Re: [Frameworks] [Experimental Film Discussion List] Super8 BW help

2012-09-20 Thread David Tetzlaff
It's actually not that hard to sync up 'wild' sound to transferred film footage 
within a video editing program such as Final Cut or Premiere. First, make sure 
you do sync claps at the beginning and end of each shot. Then modify the audio 
duration and/or film duration to match one another. You'll be changing the film 
duration anyway if you shoot at 18fps. I doubt there will be significant drift 
within a shot if you get the beginning and end lined up right, but if there is 
any, you can tweak it with audio edits inside the clip.

If you're going to wind up in video (e.g. DVD) the problem with shooting 
lip-synch on Super-8 isn't the sync, it's the noise of the camera. Normal Super 
8 cameras aren't blimped, and will be quite audible if you're shooting a dialog 
scene for example. I don't have experience with the models that were designed 
for using sound-striped stock - I would assume they're more quiet, but by how 
much, I don't know.

Of course, you can always go full Hollywood, use your live recording as a 
scratch track, create a homebrew ADR setup and post-dub the whole thing. (FWIW, 
I don't recommend that. Very hard to get results that either fit the lip 
movement or sound at all natural...)
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Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?

2012-09-20 Thread flick harrison
Interesting question.

1. GETTING THE FILES

Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size limits are 
better on dropbox.  But any files you get from other people add to your own 
quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything happening without 
maybe confounding your senders.

I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web interface 
so they could send you raw files.  Never set one up but I've seen them.  In any 
case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have to expect the shooters 
to understand FTP.

You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and then rip the 
files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin.  This would be clunky and 
usually results in (BIG!) quality loss.

Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality file as a 
download link for anyone who sees the video.  You can password-protect videos 
there so they aren't available to the general public.  But then folks would 
have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to get a 
reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb total files 
per week, thus more headaches).

But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the full-quality 
master footage?  Or are they limited to BS options like Share - Youtube, 
Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether?  It's the result of the 
War on General Purpose Computing.

2. USING THE FILES

This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and sundry had 
a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size so on.  Premier 
or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but I did encounter 
the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one had ever heard of 
except them.

AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the file 
structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole PRIVATE folder 
and that kinda thing.  Etc etc.

The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between two people, 
surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general public is asking for 
trouble.  But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects so please let me 
know how it develops!

Good Luck!

-Flick



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Re: [Frameworks] buying film in Paris

2012-09-20 Thread Pip Chodorov
Fuji has an office at 63 Avenue de Villiers 75017 Paris, tel 01 47 63 97 68.
But they do not make reversal stock.
Kodak's office moved outside Paris to Alfortville but you can get 
there on the RER.
They do not carry Hi-Con in Paris, best to bring it with you.
I sell Super-8 at my shop Re:Voir - I may be able to order 16mm for 
you if you tell me what you want in advance. The address is 43 rue du 
Faubourg St Martin 75010 Paris, tel 09 54 225 111.
Pip

At 14:53 -0700 20/09/12, katherine Bauer wrote:
I am about to move to Paris for 9 months and I wanted to know if 
anyone could suggest how to order 16mm film. Any stocks, but 
preferably Color Reversal or Black and White Reversal, Hi-con.
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