RE: global master page changes: Timestamp

2013-03-27 Thread Craig Ede 
I'm coming from a medical device background, where revisions of documents are 
quite different than modifications (hundreds, perhaps, between revisions, even 
if the revision releases are only one month apart). It nice to know when a 
document was released and not just when it was last touched.

 

Accordingly, we use user variables for the revision and change it from Rev A 
to Rev A+ after an official release and then finally to Rev B when that is 
released. Such user variables are also used for a release date like March 
2013. We would never want such a variable to update one either open, update 
(which also updates system variables, unless I'm mistaken) or close.

 

We use system variables to capture modification date/time for every file 
editing session (since the documents are checked in and out of a repository). 
With those variables in the footer on every page of a document (along with the 
filename variable), we know exactly what version of a document we are looking 
at when we see a printout or PDF of any of these files. We like the auto-update 
quality of a variable in this situation. [We print all this in tiny, tiny type 
in the footer.]

 

Craig

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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Klaus Mueller 
Hello Matt,

 Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is
 to save the definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any
 chance of mucking anything else in your files.

This is true - unless you are using system variables that are
different than the default definitions.
If you open a MIF snippet specifying only user variables,
FrameMaker will automatically create all system variables with
default values when opening the snippet.

Kind regards,
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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried 
Hi,

When you use MIF snippets (or MIF fragments), you do not
open the MIF snippet before you import (which would
create everything which is missing in the MIF snippet).
You must use:
Import File
Copy Into Document

Then only the formats specified in your MIF snippet are
imported. All other formats and tags are not touched.

Best regards

Winfried

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 Hello Matt,

  Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is
  to save the definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any
  chance of mucking anything else in your files.

 This is true - unless you are using system variables that are
 different than the default definitions.
 If you open a MIF snippet specifying only user variables,
 FrameMaker will automatically create all system variables with
 default values when opening the snippet.

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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Klaus Mueller 
Hello Winfried,

 you do not open the MIF snippet before you import

Ahh! Thanks. Never tried it this way ...

Kind regards,
Klaus


--- Original Message ---
From: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Date: 26.03.2013 08:37
 Hi,
 
 When you use MIF snippets (or MIF fragments), you do not
 open the MIF snippet before you import (which would
 create everything which is missing in the MIF snippet).
 You must use:
 Import File
 Copy Into Document
 
 Then only the formats specified in your MIF snippet are
 imported. All other formats and tags are not touched.
 
 Best regards
 
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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Robert Lauriston 
That's what I suggested. Note that you can't use those in user-defined
variables, you need to edit one of the system date variables. Current
Date (Short) is probably the best choice. You could also use
Modification Date (Short), or the (Long) versions of either.
Modification Date can be problematic if you forget to update before
printing or generating a PDF.

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 $monthname $year
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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Gillian Flato 
Additionally, BookVars from Leximation is an excellent program for managing 
variables, and cheap too.

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Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the 
definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything else 
in your files.

I refer to Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings on p. 581 of my 
book whenever I need to do this.

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I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables from 
a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used variables) 
across the range of files that need to be updated.

Craig

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Subject: global master page changes

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
client likes to have a version in the header, such as March 2013 Version, 
April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my master 
pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I'm currently 
running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not 
everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in advance for 
the help.

Tim DeWees
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variables imported via MIF fragment WAS: global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Craig Ede 
I agree that the MIF fragment import is the most elegant (and was my
preferred method previously), but  I had no success with import from MIF
fragment working with FM11. I haven't tried it with FM10. Can someone else
confirm that this no longer works with FM11?

 

Craig

 

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Subject: Re: global master page changes

 

Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the
definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything
else in your files.

 

I refer to Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings on p. 581 of my
book whenever I need to do this.


-Matt

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I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables
from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used
variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.

 

Craig

 

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Subject: global master page changes

 

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a version in the header, such as March 2013
Version, April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.

 

Tim DeWees

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Re: global master page changes: Timestamp

2013-03-26 Thread gr...@hedgewizard.net 
There is a pair of default FM variables: Modification date long and
Modification date short  that will do what you want.
Grant

 On March 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM Pat Christenson pxen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will
 automatically update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each
 month, even if the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want
 the new date only when modifications are made, create a user variable that you
 edit at the time of the revisions.
 
  Pat
 
 
  On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:
 
 
 Tim,
   In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of
  your running header:
  
   $monthname $year
  
   Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and
  you never have to change it.
  
   -Gillian
  
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   Subject: global master page changes
  
   I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month.
  The client likes to have a “version” in the header, such as “March 2013
  Version”, “April 2013 Version,” etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
  of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
  I’m currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
  framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
   Thanks in advance for the help.
  
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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Timothy DeWees 

Thanks everyone for the great advice on the master pages. My client loved
the idea of using date variables.  I've been using frame for several years
and still find there are elements of it that I under-utilize.  Better to
have too many options than not enough.

Tim DeWees



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Re: global master page changes: Timestamp

2013-03-26 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Slight correction to Pat's suggestion: The vars update upon save, not upon open. Current Date vars update upon open.
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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
I also highly recommend BookVars from Leximation ...  it is my most often used 
add-on to FrameMaker.

Z

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Additionally, BookVars from Leximation is an excellent program for managing 
variables, and cheap too.

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DeWees'
Subject: Re: global master page changes

Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the 
definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything else 
in your files.

I refer to Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings on p. 581 of my 
book whenever I need to do this.

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I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables from 
a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used variables) 
across the range of files that need to be updated.

Craig

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Subject: global master page changes

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
client likes to have a version in the header, such as March 2013 Version, 
April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my master 
pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I'm currently 
running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not 
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2013-03-26 Thread Dave Reynolds 
I agree with Richard. The three things that I make sure are consistent 
through the book are: variables, conditional text settings and cross 
reference formats. When updating a book, or converting an existing book 
to apply to another similar product, I open the title page file, 
updatethe 3 above-mentioned items, and then import these settings to the 
rest of the book.

Setting up the master pages with the variable(s) can take time the first 
time, but it saves a lot of time after that.
Combs, Richard wrote, on 26/03/2013 10:31 a.m.:
> Matt Sullivan wrote:
>   
>> Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the
>> definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything
>> else in your files.
>>
>> I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my
>> book whenever I need to do this.
> Aw, you're just showing off. ;-)
>
> This is never an issue for me. For any given book, all variables have the 
> same definition. I modify variable definitions only in the title page file, 
> from which I import them to all the other files in the book.
>
> Except on the rare occasions that I'm doing major template updates, the first 
> thing I do in the Import Formats dialog box is click Deselect All. So long as 
> I don't go berserk and abandon that long-standing process, mucking up 
> anything else just isn't an issue for me.
>
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2013-03-26 Thread Klaus Mueller 
Hello Matt,

> Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is
> to save the definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any
> chance of mucking anything else in your files.

This is true - unless you are using system variables that are
different than the default definitions.
If you open a MIF snippet specifying only user variables,
FrameMaker will automatically create all system variables with
default values when opening the snippet.

Kind regards,
Klaus

global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried 
Hi,

When you use MIF snippets (or MIF fragments), you do not
open the MIF snippet before you import (which would
create everything which is missing in the MIF snippet).
You must use:
Import File
Copy Into Document

Then only the formats specified in your MIF snippet are
imported. All other formats and tags are not touched.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
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> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Mueller
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:04 AM
> To: matt at mattrsullivan.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: global master page changes
>
> Hello Matt,
>
> > Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is
> > to save the definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any
> > chance of mucking anything else in your files.
>
> This is true - unless you are using system variables that are
> different than the default definitions.
> If you open a MIF snippet specifying only user variables,
> FrameMaker will automatically create all system variables with
> default values when opening the snippet.
>
> Kind regards,
> Klaus



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2013-03-26 Thread Klaus Mueller 
Hello Winfried,

> you do not open the MIF snippet before you import

Ahh! Thanks. Never tried it this way ...

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Klaus


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> 
> When you use MIF snippets (or MIF fragments), you do not
> open the MIF snippet before you import (which would
> create everything which is missing in the MIF snippet).
> You must use:
> Import File
> Copy Into Document
> 
> Then only the formats specified in your MIF snippet are
> imported. All other formats and tags are not touched.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Winfried

global master page changes

2013-03-26 Thread Timothy DeWees 

Thanks everyone for the great advice on the master pages. My client loved
the idea of using date variables.  I've been using frame for several years
and still find there are elements of it that I under-utilize.  Better to
have too many options than not enough.

Tim DeWees

global master page changes: Timestamp

2013-03-26 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Slight correction to Pat's suggestion: The vars update upon save, not upon 
open. Current Date vars update upon open.

-Matt

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On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:46 PM, "grant at hedgewizard.net"  wrote:

>> On March 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM Pat Christenson  wrote: 
>> 
>> The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will 
>> automatically update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each 
>> month, even if the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want 
>> the new date only when modifications are made, create a user variable that 
>> you edit at the time of the revisions.
>>  
>> Pat

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2013-03-26 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
I also highly recommend BookVars from Leximation ...  it is my most often used 
add-on to FrameMaker.

Z

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Subject: RE: global master page changes

Additionally, BookVars from Leximation is an excellent program for managing 
variables, and cheap too.

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Subject: Re: global master page changes

Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the 
definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything else 
in your files.

I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my 
book whenever I need to do this.

-Matt
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede mailto:craigede at hotmail.com>> wrote:

I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables from 
a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used variables) 
across the range of files that need to be updated.

Craig

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Subject: global master page changes

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013 Version", 
"April 2013 Version," etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my master 
pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I'm currently 
running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not 
everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in advance for 
the help.

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2013-03-26 Thread Craig Ede 
I'm coming from a medical device background, where revisions of documents are 
quite different than modifications (hundreds, perhaps, between revisions, even 
if the revision releases are only one month apart). It nice to know when a 
document was released and not just when it was last touched.



Accordingly, we use user variables for the revision and change it from "Rev A" 
to "Rev A+" after an official release and then finally to "Rev B" when that is 
released. Such user variables are also used for a release date like "March 
2013". We would never want such a variable to update one either open, update 
(which also updates system variables, unless I'm mistaken) or close.



We use system variables to capture modification date/time for every file 
editing session (since the documents are checked in and out of a repository). 
With those variables in the footer on every page of a document (along with the 
filename variable), we know exactly what version of a document we are looking 
at when we see a printout or PDF of any of these files. We like the auto-update 
quality of a variable in this situation. [We print all this in tiny, tiny type 
in the footer.]



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2013-03-25 Thread Timothy DeWees 
I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a version in the header, such as March 2013
Version, April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.

 

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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Rick Quatro 
Hi Tim,

 

You could change the master pages in one document and use File  Import 
Formats to import the Page Layouts into the rest of the documents. Or you
could use an ExtendScript script to do it because ExtendScript comes with
FrameMaker 10 so you don't have to buy it. If you are interested in a script
like this, please contact me offlist. Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

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Carmen Publishing Inc.

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r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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Subject: global master page changes

 

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a version in the header, such as March 2013
Version, April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.

 

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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Hi Tim, check out the Running Header/Footer variables that pull content from markers, without having to change the master pages each month. With a marker change, you could change the value within the header, without being terribly disruptive to the rest of the doc.(I cover these on p.207 of my book)
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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Combs, Richard 
Timothy DeWees wrote:
 
 I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
 client likes to have a version in the header, such as March 2013 Version,
 April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my master
 pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I'm currently
 running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not
 everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in advance for
 the help.

This is exactly the sort of thing for which variables exist. 

1) Create a user variable named Version (Special  Variable  Create 
Variable) and set Definition to April 2013 Version (or whatever value you 
need at this time). 

2) In the master pages of one of the book files, replace the typed-in values 
(April 2013 Version or whatever) with the new Version variable. 

3) Import the updated master pages into all the other files in the book. 

4) When it's time to produce the May 2013 version, change the definition of the 
Version variable in one file of the book. 

5) In the book window, select all the other files in the book and import 
variable definitions (File  Import  Formats) from the file where you updated 
Version. 

For each new version, just repeat steps 4 and 5. 

HTH!

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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Fred Ridder 
Rick's solution assumes that all components of your book use the same page 
layouts, specifically the exact same header/footer specifications. Otherwise, 
the update will wipe out the differences. Also, this approach requires you to 
add/update the version info to each different master page you have defined.

Another approach that is both simpler and more general is to modify all the 
master pages to include a new User Variable which you define to be whatever 
version string you need to use. The initial setup is much the same as Rick's 
solution except that you use a variable rather than an explicit text string. 
Once the variables are in the headers of all the components, updating the 
version ID is as simple as redefining the value of the variable one time, in 
one file and importing only the variable definitions from that one file to all 
the rest. 

-Fred Ridder

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:13:44 -0400

Hi Tim, You could change the master pages in one document and use File  Import 
 Formats to import the Page Layouts into the rest of the documents. Or you 
could use an ExtendScript script to do it because ExtendScript comes with 
FrameMaker 10 so you don't have to buy it. If you are interested in a script 
like this, please contact me offlist. Thank you very much. Rick Rick 
QuatroCarmen Publishing inc.585-283-5045r...@frameexpert.com   From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: global master page changes I have a document that changes very 
frequently, sometimes every month. The client likes to have a “version” in the 
header, such as “March 2013 Version”, “April 2013 Version,” etc.  Is there a 
way to globally revise all of my master pages in the book from say March to 
April in the header title? I’m currently running FM10 and would prefer to do 
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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Robert Lauriston 
Use one of the Current Date variables, definition modified to
$monthname $year.

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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Gillian Flato 
Tim,
In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of your 
running header:

$monthname $year

Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and you never 
have to change it.

-Gillian

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April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my master 
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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Craig Ede 
I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables
from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used
variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.

 

Craig

 

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Subject: global master page changes

 

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a version in the header, such as March 2013
Version, April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.

 

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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Pat Christenson 
The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will automatically 
update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each month, even if 
the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want the new date only 
when modifications are made, create a user variable that you edit at the time 
of the revisions.

Pat


On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:

 Tim,
 In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of your 
 running header:
  
 $monthname $year
  
 Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and you 
 never have to change it.
  
 -Gillian
  
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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
 Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:02 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: global master page changes
  
 I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
 client likes to have a “version” in the header, such as “March 2013 Version”, 
 “April 2013 Version,” etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my 
 master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I’m 
 currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript 
 since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in 
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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything else in your files.I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my book whenever I need to do this.
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.CraigFrom:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf OfTimothy DeWeesSent:Monday, March 25, 2013 4:02 AMTo:framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject:global master page changesI have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The client likes to have a “version” in the header, such as “March 2013 Version”, “April 2013 Version,” etc. Is there a way to globally revise all of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I’m currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript. Thanks in advance for the help.Tim DeWees___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Combs, Richard 
Matt Sullivan wrote: 
 
 Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the
 definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything
 else in your files.
 
 I refer to Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings on p. 581 of my
 book whenever I need to do this.

Aw, you're just showing off. ;-) 

This is never an issue for me. For any given book, all variables have the same 
definition. I modify variable definitions only in the title page file, from 
which I import them to all the other files in the book. 

Except on the rare occasions that I'm doing major template updates, the first 
thing I do in the Import Formats dialog box is click Deselect All. So long as I 
don't go berserk and abandon that long-standing process, mucking up anything 
else just isn't an issue for me.

Richard G. Combs
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RE: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Rick Quatro 
One potential problem here: File  Import  Formats will import system
variables as well as user variables. Sometimes you will have different
system variable definitions that you may not want to import. That is one of
the reasons I separated system and user variables in my ImportFormatsSpecial
plugin (and script). The MIF fragment would also avoid this potential
problem.

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Matt Sullivan wrote: 
 
 Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save 
 the definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking 
 anything else in your files.
 
 I refer to Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings on p. 581 
 of my book whenever I need to do this.

Aw, you're just showing off. ;-) 

This is never an issue for me. For any given book, all variables have the
same definition. I modify variable definitions only in the title page file,
from which I import them to all the other files in the book. 

Except on the rare occasions that I'm doing major template updates, the
first thing I do in the Import Formats dialog box is click Deselect All. So
long as I don't go berserk and abandon that long-standing process, mucking
up anything else just isn't an issue for me.

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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Tee hee!Yes, the book may have the same variables, but the values are typically different from those in the template.For me, I like the MIF option so I don't have to think about where the var defs came from, and experience the universal slap-hand-to-forehead moment!Certainly, though, a YMMV discussion.
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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Dave Reynolds 
I agree with Richard. The three things that I make sure are consistent 
through the book are: variables, conditional text settings and cross 
reference formats. When updating a book, or converting an existing book 
to apply to another similar product, I open the title page file, 
updatethe 3 above-mentioned items, and then import these settings to the 
rest of the book.


Setting up the master pages with the variable(s) can take time the first 
time, but it saves a lot of time after that.

Combs, Richard wrote, on 26/03/2013 10:31 a.m.:

Matt Sullivan wrote:
  

Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the
definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything
else in your files.

I refer to Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings on p. 581 of my
book whenever I need to do this.

Aw, you're just showing off. ;-)

This is never an issue for me. For any given book, all variables have the same 
definition. I modify variable definitions only in the title page file, from 
which I import them to all the other files in the book.

Except on the rare occasions that I'm doing major template updates, the first 
thing I do in the Import Formats dialog box is click Deselect All. So long as I 
don't go berserk and abandon that long-standing process, mucking up anything 
else just isn't an issue for me.

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Re: variables imported via MIF fragment WAS: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
I have used it in FM 11 successfully 1/2 dozen times with various clients.I also highly recommend Rick's ImportFormatsSpecial (even more because he updated to FM 11 (to include Object Styles) at my request)
-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.960.6840 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com

On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:I agree that the MIF fragment import is the most elegant (and was my preferred method previously), but I had no success with import from MIF fragment working with FM11. I haven't tried it with FM10. Can someone else confirm that this no longer works with FM11?CraigFrom:Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt@mattrsullivan.com]Sent:Monday, March 25, 2013 4:20 PMTo:craig...@hotmail.comCc:'Timothy DeWees';framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject:Re: global master page changesPerhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything else in your files.I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my book whenever I need to do this.-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.960.6840 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.comimage001.png@mattrsullivanimage002.pngLinkedInimage003.pngfacebookimage004.pngmattrsullivan.comOn Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.CraigFrom:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf OfTimothy DeWeesSent:Monday, March 25, 2013 4:02 AMTo:framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject:global master page changesI have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The client likes to have a “version” in the header, such as “March 2013 Version”, “April 2013 Version,” etc. Is there a way to globally revise all of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I’m currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript. Thanks in advance for the help.Tim DeWees___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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2013-03-25 Thread Timothy DeWees 
I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013
Version", "April 2013 Version," etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.



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2013-03-25 Thread Rick Quatro 
Hi Tim,



You could change the master pages in one document and use File > Import >
Formats to import the Page Layouts into the rest of the documents. Or you
could use an ExtendScript script to do it because ExtendScript comes with
FrameMaker 10 so you don't have to buy it. If you are interested in a script
like this, please contact me offlist. Thank you very much.



Rick



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585-283-5045

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I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013
Version", "April 2013 Version," etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.



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2013-03-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Hi Tim, check out the Running Header/Footer variables that pull content from 
markers, without having to change the master pages each month. With a marker 
change, you could change the value within the header, without being terribly 
disruptive to the rest of the doc.

(I cover these on p.207 of my book) 

-Matt

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On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:01 AM, "Timothy DeWees"  wrote:

> I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
> client likes to have a ?version? in the header, such as ?March 2013 Version?, 
> ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my 
> master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I?m 
> currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript 
> since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in 
> advance for the help.
>  
> Tim DeWees
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2013-03-25 Thread Combs, Richard 
Timothy DeWees wrote:

> I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
> client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013 Version",
> "April 2013 Version," etc.? Is there a way to globally revise all of my master
> pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I'm currently
> running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not
> everyone working with these documents has framescript.? Thanks in advance for
> the help.

This is exactly the sort of thing for which variables exist. 

1) Create a user variable named "Version" (Special > Variable > Create 
Variable) and set Definition to "April 2013 Version" (or whatever value you 
need at this time). 

2) In the master pages of one of the book files, replace the typed-in values 
("April 2013 Version" or whatever) with the new Version variable. 

3) Import the updated master pages into all the other files in the book. 

4) When it's time to produce the May 2013 version, change the definition of the 
Version variable in one file of the book. 

5) In the book window, select all the other files in the book and import 
variable definitions (File > Import > Formats) from the file where you updated 
Version. 

For each new version, just repeat steps 4 and 5. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
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2013-03-25 Thread Fred Ridder 
Rick's solution assumes that all components of your book use the same page 
layouts, specifically the exact same header/footer specifications. Otherwise, 
the update will wipe out the differences. Also, this approach requires you to 
add/update the version info to each different master page you have defined.

Another approach that is both simpler and more general is to modify all the 
master pages to include a new User Variable which you define to be whatever 
version string you need to use. The initial setup is much the same as Rick's 
solution except that you use a variable rather than an explicit text string. 
Once the variables are in the headers of all the components, updating the 
version ID is as simple as redefining the value of the variable one time, in 
one file and importing only the variable definitions from that one file to all 
the rest. 

-Fred Ridder

From: r...@rickquatro.com
To: tdewees at charter.net; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: global master page changes
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:13:44 -0400

Hi Tim, You could change the master pages in one document and use File > Import 
> Formats to import the Page Layouts into the rest of the documents. Or you 
could use an ExtendScript script to do it because ExtendScript comes with 
FrameMaker 10 so you don't have to buy it. If you are interested in a script 
like this, please contact me offlist. Thank you very much. Rick Rick 
QuatroCarmen Publishing Inc.585-283-5045rick at frameexpert.com   From: 
framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:02 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: global master page changes I have a document that changes very 
frequently, sometimes every month. The client likes to have a ?version? in the 
header, such as ?March 2013 Version?, ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a 
way to globally revise all of my master pages in the book from say March to 
April in the header title? I?m currently running FM10 and would prefer to do 
this without using framescript since not everyone working with these documents 
has framescript.  Thanks in advance for the help. Tim DeWees
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2013-03-25 Thread Robert Lauriston 
Use one of the Current Date variables, definition modified to
<$monthname> <$year>.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:
> I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
> client likes to have a ?version? in the header, such as ?March 2013
> Version?, ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
> of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?

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2013-03-25 Thread Gillian Flato 
Tim,
In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of your 
running header:

<$monthname> <$year>

Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and you never 
have to change it.

-Gillian

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:02 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: global master page changes

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013 Version", 
"April 2013 Version," etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my master 
pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I'm currently 
running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not 
everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in advance for 
the help.

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2013-03-25 Thread Craig Ede 
I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables
from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used
variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.



Craig



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Subject: global master page changes



I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013
Version", "April 2013 Version," etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.



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2013-03-25 Thread Pat Christenson 
The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will automatically 
update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each month, even if 
the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want the new date only 
when modifications are made, create a user variable that you edit at the time 
of the revisions.

Pat


On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:

> Tim,
> In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of your 
> running header:
>  
> <$monthname> <$year>
>  
> Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and you 
> never have to change it.
>  
> -Gillian
>  
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:02 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: global master page changes
>  
> I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
> client likes to have a ?version? in the header, such as ?March 2013 Version?, 
> ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my 
> master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I?m 
> currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript 
> since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in 
> advance for the help.
>  
> Tim DeWees
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2013-03-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the 
definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything else 
in your files.

I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my 
book whenever I need to do this.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.960.6840 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:

> I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables 
> from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used 
> variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.
>  
> Craig
>  
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:02 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: global master page changes
>  
> I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
> client likes to have a ?version? in the header, such as ?March 2013 Version?, 
> ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my 
> master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I?m 
> currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript 
> since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in 
> advance for the help.
>  
> Tim DeWees
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2013-03-25 Thread Combs, Richard 
Matt Sullivan wrote: 

> Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the
> definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything
> else in your files.
> 
> I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my
> book whenever I need to do this.

Aw, you're just showing off. ;-) 

This is never an issue for me. For any given book, all variables have the same 
definition. I modify variable definitions only in the title page file, from 
which I import them to all the other files in the book. 

Except on the rare occasions that I'm doing major template updates, the first 
thing I do in the Import Formats dialog box is click Deselect All. So long as I 
don't go berserk and abandon that long-standing process, mucking up anything 
else just isn't an issue for me.

Richard G. Combs
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2013-03-25 Thread Rick Quatro 
One potential problem here: File > Import > Formats will import system
variables as well as user variables. Sometimes you will have different
system variable definitions that you may not want to import. That is one of
the reasons I separated system and user variables in my ImportFormatsSpecial
plugin (and script). The MIF fragment would also avoid this potential
problem.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com




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Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; 'Timothy DeWees'
Subject: RE: global master page changes

Matt Sullivan wrote: 

> Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save 
> the definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking 
> anything else in your files.
> 
> I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 
> of my book whenever I need to do this.

Aw, you're just showing off. ;-) 

This is never an issue for me. For any given book, all variables have the
same definition. I modify variable definitions only in the title page file,
from which I import them to all the other files in the book. 

Except on the rare occasions that I'm doing major template updates, the
first thing I do in the Import Formats dialog box is click Deselect All. So
long as I don't go berserk and abandon that long-standing process, mucking
up anything else just isn't an issue for me.

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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2013-03-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Tee hee!

Yes, the book may have the same variables, but the values are typically 
different from those in the template.

For me, I like the MIF option so I don't have to think about where the var defs 
came from, and experience the universal slap-hand-to-forehead moment!

Certainly, though, a YMMV discussion.

-Matt

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On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Combs, Richard"  
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> Aw, you're just showing off. ;-) 

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2013-03-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
I have used it in FM 11 successfully 1/2 dozen times with various clients.

I also highly recommend Rick's ImportFormatsSpecial (even more because he 
updated to FM 11 (to include Object Styles) at my request)

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
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@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:

> I agree that the MIF fragment import is the most elegant (and was my 
> preferred method previously), but  I had no success with import from MIF 
> fragment working with FM11. I haven't tried it with FM10. Can someone else 
> confirm that this no longer works with FM11?
>  
> Craig
>  
> From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt at mattrsullivan.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:20 PM
> To: craigede at hotmail.com
> Cc: 'Timothy DeWees'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: global master page changes
>  
> Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the 
> definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything 
> else in your files.
>  
> I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my 
> book whenever I need to do this.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> Matt R. Sullivan 
> co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
> P: 714.960.6840 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 
> 
> @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook 
> mattrsullivan.com 
>  
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables 
> from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used 
> variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.
>  
> Craig
>  
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:02 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: global master page changes
>  
> I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
> client likes to have a ?version? in the header, such as ?March 2013 Version?, 
> ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my 
> master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I?m 
> currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript 
> since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in 
> advance for the help.
>  
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global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Robert Lauriston 
That's what I suggested. Note that you can't use those in user-defined
variables, you need to edit one of the system date variables. Current
Date (Short) is probably the best choice. You could also use
Modification Date (Short), or the (Long) versions of either.
Modification Date can be problematic if you forget to update before
printing or generating a PDF.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Gillian Flato
 wrote:
> <$monthname> <$year>

global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Gillian Flato 
Additionally, BookVars from Leximation is an excellent program for managing 
variables, and cheap too.

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Subject: Re: global master page changes

Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the 
definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything else 
in your files.

I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my 
book whenever I need to do this.

-Matt
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede mailto:craigede at hotmail.com>> wrote:


I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables from 
a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used variables) 
across the range of files that need to be updated.

Craig

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lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com<mailto:boun...@lists.frameusers.com>] On Behalf Of Timothy 
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Subject: global master page changes

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013 Version", 
"April 2013 Version," etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my master 
pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I'm currently 
running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript since not 
everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in advance for 
the help.

Tim DeWees
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variables imported via MIF fragment WAS: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Craig Ede 
I agree that the MIF fragment import is the most elegant (and was my
preferred method previously), but  I had no success with import from MIF
fragment working with FM11. I haven't tried it with FM10. Can someone else
confirm that this no longer works with FM11?



Craig



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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:20 PM
To: craigede at hotmail.com
Cc: 'Timothy DeWees'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: global master page changes



Perhaps the most elegant way to use the variables method is to save the
definitions as a MIF fragment and eliminate any chance of mucking anything
else in your files.



I refer to "Using MIF Fragments to Update Catalog Settings" on p. 581 of my
book whenever I need to do this.


-Matt

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On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:





I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables
from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used
variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.



Craig



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I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013
Version", "April 2013 Version," etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.



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global master page changes: Timestamp

2013-03-25 Thread gr...@hedgewizard.net 
There is a pair of default FM variables: "Modification date long" and
"Modification date short"  that will do what you want.
Grant

> On March 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM Pat Christenson  wrote:
> 
>  The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will
> automatically update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each
> month, even if the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want
> the new date only when modifications are made, create a user variable that you
> edit at the time of the revisions.
> 
>  Pat
> 
> 
>  On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:
> 
> 
>  > >  Tim,
> >  In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of
> > your running header:
> > 
> >  <$monthname> <$year>
> > 
> >  Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and
> > you never have to change it.
> > 
> >  -Gillian
> > 
> >  From:  framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
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> >  [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy 
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> >  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:02 AM
> >  To: framers at lists.frameusers.com <mailto:framers at 
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> >  Subject: global master page changes
> > 
> >  I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month.
> > The client likes to have a ?version? in the header, such as ?March 2013
> > Version?, ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
> > of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
> > I?m currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
> > framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
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> > 
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