[Frameworks] Fomapan

2014-03-28 Thread Steven

Does anyone know of any labs that currently process Fomapan in Regular 8?

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[Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Scott Stark
Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a 
local (Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is 
definitely top of the list. Any ideas for other films that have been 
banned, censored or otherwise disparaged for risque content? 
(experimental preferred)


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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Adam Hyman
Scorpio Rising

Dashed off on a mobile telephonic device.

On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Scott Stark sst...@hi-beam.net wrote:

 Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local 
 (Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is definitely top of 
 the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or 
 otherwise disparaged for risque content? (experimental preferred)
 
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Pablo Marin
Un chant d'amour (on top of the top)

best,
p.



On Friday, March 28, 2014 10:48 AM, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote:
 
Scorpio Rising

Dashed off on a mobile telephonic device.

On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Scott Stark sst...@hi-beam.net wrote:

 Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local 
 (Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is definitely top of 
 the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or 
 otherwise disparaged for risque content? (experimental preferred)
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Fomapan

2014-03-28 Thread Scott Dorsey
The problem is twofold: 

1. Processing BW reversal

2. Slitting 8mm.

There are lots of labs that can do the first, including Cinelab.  The second
one is hard to do well.
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Herb Shellenberger
Alice Ann Parker's Near the Big Chakra http://aliceanneparker.com/movie-uproar/

Barbara Rubin's Christmas on Earth (After a handful of screenings in the mid- 
to late- 1960′s, Christmas On Earth remained unseen for years as per Rubin’s 
instructions for the film to be destroyed. Luckily, Mekas did not follow 
through on Rubin’s request, as she later changed her mind and allowed him to 
screen and distribute the film.)

Robert Frank's Cocksucker Blues

Herb Shellenberger
Programs Office Manager

3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
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Subject: [Frameworks] banned films?

Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local 
(Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is definitely top of 
the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or 
otherwise disparaged for risque content? 
(experimental preferred)

thanks,
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Anderwald + Grond
Hans Richter's Vormittagsspuk, with an soundtrack by Paul Hindemith has been 
banned by the Nazis, a copy of the film survived, but not the original music 
piece for automatic piano.

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 Am 28.03.2014 um 15:55 schrieb Herb Shellenberger he...@ihphilly.org:
 
 Alice Ann Parker's Near the Big Chakra 
 http://aliceanneparker.com/movie-uproar/
 
 Barbara Rubin's Christmas on Earth (After a handful of screenings in the 
 mid- to late- 1960′s, Christmas On Earth remained unseen for years as per 
 Rubin’s instructions for the film to be destroyed. Luckily, Mekas did not 
 follow through on Rubin’s request, as she later changed her mind and allowed 
 him to screen and distribute the film.)
 
 Robert Frank's Cocksucker Blues
 
 Herb Shellenberger
 Programs Office Manager
 
 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
 phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
 email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org
 
 
 
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 Scott Stark
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 Subject: [Frameworks] banned films?
 
 Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local 
 (Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is definitely top of 
 the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or 
 otherwise disparaged for risque content? 
 (experimental preferred)
 
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Abigail Severance
A few years back the state of Michigan cut funds to the Ann Arbor FF, citing a 
list of 'pornographic' films the festival had programmed. (Some of the films 
had sex and some didn't.) AAFF fought it in court and won. I'm sure there's a 
list of the films somewhere...

More here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9015524
http://www.indiewire.com/festival/ann_arbor_film_festival

On Mar 28, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Scott Stark wrote:

 Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local 
 (Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is definitely top of 
 the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or 
 otherwise disparaged for risque content? (experimental preferred)
 
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Francisco Torres
Triumph of the Will was banned after WW2 in most of the civilized world,
maybe for good reasons. Still believe it may be banned in Germany and other
European countries.
Ps- Even if we may think it makes the Nazis silly, which it does.


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not experimental, and not erotic - unless you have a kink I'd rather not
 discuss :-) - but the first work that comes to my mind when you say banned
 film is Titticut Follies. And there is definitely a body horror thing at
 work there...

 Continuing with the 'docs', but both more experimental and dealing with
 erotics (if not, in itself, erotic), Tongues Untied which PBS refused to
 show.

 Also repressed by PBS - the amazing Seventeen by Joel Demott and some
 guy who makes film scanners or something :-). Not 'erotic' but the
 depiction of an inter-racial relationship was one of the elements that got
 it essentially 'banned'.

 Not actually 'banned', but the Fox News jeremiad against the NEA for
 having funded a film organization that screened Thundercrack probably
 justifies putting that on the list.


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Re: [Frameworks] Fomapan

2014-03-28 Thread Jeff Kreines
Of course, Kinetta Archival can scan un-slit Double-8, so if you don’t need to 
project or print it, that’s another option.

On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 The problem is twofold: 
 
 1. Processing BW reversal
 
 2. Slitting 8mm.
 
 There are lots of labs that can do the first, including Cinelab.  The second
 one is hard to do well.
 --scott

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Kinetta
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kinetta.com
kinettaarchival.com


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Re: [Frameworks] Fomapan

2014-03-28 Thread Buck Bito - Movette
Hi Steven,
I haven't confirmed, but Yale in Burbank still lists it on their
processing page:
Adox, Fomapan, Orwo: $17.00
http://yalefilmandvideo.com/filmprocessing8mm.php?expandable=2

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(Valencia at 25th St.)
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4
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On Fri, March 28, 2014 5:00 am, Steven wrote:
 Does anyone know of any labs that currently process Fomapan in Regular 8?

 Thanks

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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread David Tetzlaff
Not experimental, and not erotic - unless you have a kink I'd rather not 
discuss :-) - but the first work that comes to my mind when you say banned 
film is Titticut Follies. And there is definitely a body horror thing at 
work there...

Continuing with the 'docs', but both more experimental and dealing with erotics 
(if not, in itself, erotic), Tongues Untied which PBS refused to show.

Also repressed by PBS - the amazing Seventeen by Joel Demott and some guy who 
makes film scanners or something :-). Not 'erotic' but the depiction of an 
inter-racial relationship was one of the elements that got it essentially 
'banned'.

Not actually 'banned', but the Fox News jeremiad against the NEA for having 
funded a film organization that screened Thundercrack probably justifies 
putting that on the list.


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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread David Tetzlaff
 Triumph of the Will was banned after WW2 in most of the civilized world, 
 maybe for good reasons.

And it's erotic in it's own twisted way, which is one of the reasons it's so 
disturbing, the erotic energy all being displaced from the personal sphere, and 
into the public sphere, and all directed at Hitler.
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Gene Youngblood
Brakhage, Lovemaking' Anger, Fireworks; Gustav Machaty, Ecstasy; 
Bunuel, L'Age d'Or; Louis Malle, The Lovers.


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Triumph of the Will was banned after WW2 in most of the civilized world, 
maybe for good reasons.


And it's erotic in it's own twisted way, which is one of the reasons it's so 
disturbing, the erotic energy all being displaced from the personal sphere, 
and into the public sphere, and all directed at Hitler.

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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Gene Youngblood
Wasn’t Brakhage’s “Lovemaking” pulled from distribution because of the children 
in  it? How about Anger’s “Fireworks” and Bunuel’s “L’Age d’Or”? Films are 
often commercially self-restricted (not censored per se), like feature films 
that transgress norms. “Ecstasy” and Louis Malle’s “The Lovers” come to mind. 
 

From: Pablo Marin 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

Un chant d'amour (on top of the top)


best,
p.



On Friday, March 28, 2014 10:48 AM, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote:

Scorpio Rising

Dashed off on a mobile telephonic device.

On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Scott Stark sst...@hi-beam.net wrote:

 Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local 
 (Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is definitely top of 
 the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or 
 otherwise disparaged for risque content? (experimental preferred)
 
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Gary Thomas
In the UK film censorship (as opposed to certification) rests with local 
government - and in the 1980s, London County Council had a slightly more 
relaxed attitude than the rest of the country - Pasolini's Salo showed in a 
porn theatre. 

I'm sure Mano Destra and Fuses had problems. The London Filmmakers Coop, the 
Scala, and other repertory cinemas were able to get round things a bit by being 
'membership' cinemas. (And before them, the Arts Lab, where David Curtis 
screened Flaming Creatures. I may have this wrong, but I think it was also 
screened for Princess Margaret.)

Taxi Zum Klo was banned for a time. The Night Porter. Cronenberg's Crash. Louis 
Malle's Pretty Baby.

A Clockwork Orange was removed from distribution at the behest of Kubrick 
himself. Natural Born Killers couldn't be shown for some time because of 
certification issues. Ken Russell's The Devils was banned around the world. I'm 
possibly straying from the 'erotic' with those. Possibly...

Bruce Le Bruce's LA Zombies was banned in Melbourne I think. Jarman's 
Sebastiane in Ontario. I'm sure Fritz the Cat was banned somewhere..



 
On 28 Mar 2014, at 17:10, Francisco Torres wrote:

 Triumph of the Will was banned after WW2 in most of the civilized world, 
 maybe for good reasons. Still believe it may be banned in Germany and other 
 European countries.
 Ps- Even if we may think it makes the Nazis silly, which it does.
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not experimental, and not erotic - unless you have a kink I'd rather not 
 discuss :-) - but the first work that comes to my mind when you say banned 
 film is Titticut Follies. And there is definitely a body horror thing at 
 work there...
 
 Continuing with the 'docs', but both more experimental and dealing with 
 erotics (if not, in itself, erotic), Tongues Untied which PBS refused to 
 show.
 
 Also repressed by PBS - the amazing Seventeen by Joel Demott and some guy 
 who makes film scanners or something :-). Not 'erotic' but the depiction of 
 an inter-racial relationship was one of the elements that got it essentially 
 'banned'.
 
 Not actually 'banned', but the Fox News jeremiad against the NEA for having 
 funded a film organization that screened Thundercrack probably justifies 
 putting that on the list.
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Fomapan

2014-03-28 Thread Dicky
In Los Angeles, both Yale and Spectra will process Fomapan. I can
confirm that with certainty.

On 3/28/14, Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com wrote:
 Hi Steven,
 I haven't confirmed, but Yale in Burbank still lists it on their
 processing page:
 Adox, Fomapan, Orwo: $17.00
 http://yalefilmandvideo.com/filmprocessing8mm.php?expandable=2

 -Buck Bito - Movette
 Lawrence Buck Bito
 Movette Film Transfer
 1407 Valencia St.
 San Francisco, CA 94110
 (Valencia at 25th St.)
 415-558-8815
 Open Tuesday - Saturday
 Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4
 www.movettefilm.com

 On Fri, March 28, 2014 5:00 am, Steven wrote:
 Does anyone know of any labs that currently process Fomapan in Regular 8?

 Thanks

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 New York Based Filmmaker
 917-886-5858
 http://www.gladstonefilms.com
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Scott Dorsey
Well, the classic would be I Am Curious (Yellow) which really is more of
an experimental film than it has a reputation for being.

It's really a strange little feature, and everybody has heard of it but
precious few people have actually seen it.
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread David Sherman
Hi Scott,
James Broughton's Hermes' Bird got Canyon Cinema brought up on the floor
of the Senate by Jesse Helms in 1997 and lead to Canyon having an NEA grant
rescinded!


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Scott Stark sst...@hi-beam.net wrote:

 Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local
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 of the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or
 otherwise disparaged for risque content? (experimental preferred)

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Re: [Frameworks] Fomapan

2014-03-28 Thread Nicholas Kovats
Confirmed. They recently developed a roll of Fomapan R8 for me.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Niagara Custom Lab (Toronto)?


 On Friday, March 28, 2014 9:01 AM, Steven ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:
 Does anyone know of any labs that currently process Fomapan in Regular 8?

 Thanks

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 917-886-5858
 http://www.gladstonefilms.com
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Jason Halprin
Johnny Minotaur by Charles Henri Ford, available from Filmmaker's Coop.
-JH





On Friday, March 28, 2014 2:16 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
Triumph of the Will was banned after WW2 in most of the civilized world, maybe 
for good reasons. Still believe it may be banned in Germany and other European 
countries.
Ps- Even if we may think it makes the Nazis silly, which it does.




On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote:

Not experimental, and not erotic - unless you have a kink I'd rather not 
discuss :-) - but the first work that comes to my mind when you say banned 
film is Titticut Follies. And there is definitely a body horror thing at 
work there...

Continuing with the 'docs', but both more experimental and dealing with 
erotics (if not, in itself, erotic), Tongues Untied which PBS refused to 
show.

Also repressed by PBS - the amazing Seventeen by Joel Demott and some guy 
who makes film scanners or something :-). Not 'erotic' but the depiction of an 
inter-racial relationship was one of the elements that got it essentially 
'banned'.

Not actually 'banned', but the Fox News jeremiad against the NEA for having 
funded a film organization that screened Thundercrack probably justifies 
putting that on the list.



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[Frameworks] A TEST

2014-03-28 Thread Gene Youngblood
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Re: [Frameworks] A TEST

2014-03-28 Thread Jack
I see this! 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Mar 2014, at 8:12 am, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I sent two replies to the banned films conversation and they didn’t show up, 
 so this is a test to see if anything is getting through.
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Re: [Frameworks] A TEST

2014-03-28 Thread Bryan McManus
Maybe you were somehow banned from the banned film conversation?


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Jack j...@jacktext.net wrote:

 I see this!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Mar 2014, at 8:12 am, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote:

  I sent two replies to the banned films conversation and they didn't show
 up, so this is a test to see if anything is getting through.

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[Frameworks] michael michael

2014-03-28 Thread michael michael
http://skolagitareoktava.com/ptb/vlmf.lnil
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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

2014-03-28 Thread Peter Mudie
Aggy Read’s BOOBS A LOT was banned in the ‘60s – Canyon should still have a 
print.
Peter
(hoping not to bump into some airplane pieces when I go for a surf, Perth)

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A few years back the state of Michigan cut funds to the Ann Arbor FF, citing a 
list of 'pornographic' films the festival had programmed. (Some of the films 
had sex and some didn't.) AAFF fought it in court and won. I'm sure there's a 
list of the films somewhere...

More here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9015524
http://www.indiewire.com/festival/ann_arbor_film_festival

On Mar 28, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Scott Stark wrote:

Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local 
(Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is definitely top of 
the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or 
otherwise disparaged for risque content? (experimental preferred)

thanks,
Scott


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[Frameworks] Distant Star: Expanded Cinema evening at UnionDocs tomorrow

2014-03-28 Thread steve holmgren
www.uniondocs.org - 7:30pm / $9 suggested donation / 322 Union Avenue in
Williamsburg, Brooklyn

This evening will feature two performances by sound artists Jefre
Cantu-Ledesma and Byron Westbrook with new Super 8 and 16mm films by Paul
Clipson.

As part of the event, Clipson will introduce and speak about REEL, a new
book of unique film projectionist drawings being released by
Oakland-based LAND AND SEA. REEL unofficially surveys over a decade of 35mm
screenings at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, where Clipson works
as a projectionist, and is an eccentric cinefile's collection of technical
notes for the ever-more rare art of celluloid filmmaking, projection and
exhibition. Also screening will be a montage of changeover moments, or
cigarette burns, created by Clipson for the book's artist's edition.
For more information about the book at LAND AND SEA:
http://landandseaeditions.virb.com/20-paul-clipson
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