[Frameworks] Jose Luis Rodriguez

2012-08-01 Thread jb.mabe
Does anyone have contact info for San Francisco Super 8 filmmaker Jose
Luis Rodriguez? When I asked a number of years ago, I just got the
phone number of a vintage store he might have worked at... so I'm
hoping he's gotten a little easier to track down.

Best,
Josh
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[Frameworks] Lucile HADZIHALILOVIC

2012-08-01 Thread Anastasia Tsarkova
Dear Frameworkers,

Could anyone please tell me how I can get in contact with Lucile
Hadzihalilovic?

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Cordialement,
Anastasia Tsarkova
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Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed

2012-08-01 Thread jb.mabe
Gotta show 'em Rob Todd's Star Wars wipe-transitions edit...


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.netwrote:

 Hi All,

 Looking for examples for the Experimental Editing class I'm teaching again
 (solo this time!). I'm set with the actual experimental work, but want to
 show more clips from non-experimental films, particularly narrative, that
 utilize experimental editing techniques.  Ideally things from the past 20
 or so years, that would be in the average 20-ish year old film student's
 frame of reference. Blockbusters, mall pictures, Hollywood, international
 art house cinema, etc. I don't ordinarily see a lot of this work, so would
 welcome any ideas (cite a scene or specific part if you can).  Two of the
 films that the kids pick on their own for their presentations are RUN LOLA
 RUN and ENTER THE VOID, for example.

 Best,

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Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed

2012-08-01 Thread Chuck Kleinhans


There's a very good discussion of a scene in The Matrix and how the editing is 
directed by Dolby 5.1 sound as the organizing principle for understanding space 
and narration in the sequence where Neo enters a high rise office building and 
with his companion and has to gun his way through the lobby against dozens of 
opponents.

Mark Kerins, Beyond Dolby (Stereo): Cinema in the Digital Sound Age. 
Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 2010.

This is excellent for showing students how conventional editing can be 
surpassed by a technological change which allows for new ways to configure 
space and time.

Chuck Kleinhans
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Re: [Frameworks] Trust your instinct and don't go for the cliche.

2012-08-01 Thread Freya

I didn't write it. I just thought it was a bit of a giggle. Especially the line 
I chose for the subject! ;)

You are right tho Chuck, if it encourages someone to have some fun then that is 
surely a wonderful thing. :)

love

Freya


--- On Tue, 7/31/12, Chuck Kleinhans chuck...@northwestern.edu wrote:

 From: Chuck Kleinhans chuck...@northwestern.edu
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trust your instinct and don't go for the cliche.
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 10:10 PM
 Ahh, I think David Woods might have
 missed the smiley emoticon at the end of Freya's rec.
 
 I assumed (could be wrong) that Freya stumbled on this item
 and was passing it on with a laugh, not that Freya was the
 original author of the advice wiki.
 
 On the other hand, I remember a home movie maker magazine
 from the 1970s era (Super 8 Filmmaker?) that always had lots
 of handy advice on matters like how to do gory makeup for
 your little horror film, or how to do stop motion animation
 of toys to make a Godzilla rip-off or how to film
 underwater scenes using your aquarium.  Hey, if it
 gets folks to pick up a camera and start to play with it and
 have fun, what's the problem?
 
 Chuck Kleinhans
 
 
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com
 [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com]
 On Behalf Of Freya
  Sent: 29 June 2012 11:59
  To: Experimental Film Discussion List
  Subject: [Frameworks] Trust your instinct and don't go
 for the cliche.
  
  
  How to make a good experimental film.
  
  Just follow the forumla/magic steps in this handy wiki
 and you will be well on your way! :)
  
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Trust your instinct and don't go for the cliche.

2012-08-01 Thread Freya

 Perhaps having not contributed /
 followed FRAMEWORKS since its earlier incarnation when film
 was film and frameworks was film, it is wasted energy to
 complain / confront / oppose / question Freya's contribution
 from back in June (Sent: 29 June 2012

Yowch! When did film stop being film!?
Must have missed it!

I thought you had been here ages David. In my imagination in fact you were 
always here, and always will be. :)

love

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Re: [Frameworks] Trust your instinct and don't go for the cliche.

2012-08-01 Thread Freya

This made me really giggle after a couple of difficult days! Thankyou!

I think we definitely need to share the terror.
love
Freya

--- On Tue, 7/31/12, Thomas Dexter thomas.dex...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Thomas Dexter thomas.dex...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trust your instinct and don't go for the cliche.
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:44 PM

you will have to decide on a subject, whether nature, comedy, terror, romance, 
or art.


I'll take TERROR.


-t



On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 AM, David Woods dwo...@holcus.karoo.co.uk wrote:


Perhaps having not contributed / followed FRAMEWORKS since its earlier 
incarnation when film was film and frameworks was film, it is wasted energy to 
complain / confront / oppose / question Freya's contribution from back in June 
(Sent: 29 June 2012 11:59).   But I will.



Trust is conservative, reactionary, safe, passive

Your is possessive

Instinct is plain wrong; perhaps Freya means intuition, but it is unlikely that 
film imperatives / drives / inclinations / choices have any instinctual basis

And - well there's always an and in a homily; it gives the appearance of option 
/ choice / complexity

Don't go for the - beware / danger / pergwl is it / naughty / forbidden fruit / 
breaking the fast / ignoring commandments / the way to oblivion of the soul

Cliché - well that puts pay to many experimental films which play with cliché, 
doesn't it



And as for the wet site which tell you how to make a (good) experimental film, 
I'd have it taken down if I could, as it is written by persons of limited 
understanding, cultural depth and knowledge.

Better would be advice as to which books to read, films to see, thoughts to 
explore.

Sorry Freya, your advice is a distraction.



Now if you want to witness and learn from the fount of knowledge, then I 
suggest .(the message was interrupted at this point by the forces of 
convention)



-Original Message-

From: frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com 
[mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Freya



Sent: 29 June 2012 11:59

To: Experimental Film Discussion List

Subject: [Frameworks] Trust your instinct and don't go for the cliche.





How to make a good experimental film.



Just follow the forumla/magic steps in this handy wiki and you will be well on 
your way! :)



http://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Good-Experimental-Film



love



Freya

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[Frameworks] rick prelinger

2012-08-01 Thread Gene Youngblood
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[Frameworks] Chris Marker Free Screening Sun 26th August @ LightIndustry (NY?)

2012-08-01 Thread Freya

I was very sad to hear about the passing away of Chris Marker as you know, 
although I had a big smile on my face that afternoon remembering all the things 
I love about his film Sans-Soliel.

You can see that and a whole marathon of Marker at lightindustry on the 26th.

http://www.lightindustry.org/forchrismarker

Looks awesome, sadly I can't make it for various reasons but do check it out!

love

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Re: [Frameworks] Chris Marker Free Screening Sun 26th August @ LightIndustry (NY?)

2012-08-01 Thread Cari Machet
i did not know you lived in nyc - freya

On 8/1/12, Freya freya...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was very sad to hear about the passing away of Chris Marker as you know,
 although I had a big smile on my face that afternoon remembering all the
 things I love about his film Sans-Soliel.

 You can see that and a whole marathon of Marker at lightindustry on the
 26th.

 http://www.lightindustry.org/forchrismarker

 Looks awesome, sadly I can't make it for various reasons but do check it
 out!

 love

 Freya
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Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed

2012-08-01 Thread David Tetzlaff
The opening of 'Don't Look Now'. Works great with students.

Also Roeg incuts sex with a tracheotomy in Bad Timing which, while 
'experimental'ish (Eisensteinian for sure) may be dicey for students due to the 
subject matter.

As in the montages in 'Requiem...' narrative filmmakers often turn to 
avant-garde motifs when they want to represent subjective experience outside of 
normal consciousness: drugs in that case, but extreme stress etc. in others. So 
you'll find some things in films like Donnie Darko, Memento, Fight Club...
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Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed

2012-08-01 Thread Matt Helme
Process Red and Critical Mass by Hollis Frampton.
 
Matt


http://www.youtube.com/user/matthelme007
 


 From: Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed
   
Check out the non-cut space/time transitions in John Sayles' LONE STAR. 
Interesting and a wonderful effect. 

Tim
Sent from my iPhone
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Hi All, 
Looking for examples for the Experimental Editing class I'm teaching again 
(solo this time!). I'm set with the actual experimental work, but want to show 
more clips from non-experimental films, particularly narrative, that utilize 
experimental editing techniques.  Ideally things from the past 20 or so years, 
that would be in the average 20-ish year old film student's frame of 
reference. Blockbusters, mall pictures, Hollywood, international art house 
cinema, etc. I don't ordinarily see a lot of this work, so would welcome any 
ideas (cite a scene or specific part if you can).  Two of the films that the 
kids pick on their own for their presentations are RUN LOLA RUN and ENTER THE 
VOID, for example.  
Best,
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm -- HD -- 16mm

2012-08-01 Thread Amy Basen
Hey Jodie,
I thought the same thing. The keycode is in the metadata so you don't need
the window burn (except when you do).

My EDL did not match my neg because my flex files were a total mess.
Fotokem did the telecine to HDCAM, created the ProRes files and created the
flex files. I thought I was saving time and money. It should have worked,
but it turned into a massive headache instead. I had to crosscheck the
Cinema Tools flex file keycode against the ProRes file which I checked
against the work print - then I had to enter the actual/accurate keycode
manually in Cinema Tools. It really makes you doubt when cutting your neg.

Editing from a window burn version doesn't guarantee against bad EDLs. My
friend had the EDL problem as well, but was able to crosscheck against his
window burn. It makes it easier to correct and to do so confidently. I
completely understand neg cutters requiring that.

Skipping a step is only a time saver if the step was unnecessary which can
only be determined in hindsight.

If you still want to go that route, I would recommend you make sure the lab
knows which version of FCP you are using. They need to make the flex files
in that version and you need to stay in that version. This all happened
when the school was between 6 and 7, so it could have caused or
exacerbated  the problem, but Fotokem wasn't sure.

:)
amy


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Jodie Mack jodiemac...@hotmail.com wrote:




 Calling all contemporary workflow afficionados!



 I am working on a new 16mm project and considering making an EDL from a
 telecine via Cinema Tools and FCP.  From the EDL, I will cut my negative
 and make a sound print via A/B rolls.



 This will be my first time using a telecine and Cinema Tools to edit, and
 most of the information I’ve found involves a two-transfer telecine process
 (all dailies in SD first then select shots from EDL in HD).



 My shooting ratio is fairly low. I’d like to avoid transferring twice and
 use my HD edit as my video master. So, if possible, I’d like to just go
 ahead and transfer my rushes to HD Pro Res 24fps (no window burn) with
 Evertz keylog file, edit in FCP, generate an EDL, and cut my negative
 without running into any issues (3:2 pulldown or otherwise). Can any of you
 foresee any problems with this simplified, online-all-the-time workflow?



 Am I being naïve? I feel like this method could work for me - the two
 transfer process seems designed for large-scale productions.



 If any of you have worked this way or teach this workflow, I’d surely
 appreciate any advice you can offer.



 All the best,



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Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed

2012-08-01 Thread Kenneth Bawcom
From Hollywood, of course the classic editing scene is the shower scene in
Psycho. But, my highest recommendation for editing in main-stream film is
the amazing The Hurt Locker, which is the most tightly edited film,
throughout, that I've ever seen. And, it won an Academy Award.


Ken B.

Those who would give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty, nor safety.
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I know that the hypnotized never lie... Do ya?
Pete Townshend 1971


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.netwrote:

 Hi All,

 Looking for examples for the Experimental Editing class I'm teaching again
 (solo this time!). I'm set with the actual experimental work, but want to
 show more clips from non-experimental films, particularly narrative, that
 utilize experimental editing techniques.  Ideally things from the past 20
 or so years, that would be in the average 20-ish year old film student's
 frame of reference. Blockbusters, mall pictures, Hollywood, international
 art house cinema, etc. I don't ordinarily see a lot of this work, so would
 welcome any ideas (cite a scene or specific part if you can).  Two of the
 films that the kids pick on their own for their presentations are RUN LOLA
 RUN and ENTER THE VOID, for example.

 Best,

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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for a good lab

2012-08-01 Thread Dennis Doros
Hi, Lourdes,

It really depends on location, money and how much care you want.

On the boutique scale, I assume Film Technology still does 16mm. You can
start with my friend Zac Fink at filmtech...@earthlink.net. They did the
16mm fine grain on KILLER OF SHEEP before they blew it up to 35mm.

You also might want to try Fotokem. They're larger, but they've done
excellent work for us. (EXILES, ARAYA, CONNECTION, ORNETTE.) My
email-friend there is Kim Young (kyo...@fotokem.com).

You can say I sent you with either one.

On the East Coast, I like Cineric, Colorlab and Cinema Arts.



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 Hello,
 i would be very grateful if someone could recommend a lab that does
 excellent work, I need to make some 16mm.prints.
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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for a good lab

2012-08-01 Thread Lourdes Portillo

Hi Dennis,

Thank you so much.  This is for NYMoMA where I just had a  
Retrospective and they are acquiring eight of my films for their  
archives, so it is really good work that I need. I also have some  
films on video, and wonder if it's better to deliver them in DigiBeta  
or in a a drive? Do you have any suggestions of what might be better?
I will call both of your contacts and check it out and tell them you  
sent me.  I thank you very much.

Lourdes


On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Dennis Doros wrote:


Hi, Lourdes,

It really depends on location, money and how much care you want.

On the boutique scale, I assume Film Technology still does 16mm. You  
can start with my friend Zac Fink at filmtech...@earthlink.net. They  
did the 16mm fine grain on KILLER OF SHEEP before they blew it up to  
35mm.


You also might want to try Fotokem. They're larger, but they've done  
excellent work for us. (EXILES, ARAYA, CONNECTION, ORNETTE.) My  
email-friend there is Kim Young (kyo...@fotokem.com).


You can say I sent you with either one.

On the East Coast, I like Cineric, Colorlab and Cinema Arts.



Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film  Video/Milliarium Zero
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
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Hello,
i would be very grateful if someone could recommend a lab that does
excellent work, I need to make some 16mm.prints.
Thanks,
lourdes Portillo
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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for a good lab

2012-08-01 Thread Adam Hyman
Dear Lourdes,

In any agreement with MOMA, make sure the contract specifies that your films
will be available for rental in the distribution catalogue effective X date,
and they will always keep prints/tapes available for rent.  And other
details.  MoMA is happy to throw things in their archive never to be seen
again, if they don¹t have extra copies available for rent.  They have all
sorts of things that no one can actually access or view (except in their
collection in Pennsylvania or wherever it is).

Best regards,

Adam




On 8/1/12 7:09 PM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Lourdes,
 
 My pleasure. I suspect the archivists on this list (like Mark Toscano and
 Andrew Lampert) would have good ideas as well. As for the video, I would talk
 to MoMA's Katie Trainor (katie_trai...@moma.org) -- another old friend and
 head of their archive -- and see what they would like. Getting them digitized
 properly would be good for distribution later on but I suspect they will want
 tape.
 
 Best,
 Dennis
 
 On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Lourdes Portillo lporti...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Dennis,
 
 Thank you so much.  This is for NYMoMA where I just had a Retrospective and
 they are acquiring eight of my films for their archives, so it is really good
 work that I need. I also have some films on video, and wonder if it's better
 to deliver them in DigiBeta or in a a drive? Do you have any suggestions of
 what might be better?
 I will call both of your contacts and check it out and tell them you sent me.
  I thank you very much.
 Lourdes
 
 
 On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Dennis Doros wrote:
 
 Hi, Lourdes,
 
 It really depends on location, money and how much care you want. 
 
 On the boutique scale, I assume Film Technology still does 16mm. You can
 start with my friend Zac Fink at filmtech...@earthlink.net. They did the
 16mm fine grain on KILLER OF SHEEP before they blew it up to 35mm.
  
 
 You also might want to try Fotokem. They're larger, but they've done
 excellent work for us. (EXILES, ARAYA, CONNECTION, ORNETTE.) My email-friend
 there is Kim Young (kyo...@fotokem.com). 
  
 
 You can say I sent you with either one.
 
 On the East Coast, I like Cineric, Colorlab and Cinema Arts. 
 
 
 
 Best regards,
  Dennis Doros
 Milestone Film  Video/Milliarium Zero
 PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
 Phone: 201-767-3117 tel:201-767-3117  / Fax: 201-767-3035
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[Frameworks] Open Road on USA Projects - 1 Day Remaining

2012-08-01 Thread 40 Frames
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1 day remaining! for my USA Projects campaign to help support the
completion of Open Road.

I hope you will join RACC.org and the 39 amazing individuals who have
already made a contribution. All donations are tax deductible, and though
“perks” start at $25, donations of any dollar amount are welcome.

“What are the Perks?”, you ask...

A contribution of $25 gets you...
A comp ticket to a screening of Open Road, either at the Portland premiere,
or when it comes to your town. And Open Road will come to your town!

$50 gets you...
A comp ticket to a screening of Open Road, plus a DVD of Open Road. A DVD
that will not be available for retail sale, so a rare item indeed.

$100 gets you...
Comp tickets for you plus one, plus the DVD, and a copy of the book Empty
Quarter: Notes and Pictures. This book, now currently in the layout and
design phase, is a supplement to Pam Minty and Alain LeTourneau’s
experimental documentary Empty Quarter. The book contains essays by
filmmakers and scholars, transcripts from interviews in the film,
geographic information on southeast Oregon (the region documented in the
film), and images from location stills and 16mm out takes from the
production.

$250 gets you...
Comp tickets for you plus one, DVD, book, and dinner for two! Yes, it’s
true, I can cook, and I’m not too bad at it. I will cook you and a guest a
lovely home cooked meal, either at our home, or yours. The meal is meat or
veggie, whatever your preference, wine or your beverage of choice and bit
of sweets after the meal. And if the weather is pleasant I can serve the
meal outside.

$500 gets you...
Comp tickets for you plus three, DVD, book, and dinner for four. What I say
I will do above for two, I can magically do for four as well.

You can find more details about Open Road and make a donation at the link
below.
http://www.usaprojects.org/project/open_road

All donations are tax deductible!*
*

Open Road featured on Portland Architecture Blog:
http://portlandarchitecture.com/


Sincerely,
Alain LeTourneau*


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