RE: Text reflows when converting to PDF
When you change to the non-PDF printer you will get a message saying that the text may reflow. But the thing to do when you want to print to the printer is just print to PDF and then send your PDF to the printer from Acrobat. That way you won't get any surprises. Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Karen Robbins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:46 PM To: De Rosier, Edward Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Text reflows when converting to PDF Hi Ed, This may have been it! I had unchecked that system/document font box, but never expected that I would have to keep doing it. We'll have to see if it lasts the day or requires constant re-unchecking. The latest PDF looks exactly like the earlier print version and current screen view. I have also changed my Windows default printer to Adobe PDF; it remains to be seen what happens when I need to use a physical printer. Users shouldn't have to keep resetting this stuff. Ideally the choice should stick with the document, or at least the application should remember everything you set until you change it. Thanks for the tip! Best, Karen At 3:45 PM + 7/2/12, De Rosier, Edward wrote: Hi Karen, My writing group also prints from FrameMaker to PostScript and then distills to PDF. When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click the printer Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties button. In the Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog box, under the Adobe PDF Settings tab, a check box is available and states: Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro. Each time I start FrameMaker for the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that I print to PostScript. For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and Adobe PDF printer remember my choice. In other applications (printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to uncheck that box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer. I do not know of any way to set the default to have that box unchecked. This is an annoyance in the current writing software within my work group. This is all speculation that your print sequence may include a change of fonts that may affect your text flow and word wrapping. That may not be your problem, but it is worth checking. Best Regards, Ed DeRosier MMD Technical Publications Anritsu Company Morgan Hill, California ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
On 02/07/2012 3:23 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: There are two places (at least!) where that option can be set: At least is right! -- The Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog (where you guys changed it via File Print Setup in FM). I believe that setting persists only during the current FM session. -- The Adobe PDF Printing Preferences dialog. This is the place where you make that setting the default so that it persists (so long as the setting in Document Properties doesn't override it). To change the latter: 1) Go to Start Devices and Printers (Win 7) or Start Printers and Faxes (Win XP). 2) Right-click Adobe PDF and select Printing Preferences. 3) On the Adobe PDF Settings tab of the Printing Preferences dialog, turn off Rely on system fonts only and click OK. Two more places to (if necessary) clear that checkbox: In step 2 above, right-click and select Printer Properties General tab Preferences; then also click the Advanced tab Printing Defaults. A better alternative, IMHO, is to install Sundorne's free SetPrint plugin (http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm). It automatically makes Adobe PDF your printer in FM without requiring you to change your system default printer. Highly recommended -- and the price is right. :-) I second this recommendation, and also that of another poster who advised printing everything to PDF first, then printing the PDF to your physical printer. A lot of problems go away if you just follow that practice. Best regards, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Thanks, Framers, for great explanations and resources. I have now set the Adobe PDF default printer and unchecked that system fonts box in both locations. Note: The box remained unchecked in Frame's Print Setup dialog when I booted up this morning, and even when I switched to and from a physical printer. Yay! But I can't rely on printing only from PDF. --Without changing settings, a PDF often prints slightly smaller than the original. That's insignificant for most users of the finished PDF. But when type is already at 7 point, any smaller makes reading/proofing even more difficult. If I want to check a measurement, that inadvertent reduction might make it incorrect. Changing settings takes more time than using a physical printer. --While distilling runs much more smoothly these days than it used to, I don't always want to take the time for those extra steps just to get a hard copy. --PDF conversion mangles some obscure formulas/symbols no matter what work-arounds I employ. I need to see them correct at least once--my physical printer has no problem with them. (But who knows, maybe the font box issue will resolve that, too!) --My physical printer works perfectly for me in every other instance. Plus it has stunning output that is slightly reduced in quality if I print from the PDF. Again, most people wouldn't notice, but I do. Thanks again everyone, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Karen, Regarding the first --, you can set the pdf print setting to actual size (as your regular printer is probably already set to). It sounds like your other issues make the non-PDF option palatable. For those of us who have to print predictably onto labels or have our cross references always refer to the correct page, the PDF option works best. Craig Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:38:29 -0700 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com From: karendes...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF Thanks, Framers, for great explanations and resources. I have now set the Adobe PDF default printer and unchecked that system fonts box in both locations. Note: The box remained unchecked in Frame's Print Setup dialog when I booted up this morning, and even when I switched to and from a physical printer. Yay! But I can't rely on printing only from PDF. --Without changing settings, a PDF often prints slightly smaller than the original. That's insignificant for most users of the finished PDF. But when type is already at 7 point, any smaller makes reading/proofing even more difficult. If I want to check a measurement, that inadvertent reduction might make it incorrect. Changing settings takes more time than using a physical printer. --While distilling runs much more smoothly these days than it used to, I don't always want to take the time for those extra steps just to get a hard copy. --PDF conversion mangles some obscure formulas/symbols no matter what work-arounds I employ. I need to see them correct at least once--my physical printer has no problem with them. (But who knows, maybe the font box issue will resolve that, too!) --My physical printer works perfectly for me in every other instance. Plus it has stunning output that is slightly reduced in quality if I print from the PDF. Again, most people wouldn't notice, but I do. Thanks again everyone, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text reflows when converting to PDF
On 02/07/2012 3:23 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: > There are two places (at least!) where that option can be set: "At least" is right! > > -- The Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog (where you guys changed > it via File > Print Setup in FM). I believe that setting persists > only during the current FM session. > > -- The Adobe PDF Printing Preferences dialog. This is the place where > you make that setting the default so that it persists (so long as the > setting in Document Properties doesn't override it). > > To change the latter: > > 1) Go to Start > Devices and Printers (Win 7) or Start > Printers and > Faxes (Win XP). 2) Right-click Adobe PDF and select Printing > Preferences. 3) On the Adobe PDF Settings tab of the Printing > Preferences dialog, turn off Rely on system fonts only and click OK. Two more places to (if necessary) clear that checkbox: In step 2 above, right-click and select Printer Properties > General tab > Preferences; then also click the Advanced tab > Printing Defaults. > > A better alternative, IMHO, is to install Sundorne's free SetPrint > plugin (http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm). It > automatically makes Adobe PDF your printer in FM without requiring > you to change your system default printer. Highly recommended -- and > the price is right. :-) I second this recommendation, and also that of another poster who advised printing everything to PDF first, then printing the PDF to your physical printer. A lot of problems go away if you just follow that practice. Best regards, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Thanks, Framers, for great explanations and resources. I have now set the Adobe PDF default printer and unchecked that system fonts box in both locations. Note: The box remained unchecked in Frame's Print Setup dialog when I booted up this morning, and even when I switched to and from a physical printer. Yay! But I can't rely on printing only from PDF. --Without changing settings, a PDF often prints slightly smaller than the original. That's insignificant for most users of the finished PDF. But when type is already at 7 point, any smaller makes reading/proofing even more difficult. If I want to check a measurement, that inadvertent reduction might make it incorrect. Changing settings takes more time than using a physical printer. --While distilling runs much more smoothly these days than it used to, I don't always want to take the time for those extra steps just to get a hard copy. --PDF conversion mangles some obscure formulas/symbols no matter what work-arounds I employ. I need to see them correct at least once--my physical printer has no problem with them. (But who knows, maybe the font box issue will resolve that, too!) --My physical printer works perfectly for me in every other instance. Plus it has stunning output that is slightly reduced in quality if I print from the PDF. Again, most people wouldn't notice, but I do. Thanks again everyone, Karen
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Karen, Regarding the first --, you can set the pdf print setting to actual size (as your regular printer is probably already set to). It sounds like your other issues make the non-PDF option palatable. For those of us who have to print predictably onto labels or have our cross references always refer to the correct page, the PDF option works best. Craig > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:38:29 -0700 > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > From: karendesign at gmail.com > Subject: Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF > > Thanks, Framers, for great explanations and resources. > > I have now set the Adobe PDF default printer and unchecked that > system fonts box in both locations. Note: The box remained unchecked > in Frame's Print Setup dialog when I booted up this morning, and even > when I switched to and from a physical printer. Yay! > > But I can't rely on printing only from PDF. > > --Without changing settings, a PDF often prints slightly smaller than > the original. That's insignificant for most users of the finished > PDF. But when type is already at 7 point, any smaller makes > reading/proofing even more difficult. If I want to check a > measurement, that inadvertent reduction might make it incorrect. > Changing settings takes more time than using a physical printer. > > --While distilling runs much more smoothly these days than it used > to, I don't always want to take the time for those extra steps just > to get a hard copy. > > --PDF conversion mangles some obscure formulas/symbols no matter what > work-arounds I employ. I need to see them correct at least once--my > physical printer has no problem with them. (But who knows, maybe the > font box issue will resolve that, too!) > > --My physical printer works perfectly for me in every other instance. > Plus it has stunning output that is slightly reduced in quality if I > print from the PDF. Again, most people wouldn't notice, but I do. > > > Thanks again everyone, > Karen > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as craigede at hotmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120703/c5053f78/attachment.html>
RE: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Ed, This may have been it! I had unchecked that system/document font box, but never expected that I would have to keep doing it. We'll have to see if it lasts the day or requires constant re-unchecking. The latest PDF looks exactly like the earlier print version and current screen view. I have also changed my Windows default printer to Adobe PDF; it remains to be seen what happens when I need to use a physical printer. Users shouldn't have to keep resetting this stuff. Ideally the choice should stick with the document, or at least the application should remember everything you set until you change it. Thanks for the tip! Best, Karen At 3:45 PM + 7/2/12, De Rosier, Edward wrote: Hi Karen, My writing group also prints from FrameMaker to PostScript and then distills to PDF. When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click the printer Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties button. In the Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog box, under the Adobe PDF Settings tab, a check box is available and states: Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro. Each time I start FrameMaker for the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that I print to PostScript. For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and Adobe PDF printer remember my choice. In other applications (printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to uncheck that box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer. I do not know of any way to set the default to have that box unchecked. This is an annoyance in the current writing software within my work group. This is all speculation that your print sequence may include a change of fonts that may affect your text flow and word wrapping. That may not be your problem, but it is worth checking. Best Regards, Ed DeRosier MMD Technical Publications Anritsu Company Morgan Hill, California ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Text reflows when converting to PDF
De Rosier, Edward wrote: When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click the printer Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties button. In the Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog box, under the Adobe PDF Settings tab, a check box is available and states: Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro. Each time I start FrameMaker for the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that I print to PostScript. For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and Adobe PDF printer remember my choice. In other applications (printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to uncheck that box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer. Karen Robbins replied: This may have been it! I had unchecked that system/document font box, but never expected that I would have to keep doing it. We'll have to see if it lasts the day or requires constant re-unchecking. The latest PDF looks exactly like the earlier print version and current screen view. There are two places (at least!) where that option can be set: -- The Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog (where you guys changed it via File Print Setup in FM). I believe that setting persists only during the current FM session. -- The Adobe PDF Printing Preferences dialog. This is the place where you make that setting the default so that it persists (so long as the setting in Document Properties doesn't override it). To change the latter: 1) Go to Start Devices and Printers (Win 7) or Start Printers and Faxes (Win XP). 2) Right-click Adobe PDF and select Printing Preferences. 3) On the Adobe PDF Settings tab of the Printing Preferences dialog, turn off Rely on system fonts only and click OK. Note: There have been a couple of times in the last six or so months when this option was mysteriously turned back on in the Printing Preferences dialog. I suspect the cause was an Acrobat update. I have also changed my Windows default printer to Adobe PDF; it remains to be seen what happens when I need to use a physical printer. Well, you'll have to select a different printer (which means, in most apps, you have to go to File Print instead of clicking a toolbar button). A better alternative, IMHO, is to install Sundorne's free SetPrint plugin (http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm). It automatically makes Adobe PDF your printer in FM without requiring you to change your system default printer. Highly recommended -- and the price is right. :-) HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Karen, My writing group also prints from FrameMaker to PostScript and then distills to PDF. When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click the printer Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties button. In the Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog box, under the Adobe PDF Settings tab, a check box is available and states: Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro. Each time I start FrameMaker for the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that I print to PostScript. For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and Adobe PDF printer remember my choice. In other applications (printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to uncheck that box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer. I do not know of any way to set the default to have that box unchecked. This is an annoyance in the current writing software within my work group. This is all speculation that your print sequence may include a change of fonts that may affect your text flow and word wrapping. That may not be your problem, but it is worth checking. Best Regards, Ed DeRosier MMD Technical Publications Anritsu Company Morgan Hill, California ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Ed, This may have been it! I had unchecked that system/document font box, but never expected that I would have to keep doing it. We'll have to see if it lasts the day or requires constant re-unchecking. The latest PDF looks exactly like the earlier print version and current screen view. I have also changed my Windows default printer to Adobe PDF; it remains to be seen what happens when I need to use a physical printer. Users shouldn't have to keep resetting this stuff. Ideally the choice should stick with the document, or at least the application should remember everything you set until you change it. Thanks for the tip! Best, Karen At 3:45 PM + 7/2/12, De Rosier, Edward wrote: >Hi Karen, > >My writing group also prints from FrameMaker to PostScript and then >distills to PDF. > >When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click >the printer Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties >button. In the "Adobe PDF Document Properties" dialog box, under >the "Adobe PDF Settings" tab, a check box is available and states: >Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. > >I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro. Each time I start >FrameMaker for the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that >I print to PostScript. For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and >Adobe PDF printer "remember" my choice. In other applications >(printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to uncheck that >box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer. > >I do not know of any way to set the default to have that box >unchecked. This is an annoyance in the current writing software >within my work group. > >This is all speculation that your print sequence may include a >change of fonts that may affect your text flow and word wrapping. >That may not be your problem, but it is worth checking. > >Best Regards, > >Ed DeRosier >MMD Technical Publications >Anritsu Company >Morgan Hill, California
Text reflows when converting to PDF
De Rosier, Edward wrote: >When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click >the printer Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties >button. In the "Adobe PDF Document Properties" dialog box, under >the "Adobe PDF Settings" tab, a check box is available and states: >Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. > >I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro. Each time I start >FrameMaker for the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that >I print to PostScript. For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and >Adobe PDF printer "remember" my choice. In other applications >(printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to uncheck that >box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer. Karen Robbins replied: > This may have been it! I had unchecked that system/document font box, > but never expected that I would have to keep doing it. We'll have to > see if it lasts the day or requires constant re-unchecking. The > latest PDF looks exactly like the earlier print version and current > screen view. There are two places (at least!) where that option can be set: -- The Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog (where you guys changed it via File > Print Setup in FM). I believe that setting persists only during the current FM session. -- The Adobe PDF Printing Preferences dialog. This is the place where you make that setting the default so that it persists (so long as the setting in Document Properties doesn't override it). To change the latter: 1) Go to Start > Devices and Printers (Win 7) or Start > Printers and Faxes (Win XP). 2) Right-click Adobe PDF and select Printing Preferences. 3) On the Adobe PDF Settings tab of the Printing Preferences dialog, turn off Rely on system fonts only and click OK. Note: There have been a couple of times in the last six or so months when this option was mysteriously turned back on in the Printing Preferences dialog. I suspect the cause was an Acrobat update. > I have also changed my Windows default printer to Adobe PDF; it > remains to be seen what happens when I need to use a physical printer. Well, you'll have to select a different printer (which means, in most apps, you have to go to File > Print instead of clicking a toolbar button). A better alternative, IMHO, is to install Sundorne's free SetPrint plugin (http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm). It automatically makes Adobe PDF your printer in FM without requiring you to change your system default printer. Highly recommended -- and the price is right. :-) HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Karen, My writing group also prints from FrameMaker to PostScript and then distills to PDF. When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click the printer Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties button. In the "Adobe PDF Document Properties" dialog box, under the "Adobe PDF Settings" tab, a check box is available and states: Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro. Each time I start FrameMaker for the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that I print to PostScript. For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and Adobe PDF printer "remember" my choice. In other applications (printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to uncheck that box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer. I do not know of any way to set the default to have that box unchecked. This is an annoyance in the current writing software within my work group. This is all speculation that your print sequence may include a change of fonts that may affect your text flow and word wrapping. That may not be your problem, but it is worth checking. Best Regards, Ed DeRosier MMD Technical Publications Anritsu Company Morgan Hill, California
Text reflows when converting to PDF
When you change to the non-PDF printer you will get a message saying that the text may reflow. But the thing to do when you want to print to the printer is just print to PDF and then send your PDF to the printer from Acrobat. That way you won't get any surprises. Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Karen Robbins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:46 PM To: De Rosier, Edward Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Text reflows when converting to PDF Hi Ed, This may have been it! I had unchecked that system/document font box, but never expected that I would have to keep doing it. We'll have to see if it lasts the day or requires constant re-unchecking. The latest PDF looks exactly like the earlier print version and current screen view. I have also changed my Windows default printer to Adobe PDF; it remains to be seen what happens when I need to use a physical printer. Users shouldn't have to keep resetting this stuff. Ideally the choice should stick with the document, or at least the application should remember everything you set until you change it. Thanks for the tip! Best, Karen At 3:45 PM + 7/2/12, De Rosier, Edward wrote: >Hi Karen, > >My writing group also prints from FrameMaker to PostScript and then >distills to PDF. > >When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click the >printer Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties >button. In the "Adobe PDF Document Properties" dialog box, under the >"Adobe PDF Settings" tab, a check box is available and states: >Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. > >I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro. Each time I start >FrameMaker for the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that I >print to PostScript. For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and Adobe PDF >printer "remember" my choice. In other applications (printing from >Windows Outlook, for example), I need to uncheck that box every time I >print with Adobe PDF printer. > >I do not know of any way to set the default to have that box unchecked. >This is an annoyance in the current writing software within my work >group. > >This is all speculation that your print sequence may include a change >of fonts that may affect your text flow and word wrapping. >That may not be your problem, but it is worth checking. > >Best Regards, > >Ed DeRosier >MMD Technical Publications >Anritsu Company >Morgan Hill, California ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craigede at hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Mike, We have installed our own fonts in Windows. The font in question is Adobe Garamond Pro (OpenType). I still have to check the Windows default printer--not at office now. thanks Karen Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:24:14 -0500 From: Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF Message-ID: 4fee553e.70...@mikewickham.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for that setting A printer can print fonts at 1200 dpi. The monitor is typically around 96 ppi. So FrameMaker can't display the characters in the perfect location on screen. It can place the characters in a way that makes them best fit the pixels on screen (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=Off). Character spacing will be neater this way, but it may make the line lengths appear incorrectly. If your text is justified, you may actually see lines of text that extend beyond the right-hand border of the text box on screen (but not when you print). If your text is set ragged right, you may not notice the problem. Or, FrameMaker can space the characters in a way that more closely resembles where the printer will place them (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On). The line lengths will be right, but the kerning between characters (again, on screen only) will be a bit off to make that happen. It's your choice. I think the program default has the setting set to Off, but most people probably set it to On. what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer but not the same as what appears in the PDF. I think that's the hint to the source of your problem. You are probably using printer-resident fonts. Printers come with hard-wired fonts. The printer driver lets programs like FrameMaker see those fonts, display them as choices in font dropdown menus, display them on screen, and print them correctly to the local printer where the fonts are resident. But the fonts are not actually installed on the computer. So when you create a PDF, Acrobat cannot embed the fonts, and must substitute something else. The results are sometimes not noticeable. Other times, they are horrendous. To see if this is the case, look in your Windows\Fonts folder to see if the fonts are actually installed. If not, the solution is to install the fonts on the computer. The installation disk that comes with the printer should have the fonts on it, available for manual installation on the computer. Simply find the fonts and follow the proper installation procedure for your version of Windows. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Mike, We have installed our own fonts in Windows. The font in question is Adobe Garamond Pro (OpenType). I still have to check the Windows default printer--not at office now. thanks Karen > >Message: 4 >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:24:14 -0500 >From: Mike Wickham >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF >Message-ID: <4FEE553E.70102 at mikewickham.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >> Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in >> the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for >> that setting >> > >A printer can print fonts at 1200 dpi. The monitor is typically around >96 ppi. So FrameMaker can't display the characters in the perfect >location on screen. It can place the characters in a way that makes them >best fit the pixels on screen (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=Off). >Character spacing will be neater this way, but it may make the line >lengths appear incorrectly. If your text is justified, you may actually >see lines of text that extend beyond the right-hand border of the text >box on screen (but not when you print). If your text is set ragged >right, you may not notice the problem. > >Or, FrameMaker can space the characters in a way that more closely >resembles where the printer will place them >(DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On). The line lengths will be right, but the >kerning between characters (again, on screen only) will be a bit off to >make that happen. It's your choice. I think the program default has the >setting set to Off, but most people probably set it to On. > >> what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer >> but not the same as what appears in the PDF. >> > >I think that's the hint to the source of your problem. You are probably >using printer-resident fonts. Printers come with hard-wired fonts. The >printer driver lets programs like FrameMaker see those fonts, display >them as choices in font dropdown menus, display them on screen, and >print them correctly to the local printer where the fonts are resident. >But the fonts are not actually installed on the computer. So when you >create a PDF, Acrobat cannot embed the fonts, and must substitute >something else. The results are sometimes not noticeable. Other times, >they are horrendous. To see if this is the case, look in your >Windows\Fonts folder to see if the fonts are actually installed. > >If not, the solution is to install the fonts on the computer. The >installation disk that comes with the printer should have the fonts on >it, available for manual installation on the computer. Simply find the >fonts and follow the proper installation procedure for your version of >Windows. > >Mike Wickham
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Framers, In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, which converted without this problem. What can I do to fix it? Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Does this help? http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html Nadine From: Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF Hi Framers, In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, which converted without this problem. What can I do to fix it? Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Tom Magnus suggested confirming this, but yes, Frame's printer is set to Adobe PDF when printing to .ps. Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for that setting--what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer but not the same as what appears in the PDF. I can only find one maker.ini file, in the Adobe folder; where is that second one? I can't find a C:\Documents and Settings\~\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\X.0 or similar. Sorry, I'm a Mac person; digging around in the bowels of Windows (7) always scares me :-). Thanks, Karen At 4:55 PM -0700 6/29/12, Writer wrote: Does this help? http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html Nadine From: Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF Hi Framers, In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, which converted without this problem. What can I do to fix it? Thanks, Karen___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for that setting A printer can print fonts at 1200 dpi. The monitor is typically around 96 ppi. So FrameMaker can't display the characters in the perfect location on screen. It can place the characters in a way that makes them best fit the pixels on screen (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=Off). Character spacing will be neater this way, but it may make the line lengths appear incorrectly. If your text is justified, you may actually see lines of text that extend beyond the right-hand border of the text box on screen (but not when you print). If your text is set ragged right, you may not notice the problem. Or, FrameMaker can space the characters in a way that more closely resembles where the printer will place them (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On). The line lengths will be right, but the kerning between characters (again, on screen only) will be a bit off to make that happen. It's your choice. I think the program default has the setting set to Off, but most people probably set it to On. what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer but not the same as what appears in the PDF. I think that's the hint to the source of your problem. You are probably using printer-resident fonts. Printers come with hard-wired fonts. The printer driver lets programs like FrameMaker see those fonts, display them as choices in font dropdown menus, display them on screen, and print them correctly to the local printer where the fonts are resident. But the fonts are not actually installed on the computer. So when you create a PDF, Acrobat cannot embed the fonts, and must substitute something else. The results are sometimes not noticeable. Other times, they are horrendous. To see if this is the case, look in your Windows\Fonts folder to see if the fonts are actually installed. If not, the solution is to install the fonts on the computer. The installation disk that comes with the printer should have the fonts on it, available for manual installation on the computer. Simply find the fonts and follow the proper installation procedure for your version of Windows. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Framers, In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, which converted without this problem. What can I do to fix it? Thanks, Karen
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Does this help? http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html Nadine > > From: Karen Robbins >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM >Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF > >Hi Framers, > >In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a >photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from >that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are >improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my >source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the >fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even >image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, >which converted without this problem. > >What can I do to fix it? > >Thanks, >Karen > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120629/70a4986d/attachment.html>
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Tom Magnus suggested confirming this, but yes, Frame's printer is set to Adobe PDF when printing to .ps. Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for that setting--what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer but not the same as what appears in the PDF. I can only find one maker.ini file, in the Adobe folder; where is that second one? I can't find a "C:\Documents and Settings\~\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\X.0" or similar. Sorry, I'm a Mac person; digging around in the bowels of Windows (7) always scares me :-). Thanks, Karen At 4:55 PM -0700 6/29/12, Writer wrote: >Does this help? >http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html > >Nadine > > > >From: Karen Robbins >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM >Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF > > >Hi Framers, > >In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping >around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the >PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text >rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to >mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I >don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts >themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, >even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of >this project, which converted without this problem. > >What can I do to fix it? > >Thanks, >Karen -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120629/07b713fd/attachment.html>
Text reflows when converting to PDF
> Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in > the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for > that setting > A printer can print fonts at 1200 dpi. The monitor is typically around 96 ppi. So FrameMaker can't display the characters in the perfect location on screen. It can place the characters in a way that makes them best fit the pixels on screen (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=Off). Character spacing will be neater this way, but it may make the line lengths appear incorrectly. If your text is justified, you may actually see lines of text that extend beyond the right-hand border of the text box on screen (but not when you print). If your text is set ragged right, you may not notice the problem. Or, FrameMaker can space the characters in a way that more closely resembles where the printer will place them (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On). The line lengths will be right, but the kerning between characters (again, on screen only) will be a bit off to make that happen. It's your choice. I think the program default has the setting set to Off, but most people probably set it to On. > what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer > but not the same as what appears in the PDF. > I think that's the hint to the source of your problem. You are probably using printer-resident fonts. Printers come with hard-wired fonts. The printer driver lets programs like FrameMaker see those fonts, display them as choices in font dropdown menus, display them on screen, and print them correctly to the local printer where the fonts are resident. But the fonts are not actually installed on the computer. So when you create a PDF, Acrobat cannot embed the fonts, and must substitute something else. The results are sometimes not noticeable. Other times, they are horrendous. To see if this is the case, look in your Windows\Fonts folder to see if the fonts are actually installed. If not, the solution is to install the fonts on the computer. The installation disk that comes with the printer should have the fonts on it, available for manual installation on the computer. Simply find the fonts and follow the proper installation procedure for your version of Windows. Mike Wickham
