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RE: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-06 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann

Robert,

If you or an associate have access to RoboHelp, you can open and save the HTML 
in RoboHelp, which saves it to XHTML. A slight modification to a structured 
FrameMaker app will open the XHTML as XML. Elements can be mapped to paragraph 
styles that match your existing unstructured FrameMaker document. Then you save 
the *.xml file as unstructured FrameMaker.

I had a larger project that involved converting 400 Eclipse Help files from 
Dreamweaver into unstructured FrameMaker and this worked beautifully. You may 
find a simpler solution if you are not working with very much structure.



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Subject: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it to a 
FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p, strong, ul, ol, 
tables, that's about it.

Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of the 
reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?

I have FrameScript.
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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-06 Thread Robert Lauriston

I'm looking to automate the conversion of HTML tags to FrameMaker tags.

I don't need an app to get plain text. My current process is to copy
from the wiki in normal WYSIWYG mode, paste into a text editor, clean
up, and paste in FrameMaker.

For tables, I copy the wiki HTML source, paste it in a text editor,
delete all the p tags, save as HTML, open the new HTML file, copy,
paste in FrameMaker, and convert to a table.

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Robert,
 I have had to do this in the past. I found a freeware app that will strip
 the HTML tags leaving raw ascii text. I then brought the text in and applied
 the appropriate tags to it. It is a two-step process, but it worked.

 www.freeware.com has an app, html2text that can strip the tags. Of course,
 there are probably others available. Framescript might be able to do it too.
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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-06 Thread Robert Lauriston

I'll give that a try. The source is XHTML so I don't need to go
through RoboHelp.

I tried importing RoboHelp 9-generated XHTML to Structured FrameMaker
10 last year. It failed because RoboHelp generated invalid XHTML:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4450928

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote:
 Robert,

 If you or an associate have access to RoboHelp, you can open and save the 
 HTML in RoboHelp, which saves it to XHTML. A slight modification to a 
 structured FrameMaker app will open the XHTML as XML. Elements can be mapped 
 to paragraph styles that match your existing unstructured FrameMaker 
 document. Then you save the *.xml file as unstructured FrameMaker.

 I had a larger project that involved converting 400 Eclipse Help files from 
 Dreamweaver into unstructured FrameMaker and this worked beautifully. You may 
 find a simpler solution if you are not working with very much structure.
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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-06 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann

Hi Robert, 

I don't know what was different with your project, but my project used the same 
versions of software that you used. I had no problem getting valid XHTML out of 
RoboHELP 9. 

I hope you have success with this technique.

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On May 4, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:

 I'll give that a try. The source is XHTML so I don't need to go
 through RoboHelp.
 
 I tried importing RoboHelp 9-generated XHTML to Structured FrameMaker
 10 last year. It failed because RoboHelp generated invalid XHTML:
 
 http://forums.adobe.com/message/4450928
 
 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote:
 Robert,
 
 If you or an associate have access to RoboHelp, you can open and save the 
 HTML in RoboHelp, which saves it to XHTML. A slight modification to a 
 structured FrameMaker app will open the XHTML as XML. Elements can be mapped 
 to paragraph styles that match your existing unstructured FrameMaker 
 document. Then you save the *.xml file as unstructured FrameMaker.
 
 I had a larger project that involved converting 400 Eclipse Help files from 
 Dreamweaver into unstructured FrameMaker and this worked beautifully. You 
 may find a simpler solution if you are not working with very much structure.
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RE: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-06 Thread Craig Ede

I was going to ask Robert if he was pasting into a structured doc or not as I 
have found this technique useful (but not perfect) for use in DITA docs.

 

Craig

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 3:54 AM
To: Robert Lauriston
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

 

Hi Robert

I don't know which version of FrameMaker you are using, but Fm 11 has Smart 
Paste:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/new-in-framemaker11-xml-authoring-features/framemaker-11-smart-paste-unstruct-content-into-xml/

If you are using DITA-FMx, you need to install this structapps stub first:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-fmx-users/files/

I've just tested this with some content which I copied from our Confluence wiki 
and the results are not perfect but pretty good:

*   The DITA topic is valid right away (no cleanup of the structure 
required).
*   Subheadings in a wiki topic become section titles in a (generic) DITA 
topic.
*   A ul/li in the wiki topic is still a ul/li in the DITA topic.
*   Numbered steps in the wiki topic become ul/li in the DITA topic
*   Typographic elements (b, i, ...) are OK too

Graphics didn't work, but that's obvious. Tables were converted to tables, but 
the heading row was gone.

Also, I used a generic DITA topic. Copying a task description from a wiki and 
pasting the numbered steps into a task topic doesn't work, because the 
structure a task topic has a very specific structure. I guess this could be 
fixed with a topic-to-task-topic transformation, using a Framescript or using 
FrameSLT).

 

Even if you don't write DITA-structured content, I think you could still use 
DITA as an intermediate step:

1.  Create a new generic DITA topic
2.  Copy the body section if your wiki.
3.  Put your cursor in the body element of the DITA topic and choose Edit  
Smart Paste.
4.  Choose Special  Remove Structure from Flow to create an unstructured 
Fm file.
5.  With Framescript or the Paragraph Tools plugin, you can then remap the 
paragraph formats, for example change all [title.1] formats to Heading2.

Cheers

 

 

Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu 

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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-06 Thread Heiko Haida

 

-- http://www.blueberrysoftware.com/htmtomif.htm 

I don't know the
software, but you might give it a try. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida


Am 2013-05-05 10:06, schrieb Shmuel Wolfson: 

 Another option is to
save the webpage to your computer, open it with 
 Word, save it as a
DOC or DOCX file, then open the DOC/DOCX file with Frame.
 

Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson
 Technical Writer
 052-763-7133
 
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04-May-13 1:24 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
 
 I occasionally need to
take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it to a FrameMaker doc. The
wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p, strong, ul, ol, tables,
that's about it. Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or
MIF? Sort of the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go? I have
FrameScript.

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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-05 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

Another option is to save the webpage to your computer, open it with 
Word, save it as a DOC or DOCX file, then open the DOC/DOCX file with Frame.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 04-May-13 1:24 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
to a FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p,
strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.

Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?

I have FrameScript.
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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-05 Thread John Sgammato

An API exists.  Why don't they use it? They failed me before.

On Friday, May 3, 2013, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Robert,
 I have had to do this in the past. I found a freeware app that will strip
the HTML tags leaving raw ascii text. I then brought the text in and
applied the appropriate tags to it. It is a two-step process, but it worked.
 www.freeware.com has an app, html2text that can strip the tags. Of
course, there are probably others available. Framescript might be able to
do it too.
 Dave

 
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 I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
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 strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.

 Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
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2013-05-05 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

Another option is to save the webpage to your computer, open it with 
Word, save it as a DOC or DOCX file, then open the DOC/DOCX file with Frame.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 04-May-13 1:24 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
> to a FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p,
> strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.
>
> Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
> the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?
>
> I have FrameScript.
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importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-05 Thread Heiko Haida



--> http://www.blueberrysoftware.com/htmtomif.htm 

I don't know the
software, but you might give it a try. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida


Am 2013-05-05 10:06, schrieb Shmuel Wolfson: 

> Another option is to
save the webpage to your computer, open it with 
> Word, save it as a
DOC or DOCX file, then open the DOC/DOCX file with Frame.
> 
>
Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> On
04-May-13 1:24 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> 
>> I occasionally need to
take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it to a FrameMaker doc. The
wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p, strong, ul, ol, tables,
that's about it. Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or
MIF? Sort of the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go? I have
FrameScript.


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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-04 Thread Yves Barbion

Hi Robert

I don't know which version of FrameMaker you are using, but Fm 11 has Smart
Paste:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/new-in-framemaker11-xml-authoring-features/framemaker-11-smart-paste-unstruct-content-into-xml/

If you are using DITA-FMx, you need to install this structapps stub first:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-fmx-users/files/

I've just tested this with some content which I copied from our Confluence
wiki and the results are not perfect but pretty good:

- The DITA topic is valid right away (no cleanup of the structure
required).
- Subheadings in a wiki topic become section titles in a (generic) DITA
topic.
- A ul/li in the wiki topic is still a ul/li in the DITA topic.
- Numbered steps in the wiki topic become ul/li in the DITA topic
- Typographic elements (b, i, ...) are OK too

Graphics didn't work, but that's obvious. Tables were converted to tables,
but the heading row was gone.
Also, I used a generic DITA topic. Copying a task description from a wiki
and pasting the numbered steps into a task topic doesn't work, because the
structure a task topic has a very specific structure. I guess this could be
fixed with a topic-to-task-topic transformation, using a Framescript or
using FrameSLT).

Even if you don't write DITA-structured content, I think you could still
use DITA as an intermediate step:

1. Create a new generic DITA topic
2. Copy the body section if your wiki.
3. Put your cursor in the body element of the DITA topic and choose *Edit
Smart Paste*.
4. Choose *Special Remove Structure from Flow* to create an
unstructured Fm file.
5. With Framescript or the Paragraph Tools plugin, you can then remap
the paragraph formats, for example change all [title.1] formats to Heading2.

Cheers

Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-04 Thread Scott Turner

The real question may be is there a method in FM, or a tool that will convert
tags from one to another. I envision a mapping tool like when you convert an
unstructured into a structured document.

On May 4, 2013, at 3:54, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Robert

I don't know which version of FrameMaker you are using, but Fm 11 has Smart
Paste:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/new-in-framemaker11-xml-authoring-features/framemaker-11-smart-paste-unstruct-content-into-xml/

If you are using DITA-FMx, you need to install this structapps stub first:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-fmx-users/files/

I've just tested this with some content which I copied from our Confluence
wiki and the results are not perfect but pretty good:
The DITA topic is valid right away (no cleanup of the structure required).
Subheadings in a wiki topic become section titles in a (generic) DITA topic.
A ul/li in the wiki topic is still a ul/li in the DITA topic.
Numbered steps in the wiki topic become ul/li in the DITA topic
Typographic elements (b, i, ...) are OK too
Graphics didn't work, but that's obvious. Tables were converted to tables,
but the heading row was gone.
Also, I used a generic DITA topic. Copying a task description from a wiki and
pasting the numbered steps into a task topic doesn't work, because the
structure a task topic has a very specific structure. I guess this could be
fixed with a topic-to-task-topic transformation, using a Framescript or
using FrameSLT).

Even if you don't write DITA-structured content, I think you could still use
DITA as an intermediate step:
Create a new generic DITA topic
Copy the body section if your wiki.
Put your cursor in the body element of the DITA topic and choose Edit Smart
Paste.
Choose Special Remove Structure from Flow to create an unstructured Fm file.
With Framescript or the Paragraph Tools plugin, you can then remap the
paragraph formats, for example change all [title.1] formats to Heading2.
Cheers

Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
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2013-05-04 Thread Yves Barbion

Hi Robert

I don't know which version of FrameMaker you are using, but Fm 11 has Smart
Paste:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/new-in-framemaker11-xml-authoring-features/framemaker-11-smart-paste-unstruct-content-into-xml/

If you are using DITA-FMx, you need to install this "structapps stub" first:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-fmx-users/files/

I've just tested this with some content which I copied from our Confluence
wiki and the results are not perfect but pretty good:

Graphics didn't work, but that's obvious. Tables were converted to tables,
but the heading row was gone.
Also, I used a generic DITA topic. Copying a task description from a wiki
and pasting the numbered steps into a task topic doesn't work, because the
structure a task topic has a very specific structure. I guess this could be
fixed with a "topic-to-task-topic" transformation, using a Framescript or
using FrameSLT).

Even if you don't write DITA-structured content, I think you could still
use DITA as an intermediate step:

1. Create a new generic DITA topic
2. Copy the body section if your wiki.
3. Put your cursor in the body element of the DITA topic and choose *Edit
> Smart Paste*.
4. Choose *Special > Remove Structure from Flow* to create an
unstructured Fm file.
5. With Framescript or the Paragraph Tools plugin, you can then remap
the paragraph formats, for example change all [title.1] formats to Heading2.

Cheers

Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
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importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-04 Thread Scott Turner

The real question may be is there a method in FM, or a tool that will convert 
tags from one to another. I envision a mapping tool like when you convert an 
unstructured into  a structured document.

On May 4, 2013, at 3:54, Yves Barbion  wrote:

> Hi Robert
> 
> I don't know which version of FrameMaker you are using, but Fm 11 has Smart 
> Paste:
> 
> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/new-in-framemaker11-xml-authoring-features/framemaker-11-smart-paste-unstruct-content-into-xml/
> 
> If you are using DITA-FMx, you need to install this "structapps stub" first:
> 
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-fmx-users/files/
> 
> I've just tested this with some content which I copied from our Confluence 
> wiki and the results are not perfect but pretty good:
> The DITA topic is valid right away (no cleanup of the structure required).
> Subheadings in a wiki topic become section titles in a (generic) DITA topic.
> A ul/li in the wiki topic is still a ul/li in the DITA topic.
> Numbered steps in the wiki topic become ul/li in the DITA topic
> Typographic elements (b, i, ...) are OK too
> Graphics didn't work, but that's obvious. Tables were converted to tables, 
> but the heading row was gone.
> Also, I used a generic DITA topic. Copying a task description from a wiki and 
> pasting the numbered steps into a task topic doesn't work, because the 
> structure a task topic has a very specific structure. I guess this could be 
> fixed with a "topic-to-task-topic" transformation, using a Framescript or 
> using FrameSLT).
> 
> Even if you don't write DITA-structured content, I think you could still use 
> DITA as an intermediate step:
> Create a new generic DITA topic
> Copy the body section if your wiki.
> Put your cursor in the body element of the DITA topic and choose Edit > Smart 
> Paste.
> Choose Special > Remove Structure from Flow to create an unstructured Fm file.
> With Framescript or the Paragraph Tools plugin, you can then remap the 
> paragraph formats, for example change all [title.1] formats to Heading2.
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yves Barbion
> www.scripto.nu
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2013-05-04 Thread Robert Lauriston

I'm looking to automate the conversion of HTML tags to FrameMaker tags.

I don't need an app to get plain text. My current process is to copy
from the wiki in normal WYSIWYG mode, paste into a text editor, clean
up, and paste in FrameMaker.

For tables, I copy the wiki HTML source, paste it in a text editor,
delete all the p tags, save as HTML, open the new HTML file, copy,
paste in FrameMaker, and convert to a table.

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM, David Spreadbury  wrote:
> Robert,
> I have had to do this in the past. I found a freeware app that will strip
> the HTML tags leaving raw ascii text. I then brought the text in and applied
> the appropriate tags to it. It is a two-step process, but it worked.
>
> www.freeware.com has an app, html2text that can strip the tags. Of course,
> there are probably others available. Framescript might be able to do it too.

importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-04 Thread Robert Lauriston

I'll give that a try. The source is XHTML so I don't need to go
through RoboHelp.

I tried importing RoboHelp 9-generated XHTML to Structured FrameMaker
10 last year. It failed because RoboHelp generated invalid XHTML:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4450928

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann  wrote:
> Robert,
>
> If you or an associate have access to RoboHelp, you can open and save the 
> HTML in RoboHelp, which saves it to XHTML. A slight modification to a 
> structured FrameMaker app will open the XHTML as XML. Elements can be mapped 
> to paragraph styles that match your existing unstructured FrameMaker 
> document. Then you save the *.xml file as unstructured FrameMaker.
>
> I had a larger project that involved converting 400 Eclipse Help files from 
> Dreamweaver into unstructured FrameMaker and this worked beautifully. You may 
> find a simpler solution if you are not working with very much structure.

importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-04 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann

Hi Robert, 

I don't know what was different with your project, but my project used the same 
versions of software that you used. I had no problem getting valid XHTML out of 
RoboHELP 9. 

I hope you have success with this technique.

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On May 4, 2013, at 1:14 PM, "Robert Lauriston"  wrote:

> I'll give that a try. The source is XHTML so I don't need to go
> through RoboHelp.
> 
> I tried importing RoboHelp 9-generated XHTML to Structured FrameMaker
> 10 last year. It failed because RoboHelp generated invalid XHTML:
> 
> http://forums.adobe.com/message/4450928
> 
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann  
> wrote:
>> Robert,
>> 
>> If you or an associate have access to RoboHelp, you can open and save the 
>> HTML in RoboHelp, which saves it to XHTML. A slight modification to a 
>> structured FrameMaker app will open the XHTML as XML. Elements can be mapped 
>> to paragraph styles that match your existing unstructured FrameMaker 
>> document. Then you save the *.xml file as unstructured FrameMaker.
>> 
>> I had a larger project that involved converting 400 Eclipse Help files from 
>> Dreamweaver into unstructured FrameMaker and this worked beautifully. You 
>> may find a simpler solution if you are not working with very much structure.

importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-04 Thread Craig Ede

I was going to ask Robert if he was pasting into a structured doc or not as I 
have found this technique useful (but not perfect) for use in DITA docs.



Craig



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Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 3:54 AM
To: Robert Lauriston
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?



Hi Robert

I don't know which version of FrameMaker you are using, but Fm 11 has Smart 
Paste:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/new-in-framemaker11-xml-authoring-features/framemaker-11-smart-paste-unstruct-content-into-xml/

If you are using DITA-FMx, you need to install this "structapps stub" first:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-fmx-users/files/

I've just tested this with some content which I copied from our Confluence wiki 
and the results are not perfect but pretty good:

*   The DITA topic is valid right away (no cleanup of the structure 
required).
*   Subheadings in a wiki topic become section titles in a (generic) DITA 
topic.
*   A ul/li in the wiki topic is still a ul/li in the DITA topic.
*   Numbered steps in the wiki topic become ul/li in the DITA topic
*   Typographic elements (b, i, ...) are OK too

Graphics didn't work, but that's obvious. Tables were converted to tables, but 
the heading row was gone.

Also, I used a generic DITA topic. Copying a task description from a wiki and 
pasting the numbered steps into a task topic doesn't work, because the 
structure a task topic has a very specific structure. I guess this could be 
fixed with a "topic-to-task-topic" transformation, using a Framescript or using 
FrameSLT).



Even if you don't write DITA-structured content, I think you could still use 
DITA as an intermediate step:

1.  Create a new generic DITA topic
2.  Copy the body section if your wiki.
3.  Put your cursor in the body element of the DITA topic and choose Edit > 
Smart Paste.
4.  Choose Special > Remove Structure from Flow to create an unstructured 
Fm file.
5.  With Framescript or the Paragraph Tools plugin, you can then remap the 
paragraph formats, for example change all [title.1] formats to Heading2.

Cheers





Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu 

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2013-05-03 Thread Robert Lauriston

I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
to a FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p,
strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.

Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?

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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-03 Thread David Spreadbury

Robert,
I have had to do this in the past. I found a freeware app that will strip the 
HTML tags leaving raw ascii text. I then brought the text in and applied the 
appropriate tags to it. It is a two-step process, but it worked.

www.freeware.com has an app, html2text that can strip the tags. Of course, 
there are probably others available. Framescript might be able to do it too.
Dave





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I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
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Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
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2013-05-03 Thread Robert Lauriston

I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
to a FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p,
strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.

Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?

I have FrameScript.

importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-03 Thread David Spreadbury

Robert,
I have had to do this in the past. I found a freeware app that will strip the 
HTML tags leaving raw ascii text. I then brought the text in and applied the 
appropriate tags to it. It is a two-step process, but it worked.

www.freeware.com has an app, html2text that can strip the tags. Of course, 
there are probably others available. Framescript might be able to do it too.
Dave




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>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
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>Subject: importing HTML into FrameMaker?
> 
>
>I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
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>strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.
>
>Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
>the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?
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2013-05-03 Thread John Sgammato

An API exists.  Why don't they use it? They failed me before.

On Friday, May 3, 2013, David Spreadbury  wrote:
> Robert,
> I have had to do this in the past. I found a freeware app that will strip
the HTML tags leaving raw ascii text. I then brought the text in and
applied the appropriate tags to it. It is a two-step process, but it worked.
> www.freeware.com has an app, html2text that can strip the tags. Of
course, there are probably others available. Framescript might be able to
do it too.
> Dave
>
> 
> From: Robert Lauriston 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:24 PM
> Subject: importing HTML into FrameMaker?
>
> I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
> to a FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p,
> strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.
>
> Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
> the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?
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2013-05-03 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann

Robert,

If you or an associate have access to RoboHelp, you can open and save the HTML 
in RoboHelp, which saves it to XHTML. A slight modification to a structured 
FrameMaker app will open the XHTML as XML. Elements can be mapped to paragraph 
styles that match your existing unstructured FrameMaker document. Then you save 
the *.xml file as unstructured FrameMaker.

I had a larger project that involved converting 400 Eclipse Help files from 
Dreamweaver into unstructured FrameMaker and this worked beautifully. You may 
find a simpler solution if you are not working with very much structure.



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I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it to a 
FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p, strong, ul, ol, 
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Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of the 
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Re: Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-22 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions. This is a one-off so I don't  
think I'll use XHTML/Tidy but it's good to know about!


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2007-04-22 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions. This is a one-off so I don't  
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Pat

Re: Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-21 Thread Peter Ring


HTML can be 'normalized' in several automated ways.

Microsoft Word can be a part of the solution -- Word is quite good at 
importing tag-soup HTML. Next step is whatever you usually do to go from 
Word to FrameMaker. I'd try to clean up as much as possible in Word.


If this insn't just a one-off, I'd try using tidy [1]. Tidy can 
transform tag-soup HTML to XHTML, which you can then import to a 
structured FrameMaker document. Tidy comes as a command-line utility, 
but you can also get it integrated into HTML editors such as HTML Kit 
[2] or TopStyle [3], which can also be useful for cleaning up before import.
  This approach requires an initial investment in getting to know tidy 
and FrameMaker's XHTML application.


As usual in conversion projects, it pays off to have a mock-up of the 
final product (complete with TOC and indexes!) and a description, 
feature by feature, of how to get there from the input documents.


[1] http://tidy.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
[3] http://www.newsgator.com/NGOLProduct.aspx?ProdID=TopStyle


kind regards
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I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My guess 
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2007-04-21 Thread Peter Ring

HTML can be 'normalized' in several automated ways.

Microsoft Word can be a part of the solution -- Word is quite good at 
importing tag-soup HTML. Next step is whatever you usually do to go from 
Word to FrameMaker. I'd try to clean up as much as possible in Word.

If this insn't just a one-off, I'd try using tidy [1]. Tidy can 
transform tag-soup HTML to XHTML, which you can then import to a 
structured FrameMaker document. Tidy comes as a command-line utility, 
but you can also get it integrated into HTML editors such as HTML Kit 
[2] or TopStyle [3], which can also be useful for cleaning up before import.
   This approach requires an initial investment in getting to know tidy 
and FrameMaker's XHTML application.

As usual in conversion projects, it pays off to have a mock-up of the 
final product (complete with TOC and indexes!) and a description, 
feature by feature, of how to get there from the input documents.

[1] http://tidy.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
[3] http://www.newsgator.com/NGOLProduct.aspx?ProdID=TopStyle

kind regards
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Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread Pat Christenson


Hi all -

I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My  
guess is that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual  
cleanup. Anybody have any ideas on how to make this less painful?


Thanks.

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Re: Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread Steve Rickaby

At 10:15 -0700 20/4/07, Pat Christenson wrote:

I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My guess is 
that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual cleanup. Anybody have 
any ideas on how to make this less painful?

HTML, or XHTML? If the latter, structured FrameMaker comes with a structured 
app for XHTML. I suppose - although I've not tried it - that this would allow 
you to open XHTML files and maintain their structure: 'all' you'd need to do 
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Re: Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread Pat Christenson


That would help.

I think tables are probably going to be the nightmarish part.

Pat

On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Art Campbell wrote:


I'd at least think about importing the HTML source, rather than
cut-and-pasting from a browser window. If you did that, you should be
able to do a series of find-and-replaces based on your tags
(h1=Heading1) for both paragraphs and characters, and then finish
cleaning up with wildcard based deletions.

Art

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Re: Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread quills


   
 

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   save it out for= matted in RTF. However, I'm not sure that would
   result in parargraph tags r= ather than simple formatting
   instructions.
   


   

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2007-04-20 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi all -

I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My  
guess is that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual  
cleanup. Anybody have any ideas on how to make this less painful?

Thanks.

Pat Christenson

Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread Steve Rickaby

At 10:15 -0700 20/4/07, Pat Christenson wrote:

>I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My guess is 
>that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual cleanup. Anybody have 
>any ideas on how to make this less painful?

HTML, or XHTML? If the latter, structured FrameMaker comes with a structured 
app for XHTML. I suppose - although I've not tried it - that this would allow 
you to open XHTML files and maintain their structure: 'all' you'd need to do 
would be to knock up a style sheet.

-- 
Steve

Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread Art Campbell

I'd at least think about importing the HTML source, rather than
cut-and-pasting from a browser window. If you did that, you should be
able to do a series of find-and-replaces based on your tags
(=Heading1) for both paragraphs and characters, and then finish
cleaning up with wildcard based deletions.

Art

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>
> I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My
> guess is that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual
> cleanup. Anybody have any ideas on how to make this less painful?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread Pat Christenson

It's HTML.

Pat

On Apr 20, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:

> At 10:15 -0700 20/4/07, Pat Christenson wrote:
>
>> I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My  
>> guess is that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual  
>> cleanup. Anybody have any ideas on how to make this less painful?
>
> HTML, or XHTML? If the latter, structured FrameMaker comes with a  
> structured app for XHTML. I suppose - although I've not tried it -  
> that this would allow you to open XHTML files and maintain their  
> structure: 'all' you'd need to do would be to knock up a style sheet.
>
> -- 
> Steve

Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread Pat Christenson

That would help.

I think tables are probably going to be the nightmarish part.

Pat

On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Art Campbell wrote:

> I'd at least think about importing the HTML source, rather than
> cut-and-pasting from a browser window. If you did that, you should be
> able to do a series of find-and-replaces based on your tags
> (=Heading1) for both paragraphs and characters, and then finish
> cleaning up with wildcard based deletions.
>
> Art
>
> On 4/20/07, Pat Christenson  wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My
>> guess is that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual
>> cleanup. Anybody have any ideas on how to make this less painful?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Pat Christenson
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Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)

For the tables you could always import the HTML into Word and export the
tables out as RTF. 

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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That would help.

I think tables are probably going to be the nightmarish part.

Pat

On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Art Campbell wrote:

> I'd at least think about importing the HTML source, rather than 
> cut-and-pasting from a browser window. If you did that, you should be 
> able to do a series of find-and-replaces based on your tags
> (=Heading1) for both paragraphs and characters, and then finish 
> cleaning up with wildcard based deletions.
>
> Art
>
> On 4/20/07, Pat Christenson  wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My 
>> guess is that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual 
>> cleanup. Anybody have any ideas on how to make this less painful?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Pat Christenson

Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2007-04-20 Thread qui...@airmail.net





   You could use a MIF converter. Though if it were only for a few pages
   wi   the Ma   save it out for   result in parargraph tags r   instructions.





   Scott
   On Fri Apr 20 11:15 , Pat Christenson sent:


 Hi all -
 I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My
 guess is that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual
 cleanup. Anybody have any ideas on how to make this less painful?
 Thanks.
 Pat Christenson
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