Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-07 Thread Raphael Ritz

Andreas Zeidler wrote:

On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote:

So I'd like to reinforce Wicherts call for early submissions.


+1.  any ideas about how to get developers to actually try to commit 
their stuff early?  xmas presents or something? :)


Beer ;-)

Raphael




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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-07 Thread Andreas Zeidler

On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote:

So I'd like to reinforce Wicherts call for early submissions.


+1.  any ideas about how to get developers to actually try to commit  
their stuff early?  xmas presents or something? :)



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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-06 Thread Steve McMahon
No problems here.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Andreas Zeidler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> danny, raphael, and also steve and jon,
>
> would that work for you?  that's to say, realistically, like in being able
> to do all necessary reviews etc on time? :)  if not, please tell us now so
> we can adjust things.  we'd really like to stick with the plan this time...
>
> cheers,
>
>
> andi
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>>
>> The proposal we came up with today at lunch is:
>>
>> The PLIP implementation deadline will be half January, after which the
>> framework team has a two week period to review all PLIPs. This will be
>> followed by a week during which developers can rework their
>> implementation (code, UI or documentation) to solve any problems found
>> by the framework team. The framework team will then have another week
>> during which is will re-evaluate previously rejected PLIPs. That means
>> that half February we will have a final verdict for all PLIPs.
>>
>> In addition people are highly encourages to submit their implementation
>> before the deadline, and the framework team will try to review PLIPs as
>> soon as they are submitted. PLIPs submitted after the deadline will have
>> to wait for 3.4.
>>
>> Steve and Jon will be asked to manage the process and make sure everyone
>> is playing by the rules.
>>
>> Wichert.
>
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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-06 Thread Raphael Ritz

Andreas Zeidler wrote:

danny, raphael, and also steve and jon,

would that work for you?  that's to say, realistically, like in being 
able to do all necessary reviews etc on time? :)


I hope so.
At least I'll try to plan for it to the extend possible.

What I can say today already, however, that it should be
easiest for me to allocate time over the Holidays - late
December/early January that is.

So I'd like to reinforce Wicherts call for early submissions.

Raphael


  if not, please tell us now so we can adjust things.  we'd really 
like to stick with the plan this time...


cheers,


andi


On Nov 5, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

The proposal we came up with today at lunch is:

The PLIP implementation deadline will be half January, after which the
framework team has a two week period to review all PLIPs. This will be
followed by a week during which developers can rework their
implementation (code, UI or documentation) to solve any problems found
by the framework team. The framework team will then have another week
during which is will re-evaluate previously rejected PLIPs. That means
that half February we will have a final verdict for all PLIPs.

In addition people are highly encourages to submit their implementation
before the deadline, and the framework team will try to review PLIPs as
soon as they are submitted. PLIPs submitted after the deadline will have
to wait for 3.4.

Steve and Jon will be asked to manage the process and make sure everyone
is playing by the rules.

Wichert.


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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-06 Thread Danny Bloemendaal

Sorry, wasn't online yesterday but for me this is a good idea.

On 6 nov 2008, at 01:17, Andreas Zeidler wrote:


danny, raphael, and also steve and jon,

would that work for you?  that's to say, realistically, like in  
being able to do all necessary reviews etc on time? :)  if not,  
please tell us now so we can adjust things.  we'd really like to  
stick with the plan this time...


cheers,


andi


On Nov 5, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

The proposal we came up with today at lunch is:

The PLIP implementation deadline will be half January, after which  
the
framework team has a two week period to review all PLIPs. This will  
be

followed by a week during which developers can rework their
implementation (code, UI or documentation) to solve any problems  
found

by the framework team. The framework team will then have another week
during which is will re-evaluate previously rejected PLIPs. That  
means

that half February we will have a final verdict for all PLIPs.

In addition people are highly encourages to submit their  
implementation
before the deadline, and the framework team will try to review  
PLIPs as
soon as they are submitted. PLIPs submitted after the deadline will  
have

to wait for 3.4.

Steve and Jon will be asked to manage the process and make sure  
everyone

is playing by the rules.

Wichert.


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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-05 Thread Andreas Zeidler

danny, raphael, and also steve and jon,

would that work for you?  that's to say, realistically, like in being  
able to do all necessary reviews etc on time? :)  if not, please tell  
us now so we can adjust things.  we'd really like to stick with the  
plan this time...


cheers,


andi


On Nov 5, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

The proposal we came up with today at lunch is:

The PLIP implementation deadline will be half January, after which the
framework team has a two week period to review all PLIPs. This will be
followed by a week during which developers can rework their
implementation (code, UI or documentation) to solve any problems found
by the framework team. The framework team will then have another week
during which is will re-evaluate previously rejected PLIPs. That means
that half February we will have a final verdict for all PLIPs.

In addition people are highly encourages to submit their  
implementation
before the deadline, and the framework team will try to review PLIPs  
as
soon as they are submitted. PLIPs submitted after the deadline will  
have

to wait for 3.4.

Steve and Jon will be asked to manage the process and make sure  
everyone

is playing by the rules.

Wichert.


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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
The proposal we came up with today at lunch is:

The PLIP implementation deadline will be half January, after which the
framework team has a two week period to review all PLIPs. This will be
followed by a week during which developers can rework their
implementation (code, UI or documentation) to solve any problems found
by the framework team. The framework team will then have another week
during which is will re-evaluate previously rejected PLIPs. That means
that half February we will have a final verdict for all PLIPs.

In addition people are highly encourages to submit their implementation
before the deadline, and the framework team will try to review PLIPs as
soon as they are submitted. PLIPs submitted after the deadline will have
to wait for 3.4.

Steve and Jon will be asked to manage the process and make sure everyone
is playing by the rules.

Wichert.

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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-04 Thread Danny Bloemendaal


On 3 nov 2008, at 21:33, Tom Lazar wrote:


On 03.11.2008, at 10:27, Wichert Akkerman wrote:


I've been told the framework team wants to be involved with setting
timeframes for releases. I want to propose to take this one step
further
during the PLIP handling phase: I would like the framework team to
propose a timeline for PLIP implementation and review deadlines.

Can the framework team make a proposal this week?


perhaps, martijn, andi and myself (3/5ths of the team, afterall...)
can jumpstart this with you over lunch day after tomorrow (after andi
arrives here in tønsberg)? my idea is that the four of us could
discuss a proposal which we then send to the list for approval.

cheers,

tom


Excellent idea +1
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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-04 Thread Andreas Zeidler

On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Tom Lazar wrote:

On 03.11.2008, at 10:27, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

I've been told the framework team wants to be involved with setting
timeframes for releases. I want to propose to take this one step  
further

during the PLIP handling phase: I would like the framework team to
propose a timeline for PLIP implementation and review deadlines.

Can the framework team make a proposal this week?


perhaps, martijn, andi and myself (3/5ths of the team, afterall...)  
can jumpstart this with you over lunch day after tomorrow (after  
andi arrives here in tønsberg)? my idea is that the four of us could  
discuss a proposal which we then send to the list for approval.


+1


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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-04 Thread Raphael Ritz

Tom Lazar wrote:

On 03.11.2008, at 10:27, Wichert Akkerman wrote:


I've been told the framework team wants to be involved with setting
timeframes for releases. I want to propose to take this one step further
during the PLIP handling phase: I would like the framework team to
propose a timeline for PLIP implementation and review deadlines.

Can the framework team make a proposal this week?


perhaps, martijn, andi and myself (3/5ths of the team, afterall...) 
can jumpstart this with you over lunch day after tomorrow (after andi 
arrives here in tønsberg)? my idea is that the four of us could 
discuss a proposal which we then send to the list for approval.


Sounds like a plan; have fun in Tønsberg ;-)

Raphael (somewhat further East in Scandinavia)





cheers,

tom




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Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-04 Thread Tom Lazar

On 03.11.2008, at 10:27, Wichert Akkerman wrote:


I've been told the framework team wants to be involved with setting
timeframes for releases. I want to propose to take this one step  
further

during the PLIP handling phase: I would like the framework team to
propose a timeline for PLIP implementation and review deadlines.

Can the framework team make a proposal this week?


perhaps, martijn, andi and myself (3/5ths of the team, afterall...)  
can jumpstart this with you over lunch day after tomorrow (after andi  
arrives here in tønsberg)? my idea is that the four of us could  
discuss a proposal which we then send to the list for approval.


cheers,

tom




Wichert.


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[Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I've been told the framework team wants to be involved with setting
timeframes for releases. I want to propose to take this one step further
during the PLIP handling phase: I would like the framework team to
propose a timeline for PLIP implementation and review deadlines.

Can the framework team make a proposal this week?

Wichert.


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