all images (referenced or embedded) import "naked" (with no 
> line border). 
> 
> So CAN a line border with a predefined width be set so we don't have to do it 
> for every image? (Of course anchored frames with images that are used 
> repeatedly are simply copied and pasted wherever required and they retain 
> their size and border attributes.)
> 
> Background for question 2:
> 
> After the image is imported, positioned, sized and "bordered", a small text 
> box is also placed inside the anchored frame but directly below the subject 
> image and left-aligned with its left border. The empty paragraph marker 
> within that little text box is then tagged "section graphic counter"; it is 
> set to then automatically display the word "Fig." and the applicable chapter 
> and sequential figure number separated by a hyphen. For example, "Fig. 1-2". 
> Surely you get the idea.
> 
> That little text box is a problem because one has to eyeball its placement to 
> make sure it's not too close and not too far from its subject graphic and 
> that it is perfectly left-aligned with the left border of its subject 
> graphic. Then the subject graphic's runaround props must be set to "Do not 
> runaround" or else no graphic counter text appears inside the little text 
> box.What a damn pain in the . . .!
> 
> Note that we do also use full-page-width images and in those cases, I simply 
> insert a two-row, single-column table, stretch it to full-page-width, import 
> and center the image into the top row (or "cell"), tag the empty paragraph 
> marker inside row 2 as "section graphic counter" and the result is as 
> described above (left-aligned text with "Fig. 1-2" or whatever), but without 
> having to create another funky little text box.
> 
> I toyed with creating a one-column, two-row, right-aligned table to use this 
> method for single-column-width graphics, but FrameMaker doesn't allow text to 
> the left of a table (a

Re: FrameMaker graphics question

2014-06-02 Thread Robert Lauriston 
Have you tried defining an object style (new feature in FM11)?

http://blog.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-11-a-first-look-at-object-styles/

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Ken Poshedly  wrote:
> 1. Is there a way to force a certain width line border around all imported
> graphics as they are brought in?
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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

2011-08-11 Thread Shmuel Wolfson 
Thanks Mike. That was the problem. I inserted the graphic inside the 
text frame on the master page. When I inserted it outside the text frame 
it worked.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson


On 8/11/2011 5:14 PM, Mike Wickham wrote:
Schmuel, you are on the right path, but it sounds like you clicked 
inside the text box on the master page before you imported the 
graphic. Click outside the text box before you import the graphic.


This is probably something you already know, but if this document is 
designed for printing press, don't forget to make the background 
graphic "bleed." Make it slightly larger than the page size-- 
typically 1/8'' extra on all sides, then set the offset  top and left 
to -0.125" to center it. This allows for variance when the pages are 
cut, so that no white border appears in the final print.


Mike Wickham

On 8/11/2011 8:41 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire 
page, then write text on top of it.


I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the 
body page.


Any ideas?

I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the 
text in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?





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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

2011-08-11 Thread Mike Wickham 
Schmuel, you are on the right path, but it sounds like you clicked 
inside the text box on the master page before you imported the graphic. 
Click outside the text box before you import the graphic.


This is probably something you already know, but if this document is 
designed for printing press, don't forget to make the background graphic 
"bleed." Make it slightly larger than the page size-- typically 1/8'' 
extra on all sides, then set the offset  top and left to -0.125" to 
center it. This allows for variance when the pages are cut, so that no 
white border appears in the final print.


Mike Wickham

On 8/11/2011 8:41 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire 
page, then write text on top of it.


I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the 
body page.


Any ideas?

I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the 
text in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?





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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Rickaby 
At 16:41 +0300 11/8/11, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

>I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire page, 
>then write text on top of it.
>
>I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the body page.
>
>Any ideas?

Should work ok. Obvious question: is the body page you are looking at the one 
that uses the master page with the graphic? ;-)

>I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the text in 
>text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?

I'm not sure that there's a right way, but that's certainly a valid way to do 
it. It all depends on how you want the text to behave, flow/not flow, etc.

Just in case I've missed something, I've just done what you suggest and it 
works ok here. I used an all-black background on the master page and white text 
in the text frame on the body page.

The only problem you may encounter is in printing a page that contains 
edge-to-edge graphics, as many printers cannot print right to the edge of a 
page. PDFs should be fine though.

-- 
Steve
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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

2011-08-11 Thread Waltermeyer, Brenda L. 
Hi Shmuel,

Just a thought, when you inserted the graphic on the master page do you
select it the box to insert as background?





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On 8/11/11 9:41 AM, "Shmuel Wolfson"  wrote:

>I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire
>page, then write text on top of it.
>
>I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the
>body page.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the text
>in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?
>
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Shmuel Wolfson
>
>
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