What I don't get is why people are quibbling about the prices, when the issue
here is that the basic premise of the OP -- that falling value of 16mm
production gear from 1980-2005 provides a serviceable plot point for the
narrative of a novel -- is weak and questionable regardless. If the
Adolfas Mekas always told me he could edit twice as fast on a Moviola
as on a flatbed.
He spoke like a cowboy comparing guns...
At 11:46 -0400 6/07/12, David Tetzlaff wrote:
The upper midwest. There was an upright Moviola in my school's film
lab when I started the masters program in 1978, snd
In a message dated 7/2/2012 10:03:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
djte...@gmail.com writes:
In 1980, an upright Moviola would have been all but worthless. Lord, those
things were awful compared to a flatbed. A 6 plate Moviola flatbed in good
condition might have been worth, I dunno, maybe
No idea. Maybe a university would know if we don¹t. Or a Moviola repair
person. Are there any left?
Or maybe Moviola would know. They might have old catalogues, and they still
exist.
But I think David Tetzlaff¹s comments are pretty accurate.
On 7/2/12 7:44 PM, andrew lampert
On Jul 3, 2012, at 12:03 AM, David Tetzlaff wrote:
With that equipment list, the premise just doesn't work very well. The heyday
of value for 16mm post stuff probably starts to poop out circa 1975, so it
wasn't that expensive by 1980, and some of it is still used by people who
deal with
With that equipment list, the premise just doesn't work very well. The
heyday of value for 16mm post stuff probably starts to poop out circa 1975,
so it wasn't that expensive by 1980, and some of it is still used by people
who deal with prints.
So what were people editing 16mm film
Agree that Moviola flatbeds sucked, though the M77's built-in ashtray and
avocado-green body were truly echt-70s.
I like the ashtray, it is very useful for holding all the screws and washers
and other bits that are constantly falling off the machine.
Also, we had a very skilled operator:
] Interesting (?) Question
Hi,
I received the inquiry below from a novelist and wonder if the collective brain
trust that is Frameworks might help me provide an answer. Anyone have an idea?
If so, I'll pass along your answers/guesses to her. Thanks a lot!
Andrew Lampert
Curator of Collections
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Hi,
I received the inquiry below from
1983-A brand new 6 plate 35mm Steenbeck cost was araund 40K US dollars.
Ouch.
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In 1980, an upright Moviola would have been all but worthless. Lord, those
things were awful compared to a flatbed. A 6 plate Moviola flatbed in good
condition might have been worth, I dunno, maybe $1000.
On the other hand, used splicers and rewinds weren't that expensive in 1980 and
haven't
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