Re: [Framework-Team] Middleware render on Plone 5

2013-10-01 Thread Laurence Rowe
Diazo is only tested with the lxml HTML parser, I don't know what would happen if you started parsing as XML. Laurence On 1 October 2013 08:22, Giacomo Spettoli giacomo.spett...@gmail.comwrote: +1, I totally agree with this approach. I think it's the natural evolution of rendering contents

Re: [Framework-Team] Not able to attend today's meeting

2011-12-13 Thread Laurence Rowe
I won't be able to make tonight's call either. Apologies, Laurence. On Dec 13, 2011 7:27 PM, Martijn Pieters m...@zopatista.com wrote: I'm sorry, but I won't be able to make it to today's conference call. Hope you have a productive meeting! -- Martijn Pieters

Re: [Framework-Team] BrowserID

2011-07-20 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 20 July 2011 20:25, Alex Limi l...@plone.org wrote: Was asked to put this on your radar by Mozilla: https://browserid.org/developers.html I believe it's a better solution than stuff like OpenID for the average user. Feedback (on both the approach, and whether we should add it to Plone)

Re: [Framework-Team] New Products.TinyMCE release

2011-02-10 Thread Laurence Rowe
Any chance of another release? I've just made a number of changes to support Dexterity and also fixed a bug in setting the image description. Laurence 2011/2/10 Roel Bruggink r...@fourdigits.nl: Eric, all, I've released Products.TinyMCE 1.2.1 and 1.1.7. I've also edited the Plone 4.0 and 4.1

Re: [Framework-Team] Final decision on PLIP 9327 (Unified interface for lists of content)

2011-02-04 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 4 February 2011 17:45, Geir Bækholt pl...@baekholt.com wrote: On 20-01-2011 16:57, Eric Steele wrote: I'd like to get a final consensus on whether or not PLIP 9327 will be included in 4.1. From discussion last week, several of you wanted to hold out until we knew whether collections and

Re: [Framework-Team] Final decision on PLIP 9327 (Unified interface for lists of content)

2011-01-21 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 21 January 2011 17:54, Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net wrote: Alec Mitchell ale...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Geir Bækholt pl...@baekholt.com wrote: On 20-01-2011 16:57, Eric Steele wrote: I'd like to get a final consensus on whether or not PLIP 9327 will be

Re: [Framework-Team] Final decision on PLIP 9327 (Unified interface for lists of content)

2011-01-20 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 20 January 2011 19:07, Alec Mitchell ale...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net wrote: Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu writes: I'd like to get a final consensus on whether or not PLIP 9327 will be included in 4.1. From discussion last week,

Re: [Framework-Team] Zope 2.13 PLIP ready for review

2010-09-13 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 13 September 2010 06:51, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Alexander Limi l...@plone.org wrote: Do we expect Plone 4.1 / Zope 2.13 to be using Python 2.7 by default? (makes sense to me, but not sure if it has other implications that I'm unaware of)

[Framework-Team] Alec's review of PLIP 10877: Separate Products.CMFPlone from the Plone egg and its optional dependencies

2010-09-13 Thread Laurence Rowe
https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.1/plips/plip10877-review-alecm.txt * The PLIP buildout config has an explicit PIL egg dependency, which doesn't appear to exist in the standard buildout. I find this curious. This is because Plone requires PIL but does not

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone roadmap

2010-09-06 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 6 September 2010 03:01, Sidnei da Silva sidnei.da.si...@canonical.com wrote: If I'm allowed to get one suggestion in there: On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: snip WSGI Various components should be move out of Plone and into the WSGI pipeline

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone roadmap

2010-09-05 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 5 September 2010 20:01, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: On 5 September 2010 19:17, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2010 15:29, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: - Once we have intid's we can change the internal unique id of the catalog from

[Framework-Team] Plone roadmap

2010-09-02 Thread Laurence Rowe
With the release of Plone 4.0, I thought it would be useful to set out my understanding of where we are headed with future releases. This draws heavily on conversations with Hanno and focuses on infrastructure rather than user visible changes. The intention is to spark a discussion from which

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #10961 File uploads to folder_contents

2010-08-24 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 24 August 2010 12:19, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: On 23 August 2010 18:18, Geir Bækholt · Jarn baekh...@jarn.com wrote: On 23. aug. 2010, at 16:09, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: I've added

[Framework-Team] PLIP #10964 Asynchronously fetch suggestions for 404 Not Found page

2010-08-23 Thread Laurence Rowe
https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/10964 Motivation: Search engines indexing your site and bots trawling for ASP/PHP security holes can add a significant load to your site. Plone's 404 Not Found page is slow to render as it performs a catalogue search, which exacerbates the problem. Proposal

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #10961 File uploads to folder_contents

2010-08-23 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 23 August 2010 18:18, Geir Bækholt · Jarn baekh...@jarn.com wrote: On 23. aug. 2010, at 16:09, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: I've added downloading multiple files as a zip archive to the proposal. Laurence Isn't that really something completely different than mass uploading

[Framework-Team] Merging strategy for many PLIPs

2010-08-18 Thread Laurence Rowe
In the 4.0 cycle, PLIP branches were merged in one 'big bang' after our implementation review. It was a painful process last time, with 30 PLIPs I don't think it will realistically work this time. Instead of a single deadline, I propose that we ask PLIP implementors to submit their PLIP for

[Framework-Team] PLIP Dependencies

2010-08-17 Thread Laurence Rowe
As an aid to our discussions, I've gone through the 4.1 Plips and documented the dependencies here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AiXg-nyMaQhedENVVllTbDhpb2p4ekU2aGZvd3FFVlEhl=enauthkey=CNj4jckN Laurence ___ Framework-Team mailing list

Re: [Framework-Team] Our next meeting – PLIP-a-tho n part 1

2010-08-16 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 16 August 2010 10:08, Matthew Wilkes matt...@matthewwilkes.co.uk wrote: On 2010-08-12, at 2042, Eric Steele wrote: We've got 30 PLIPs in for 4.1 already (http://dev.plone.org/plone/report/24), so it's time to get together and start talking. Can I assume that next Tuesday at 14:00 UTC

Re: [Framework-Team] z3c.form PLIP?

2010-08-09 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 9 August 2010 01:52, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 8 August 2010 20:33, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Hi. My controlpanel PLIP 10359 (http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/10359) depends on someone else doing the base work of getting z3c.form into 4.1.

[Framework-Team] PLIP #10877 - Separate Products.CMFPlone from the Plone egg and its optional dependencies

2010-08-09 Thread Laurence Rowe
I've added a PLIP for separating out the optional dependencies from Products.CMFPlone: https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/10877 Laurence ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

[Framework-Team] Time for a Plone 3.3.6 release?

2010-06-02 Thread Laurence Rowe
There's quite a lot piling up in the changelog already, I think we're ready for a release. Tests pass, excepting the errors with PlonePAS (see other mail). Laurence 3.3.6 - Unreleased -- - Fix FactoryTool to mangle REQUEST.BASEn correctly. (Merged [36902]). [elro] - Fixed

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-25 Thread Laurence Rowe
I guess I'm -0 on renaming. If someone comes up with a great new name then fine, but given it's one of the two hard problems in computer science, I'm not holding my breath ;) Laurence ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-16 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 15 March 2010 09:13, Alexander Limi l...@plone.org wrote: 2010/3/12 Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: On 12 March 2010 15:07, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Currently listed for Plone 4.x are things like

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-16 Thread Laurence Rowe
By my reading of the html 5 draft, it would seem conformant with the (html5) spec to serve a document with a text/html Content-Type but an XHTML Strict doctype. On 16 March 2010 20:14, Alexander Limi l...@plone.org wrote: What does transitional doctype have to do with geolocation? (and XHTML

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-16 Thread Laurence Rowe
referred to as XHTML5 which is serving it as XML, which isn't what we want to do) On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: By my reading of the html 5 draft, it would seem conformant with the (html5) spec to serve a document with a text/html Content-Type but an XHTML

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-16 Thread Laurence Rowe
— it doesn't buy us anything. The reason the HTML5 doctype is simply: !DOCTYPE html …is that it's the shortest possible string that will trigger strict/standards parsing (ie. not quirks mode) in all browsers, including IE6. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-16 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 16 March 2010 23:37, Alexander Limi l...@plone.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: Unfortunately it's not possible to generate that from an xslt processor / libxml2 / lxml, and in order to trigger the xhtml output mode (so you get br

Re: [Framework-Team] Beta 1 is (essentially) out! FWT, your job is done.

2010-03-12 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 12 March 2010 01:24, Matthew Wilkes matt...@matthewwilkes.co.uk wrote: On 2010-03-09, at 0250, Eric Steele wrote: So... now that those bums are out the door, how do we go about appointing a 4.x team for me to abuse? Well, on a more general note, I think we need a bit better separation

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-12 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 12 March 2010 15:07, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Currently listed for Plone 4.x are things like: ... - Well formed, valid XHTML (as a foundation for easier theming via xdv) Just to note that xdv uses the HTMLParser which is really very tolerant of badly formed markup (an

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 - holidays are over :)

2010-01-06 Thread Laurence Rowe
2010/1/6 Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net: On 2010-01-05, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: A quick poll in #plone-framework showed that myself and Messrs. Glick and Clark had never heard of bin/instance console. We need to document the crap out of that.

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Adding dependency on plone.registry

2009-08-24 Thread Laurence Rowe
I'm +1 on including plone.registry. I'm also +1 on including a z3c.form as a dependency - with Zope 2.12 we won't need the whole pinning pain required for use with. Zope 2.10. Laurence 2009/8/14 Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu: On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Geir Bækholt wrote: In our work on the

[Framework-Team] Re: update on supporting Python 2.6 / Zope 2.12 / CMF 2.2

2009-06-21 Thread Laurence Rowe
Ross Patterson wrote: I think it's important that Plone has at least a welcome page when you install it. Staring at a blank folder_listing is going to put off new users. We can probably bet rid of the News and Events collections, though. I think I'd be opposed to removing the initial content,

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP deadline overly aggressive?

2009-06-20 Thread Laurence Rowe
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Personally I'd be in favor of extending the scope of Plone 4.0 to some degree and making a clear commitment to allow quite a number of the suggested features to be done in the scope of Plone 4.1, 4.2, ... releases. Much of the work that makes up Plone trunk (5.0?) today

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP deadline overly aggressive?

2009-06-20 Thread Laurence Rowe
Matthew Wilkes wrote: On 20 Jun 2009, at 20:54, Laurence Rowe wrote: So if your PLIP isn't ready now, don't worry. There'll be another chance to get it in with 4.1 With the usual caveat that 4.x releases are as ambitious as 3.x releases. The reason we need a 4.0 release is so we can put

Re: [Framework-Team] Multiple workflows (Was: PLIP lifecycle)

2009-01-04 Thread Laurence Rowe
2009/1/2 Martin Aspeli optil...@gmx.net: Tres Seaver wrote: You can actually have multiple workflows for a given type. I may be the only person who has ever actually used the feature, but it is truly helpful at times. I'd be interested to hear what kind of situations it's useful for?

[Framework-Team] Re: More worfklow adapters, status and history

2007-12-20 Thread Laurence Rowe
Alec Mitchell wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 1:07 PM, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 1:36 AM, Laurence Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inspired by Alec's plip #217, I'd like to propose making workflow history/status storage fully pluggable. http://plone.org/products/roadmap

[Framework-Team] Re: Two more PLIPs

2007-12-13 Thread Laurence Rowe
Danny Bloemendaal wrote: On 13 dec 2007, at 08:41, Raphael Ritz wrote: Tom Lazar wrote: On 11.12.2007, at 13:35, Laurence Rowe wrote: I'd like to see the following for 3.1: #210: Improve UI support for objects on multiple workflows DCWorkflow allows for a chain of workflows

[Framework-Team] Two more PLIPs

2007-12-11 Thread Laurence Rowe
I'd like to see the following for 3.1: #210: Improve UI support for objects on multiple workflows DCWorkflow allows for a chain of workflows to be specified for a type. This mostly works with Plone, but there are a few (mostly UI) warts to be fixed. http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/210

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-31 Thread Laurence Rowe
Raphael Ritz wrote: snip/ On a related note: let's not forget that one of the strong points of Zope/Plone has always been the possibility to do many things TTW from a browser. In many real life situations, site admins don't have file system access to the server deploying their site which

[Framework-Team] Re: Base tag

2007-03-11 Thread Laurence Rowe
Martin Aspeli wrote: Geir Bækholt · Plone Solutions wrote: On 9. mar. 2007, at 17.22, Laurence Rowe wrote: I would vote for keeping the base tag anyway, as it would make the site not break if someone makes a wrong link somewhere. Another possibility to help this would be to make all

[Framework-Team] Re: Base tag

2007-03-09 Thread Laurence Rowe
Geir Bækholt · Plone Solutions wrote: On 6. mar. 2007, at 01.23, Martin Aspeli wrote: My point in the bug thread is that I *think* the solution is to make sure slashing of links is always consistent: if it's folderish, put / at the end, if not, don't. I can confirm that the solution is to