another table question or automatic text in a heading row

2008-05-20 Thread Leah Smaller
I was hoping to avoid this solution, but if ya gotta, ya gotta. And guess 
what - there is a gotcha.
One of the columns is narrow, so the 2 word text wraps around. When these 2 
words are the autonumber value, they do not wrap around. They are squeezed 
onto one line and the second work overlays the first word! Any suggestions? 
FYI, I tried putting \t between the words in the autonumber field - no go.

- Original Message - 
From: "Art Campbell" 
To: "Leah Smaller" 
Cc: "Frame Users" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 13:26
Subject: Re: another table question


> Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format, 
> no.
>
> However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
> column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
> in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.
>
> In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
> in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
> Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
> the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
> though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
> to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
> after you create the table.
>
> And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
> with a script.
>
> Art
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller  wrote:
>> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>>
>> TIA again,
>> Leah Smaller
>> Technical Communicator
>> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
>> leah at compulite.com
>>
>> "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own 
>> discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
>> ___
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358 



another table question

2008-05-20 Thread Leah Smaller
Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format? 

TIA again,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
leah at compulite.com

"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." 
(Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)


another table question or automatic text in a heading row

2008-05-20 Thread Art Campbell
Yup, that's a problem. Especially if you believe the doc, which says
it is valid.
Damn tech writers ;- )

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> Replying to Leah Smaller, Art Campbell wrote (in part):
>
>> See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
>> should work, but it doesn't take on my system.
>
> \r is not valid in autonumber strings. I would be nice if it were...
>
> -FR
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. Help protect
> your kids.



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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


another table question or automatic text in a heading row

2008-05-20 Thread Fred Ridder

Replying to Leah Smaller, Art Campbell wrote (in part):
> See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
> should work, but it doesn't take on my system.

\r is not valid in autonumber strings. I would be nice if it were...

-FR




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another table question or automatic text in a heading row

2008-05-20 Thread Art Campbell
A \t adds a tab stop which isn't going to do anything unless you also
set up a tab stop in the para tag.

See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
should work, but it doesn't take on my system.

However, em spaces do work. Try putting a \sm or two between your
words to force a break.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Leah Smaller  wrote:
> I was hoping to avoid this solution, but if ya gotta, ya gotta. And guess
> what - there is a gotcha.
> One of the columns is narrow, so the 2 word text wraps around. When these 2
> words are the autonumber value, they do not wrap around. They are squeezed
> onto one line and the second work overlays the first word! Any suggestions?
> FYI, I tried putting \t between the words in the autonumber field - no go.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Art Campbell" 
> To: "Leah Smaller" 
> Cc: "Frame Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 13:26
> Subject: Re: another table question
>
>
>> Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format,
>> no.
>>
>> However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
>> column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
>> in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.
>>
>> In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
>> in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
>> Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
>> the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
>> though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
>> to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
>> after you create the table.
>>
>> And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
>> with a script.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>>>
>>> TIA again,
>>> Leah Smaller
>>> Technical Communicator
>>> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
>>> leah at compulite.com
>>>
>>> "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own
>>> discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
>>> ___
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
>> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>> No disclaimers apply.
>> DoD 358
>
>



-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


another table question

2008-05-20 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Leah,

Not "text" per se, but since the paragraph formats for each cell are stored 
with the table format, you could use formats that have autonumbers to define 
the text you want. Here are the general steps you can use:

1) Insert a table with the desired format and the number of columns that you 
would normally use.

2) Click in each heading cell and create a paragraph format with the 
autonumber set to the text you want for each cell.

3) When you are done, open the Table Designer and click Update All.

The next time you insert one of these tables, you will get your heading 
text.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>
> TIA again,
> Leah Smaller
> Technical Communicator
> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
> leah at compulite.com
>



another table question

2008-05-20 Thread Rick Henkel
On 5/20/08, Leah Smaller  wrote:
> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?



We use AutoText (www.siliconprairiesoftware.com) to insert certain
table formats with certain text already entered. We use it for a lot
of other things, too.

-- 
Rick Henkel
http://rickhenkel.googlepages.com/index.htm


another table question

2008-05-20 Thread Art Campbell
Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format, no.

However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.

In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
after you create the table.

And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
with a script.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller  wrote:
> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>
> TIA again,
> Leah Smaller
> Technical Communicator
> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
> leah at compulite.com
>
> "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." 
> (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
> ___
>


-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


Re: another table question or automatic text in a heading row

2008-05-20 Thread Art Campbell
Yup, that's a problem. Especially if you believe the doc, which says
it is valid.
Damn tech writers ;- )

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Replying to Leah Smaller, Art Campbell wrote (in part):
>
>> See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
>> should work, but it doesn't take on my system.
>
> \r is not valid in autonumber strings. I would be nice if it were...
>
> -FR
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. Help protect
> your kids.



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RE: another table question or automatic text in a heading row

2008-05-20 Thread Fred Ridder

Replying to Leah Smaller, Art Campbell wrote (in part):
> See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
> should work, but it doesn't take on my system.
 
\r is not valid in autonumber strings. I would be nice if it were...
 
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Re: another table question or automatic text in a heading row

2008-05-20 Thread Art Campbell
A \t adds a tab stop which isn't going to do anything unless you also
set up a tab stop in the para tag.

See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
should work, but it doesn't take on my system.

However, em spaces do work. Try putting a \sm or two between your
words to force a break.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Leah Smaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was hoping to avoid this solution, but if ya gotta, ya gotta. And guess
> what - there is a gotcha.
> One of the columns is narrow, so the 2 word text wraps around. When these 2
> words are the autonumber value, they do not wrap around. They are squeezed
> onto one line and the second work overlays the first word! Any suggestions?
> FYI, I tried putting \t between the words in the autonumber field - no go.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Art Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Leah Smaller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Frame Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 13:26
> Subject: Re: another table question
>
>
>> Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format,
>> no.
>>
>> However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
>> column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
>> in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.
>>
>> In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
>> in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
>> Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
>> the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
>> though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
>> to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
>> after you create the table.
>>
>> And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
>> with a script.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>>>
>>> TIA again,
>>> Leah Smaller
>>> Technical Communicator
>>> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own
>>> discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
>>> ___
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
>> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>> No disclaimers apply.
>> DoD 358
>
>



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Re: another table question

2008-05-20 Thread Rick Henkel
On 5/20/08, Leah Smaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?



We use AutoText (www.siliconprairiesoftware.com) to insert certain
table formats with certain text already entered. We use it for a lot
of other things, too.

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Re: another table question or automatic text in a heading row

2008-05-20 Thread Leah Smaller
I was hoping to avoid this solution, but if ya gotta, ya gotta. And guess 
what - there is a gotcha.
One of the columns is narrow, so the 2 word text wraps around. When these 2 
words are the autonumber value, they do not wrap around. They are squeezed 
onto one line and the second work overlays the first word! Any suggestions? 
FYI, I tried putting \t between the words in the autonumber field - no go.

- Original Message - 
From: "Art Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Leah Smaller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Frame Users" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 13:26
Subject: Re: another table question


> Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format, 
> no.
>
> However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
> column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
> in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.
>
> In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
> in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
> Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
> the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
> though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
> to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
> after you create the table.
>
> And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
> with a script.
>
> Art
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>>
>> TIA again,
>> Leah Smaller
>> Technical Communicator
>> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own 
>> discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
>> ___
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358 

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Re: another table question

2008-05-20 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Leah,

Not "text" per se, but since the paragraph formats for each cell are stored 
with the table format, you could use formats that have autonumbers to define 
the text you want. Here are the general steps you can use:

1) Insert a table with the desired format and the number of columns that you 
would normally use.

2) Click in each heading cell and create a paragraph format with the 
autonumber set to the text you want for each cell.

3) When you are done, open the Table Designer and click Update All.

The next time you insert one of these tables, you will get your heading 
text.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>
> TIA again,
> Leah Smaller
> Technical Communicator
> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

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Re: another table question

2008-05-20 Thread Art Campbell
Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format, no.

However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.

In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
after you create the table.

And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
with a script.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>
> TIA again,
> Leah Smaller
> Technical Communicator
> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." 
> (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
> ___
>


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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
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another table question

2008-05-20 Thread Leah Smaller
Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format? 

TIA again,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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