[Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

[Alex Balkam]

Hey Frameworks -

 Not sure if this product has been covered yet on the list. Figured I would
see if anyone out there has experience (positive or negative) with this
item:

 http://www.moviestuff.tv/
 http://www.moviestuff.tv/moviestuff_home.html

 The Moviestuff 'Retro 8' Film Scanner for Super 8 (there are also versions
for 9.5 and 16).

 It looks cool... albeit the resolution seems to be potentially too low for
some applications. I have found 720 to sometimes be a flattering resolution
for Super 8 as it can roll off the grain a bit, but I don't think it is
ideal for all applications. Personally I really want that grain. I do like
the idea of having a coffee while this unit transfers my Super 8 film on my
kitchen table in 4.5 mins though.

 What do we all think?


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Re: [Frameworks] SF Opera selling off stage projectors!!!!!!!

[Francisco Torres]

neat, i always wanted to stage the ring cycle in my backyard
about them giant slide projectors... that is how they did the sfx for
silent running and other 70s sf movies.


2014-08-20 0:02 GMT-04:00 k. a.r. a_r...@hotmail.com:

 Hey fellow listservers
 I'm passing this info on to you, with permission, to all because I think
 some people here might be interested in the
 artistic possibilities here these are giant slide projectors.
 Google them, they're pretty cool
 and most definitely very high end. Probably cost a lot new
 Anyway, here is the original copy, contact the seller at the email below.
 Thanks!

 'Hello folks, I have an interesting, possibly humorous inquiry for you all.
 The SF Opera, due to decreasing storage options, is liquidating a large
 portion of it's Pani projection equipment. The list includes projectors
 (BP-2s, BP-4s, BP-5s), effects of all types, accessories of all types,
 lenses, power supplies, cables, etc.
 If you or anyone you know or have dealt with in our biz is interested in
 picking up some still very useable, old-school projection equipment at VERY
 LOW prices, please forward them my email so we can work something out.
 We also have a nice Strand 550 console, SN100 node, and two SN102 nodes
 that are gathering dust but still operable. Stop laughing, I'm serious.
 Might be good for a small house or school. I don't know, seems a shame to
 just dispose of it. Who knows.
 Russell Adamson
 Lighting Systems Administrator
 SF Opera
 radam...@sfopera.com  '








 Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
 Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
 Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
 The Mission, San Francisco, CA

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Re: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

[Jean-Louis Seguin]

The Small Gauge Film Forum on the filmshooting.com website has many comments 
from users and discussion about the Retro-8 machine. 
Check it out.

Jean-Louis

Sent from my iPod

 On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Alex Balkam blueswingingd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey Frameworks - 
 
  Not sure if this product has been covered yet on the list. Figured I would 
 see if anyone out there has experience (positive or negative) with this item: 
 
  http://www.moviestuff.tv/
  http://www.moviestuff.tv/moviestuff_home.html
 
  The Moviestuff 'Retro 8' Film Scanner for Super 8 (there are also versions 
 for 9.5 and 16). 
  
  It looks cool... albeit the resolution seems to be potentially too low for 
 some applications. I have found 720 to sometimes be a flattering resolution 
 for Super 8 as it can roll off the grain a bit, but I don't think it is ideal 
 for all applications. Personally I really want that grain. I do like the idea 
 of having a coffee while this unit transfers my Super 8 film on my kitchen 
 table in 4.5 mins though. 
 
  What do we all think?
 
 
  Alex Balkam
  looker at pictures
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[Frameworks] Millennium Members Meeting rescheduled to Thursday 8/28

[Vance Klass]

The special Members Meeting of Millennium Film Workshop that was scheduled for 
tonight (Weds 8/20) has been RESCHEDULED to THURSDAY AUGUST 28, 2014, 7:00pm at 
Brooklyn Fire Proof, 119 Ingraham Street, Brooklyn, NY, at 7:00 pm.   The 
business of the meeting will be to vote on a recommendation by the Board of 
Directors that the Millennium Archive be sold to the Museum of Modern Art.  
Approval of this sale is critical to Millennium's future.

The meeting has been rescheduled to allow time for voting members who cannot be 
physically present at the meeting to submit a proxy ballot by email.  This is 
provided in NY state law and should assure a quorum of our voting members (one 
half plus one) to vote on this important question.  At present 46 voting 
members have renewed their membership so that they are eligible to vote. 
Information on the email proxy vote will be sent in a few days to all recent 
and currently eligible voting members.  For information on how to become a 
voting member, please go to www.millenniumfilm.org

The proceeds from the sale of the Millennium Archive to MoMA will be used for 
financial reorganization of Millennium and investment to improve our services 
to non-commercial filmmakers (equipment/facility access, workshops, screenings, 
film journal). The Millennium Archive documents nearly 50 years of artists' 
cinema activity centered in New York City.  It includes photography, audio 
recordings and transcripts of filmmaker QA's; correspondence, screening and 
exhibit programs; and other items gathered from artists' cinema workshops and 
events that are both numerous in quantity and unique.  MoMA intends to 
catalogue and digitize the Archive for public access through the internet.  It 
plans as well an exhibition and screenings derived from the Archive. 
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Re: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

[ben.weinstein]

Anyone have one of these things in the NYC area?-Original Message-
From: Alex Balkam 
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 9:57 AM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

Hey Frameworks -Not sure if this product has been covered yet on the list. Figured I would see if anyone out there has experience (positive or negative) with this item:http://www.moviestuff.tv/
http://www.moviestuff.tv/moviestuff_home.htmlThe Moviestuff 'Retro 8' Film Scanner for Super 8 (there are also versions for 9.5 and 16).
It looks cool... albeit the resolution seems to be potentially too low for some applications. I have found 720 to sometimes be a flattering resolution for Super 8 as it can roll off the grain a bit, but I don't think it is ideal for all applications. Personally I really want that grain. I do like the idea of having a coffee while this unit transfers my Super 8 film on my kitchen table in 4.5 mins though.
What do we all think?Alex Balkamlooker at pictures

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[Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[ben.weinstein]

Hey ive been shooting a lot film with my canon super 8 camera and it stopped working recently and i lost a bunch of good footage because of it. It appears to run fine but when I put film in, it just rips the sprocket holes and doesnt advance the film at all. The wheel inside turns fine and the tooth that grabs the sprockethole seems to move fine when theres no film inside. Anyway to get to the point i need to fix this thing or borrow someones camera before this weekend cause i need to get this film out. Anyone in the NYC area got anything thatll help? Thanks
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Re: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

[ben.weinstein]

Actually I take that back; does anyone have one of these in america at all?-Original Message-
From: ben.weinst...@mindspring.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 5:46 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

Anyone have one of these things in the NYC area?-Original Message-
From: Alex Balkam 
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 9:57 AM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

Hey Frameworks -Not sure if this product has been covered yet on the list. Figured I would see if anyone out there has experience (positive or negative) with this item:http://www.moviestuff.tv/
http://www.moviestuff.tv/moviestuff_home.htmlThe Moviestuff 'Retro 8' Film Scanner for Super 8 (there are also versions for 9.5 and 16).
It looks cool... albeit the resolution seems to be potentially too low for some applications. I have found 720 to sometimes be a flattering resolution for Super 8 as it can roll off the grain a bit, but I don't think it is ideal for all applications. Personally I really want that grain. I do like the idea of having a coffee while this unit transfers my Super 8 film on my kitchen table in 4.5 mins though.
What do we all think?Alex Balkamlooker at pictures


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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[Steve Polta]

To me this sounds like a problem with the individual film cartridge you are
using (like it is jammed somehow and the film can't move) and not the
camera. Have you tried using another cartridge?


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:55 PM, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Hey ive been shooting a lot film with my canon super 8 camera and it
 stopped working recently and i lost a bunch of good footage because of it.
 It appears to run fine but when I put film in, it just rips the sprocket
 holes and doesnt advance the film at all.  The wheel inside turns fine and
 the tooth that grabs the sprockethole seems to move fine when theres no
 film inside.  Anyway to get to the point i need to fix this thing or borrow
 someones camera before this weekend cause i need to get this film out.
 Anyone in the NYC area got anything thatll help?  Thanks

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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[Ryder White]

I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened
to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems
like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[Buck Bito - Movette]

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D
was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated
that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she
blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that
cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts
about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was
to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it.
Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky
inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment.
It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a
refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize...
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened
 to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

[Nicholas Kovats]

Is that actually a serious question? Roger cannot keep up with demand. He
and the owners hangout on the Filmshooting forum. Very detailed threads.

On Wednesday, August 20, 2014, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Actually I take that back; does anyone have one of these in america at all?

 -Original Message-
 From: ben.weinst...@mindspring.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ben.weinst...@mindspring.com');
 Sent: Aug 20, 2014 5:46 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

 Anyone have one of these things in the NYC area?

 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Balkam
 Sent: Aug 20, 2014 9:57 AM
 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com');
 Subject: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner

 Hey Frameworks -

  Not sure if this product has been covered yet on the list. Figured I
 would see if anyone out there has experience (positive or negative) with
 this item:

  http://www.moviestuff.tv/
  http://www.moviestuff.tv/moviestuff_home.html

  The Moviestuff 'Retro 8' Film Scanner for Super 8 (there are also
 versions for 9.5 and 16).

  It looks cool... albeit the resolution seems to be potentially too low
 for some applications. I have found 720 to sometimes be a flattering
 resolution for Super 8 as it can roll off the grain a bit, but I don't
 think it is ideal for all applications. Personally I really want that
 grain. I do like the idea of having a coffee while this unit transfers my
 Super 8 film on my kitchen table in 4.5 mins though.

  What do we all think?


  Alex Balkam
  looker at pictures


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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[ben.weinstein]

I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing


-Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D
was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated
that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she
blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that
cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts
about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was
to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it.
Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky
inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment.
It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a
refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize...
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened
 to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[ben.weinstein]

I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing


-Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D
was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated
that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she
blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that
cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts
about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was
to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it.
Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky
inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment.
It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a
refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize...
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened
 to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[Buck Bito - Movette]

Ben,
You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames.
Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label
side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a
few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance -
basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being
pulled by the claw.
It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is
seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating
the test.
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito


On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:
 I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing


 -Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing
 happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the
 same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[ben.weinstein]

woa thanks for the help.  the cartridges were jammed and i got 1 to work.  The 
other 2 are boned i guess.  Thanks yall


-Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 8:27 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

Ben,
You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames.
Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label
side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a
few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance -
basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being
pulled by the claw.
It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is
seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating
the test.
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito


On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:
 I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing


 -Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing
 happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the
 same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


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 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

[Ekrem Serdar]

Ben, just out of curiosity, were these Kodak cartridges?


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:

 woa thanks for the help.  the cartridges were jammed and i got 1 to work.
 The other 2 are boned i guess.  Thanks yall


 -Original Message-
 From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
 Sent: Aug 20, 2014 8:27 PM
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!
 
 Ben,
 You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames.
 Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label
 side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a
 few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance -
 basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being
 pulled by the claw.
 It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is
 seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating
 the test.
 -Good luck!
 ---Buck Bito
 
 
 On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:
  I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing
 
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
 Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!
 
 As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip
 -Good luck!
 ---Buck Bito
 
 Lawrence Buck Bito
 Movette Film Transfer
 1407 Valencia St.
 San Francisco, CA 94110
 415-558-8815
 Open Tuesday - Saturday
 www.movettefilm.com
 
 
 On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
  I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing
  happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the
  same case...it seems
  like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com
 wrote:
 
  Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
  --scott
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