Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread Nicky Hamlyn
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Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread Nicky Hamlyn
I suspect Arnulf Rainer is excluded because it's abstract, my assumption being based on Gidal's critique of Sharits., ie, the viewer can fantasise 'into' blank colour frames just as much as they can falsely identify with a character in a movie. Some of Gidal's own films, eg Room Film 1973, use

Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread Deke Dusinberre
Hello John (and Frameworkers), On 23 Feb 2016, at 12:00, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com wrote: > -how it is that in 1976 Peter Gidal can include Annette Michelson's June 1971 > Artforum piece "Towards Snow" in his Structural Film Anthology when in the > September 1971 issue of Artforum

Re: [Frameworks] Black Leader

2016-02-23 Thread Lyndsay Bloom
Thanks Jeff, Alain, and Scott! Colorlab and ORWO are out of acetate black emulsion leader, but thankfully I found enough on ebay. ORWO said they're working on an order, but it won't be ready by springtime. On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote: > Try Colorlab.

Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread vanessa renwick
I was thinking that there also is some over the top Fassbinder loopityloop shot, rotating around Fassbinder, when he starred in Wolf Gremm's Kamikaze 89. Vanessa Renwick Oregon Department of Kick Ass On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Hardin, Ted wrote:

Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Adam Sekuler
Apichatpong has one in his National Anthem short. Also Godard's Sympathy For The Devil. On Feb 17, 2016 5:06 PM, "Gene Youngblood" wrote: > Friends, > I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or > Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people

Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread salise.hug...@gmail.com
Fassbender's Whity (1971). - Reply message - From: "Hardin, Ted" To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:27 pm Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on

Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
Folks, Gene asked for 360° _tracking_ shots, not pans. Is there an old DePalma film that DOESN'T have one? I can't recall if any of the 'bullet time' slo-mo shots in the Matrix films, or subsequent action films that aped that technique, went all the way around But I'm guessing there are

Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
> My notion of "including Ono and Ackerman [sic]" is, you're right, wrongheaded. Sorry if the double-negative was unclear, but I was saying including those makers is NOT wrongheaded at all. The gag (I was going for a bot o' irony) was that your thinking that doing so 'went against the grain'

Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Hardin, Ted
Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at the Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year. Here’s a list of films that were displayed: “Another room in Fassbinder – JETZT is dedicated to one of Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking shot.

Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread vanessa renwick
Fassbinder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZbGOrvi_t0 I think there were some other Fassbinder films with more circling shots, will try and remember them. Vanessa Renwick Oregon Department of Kick Ass On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Gene Youngblood

Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Gene Youngblood
Thanks, Fred. Speaking of Sonbert, I ran across a VOD service that has most of his films, but I forgot the name of the company. Andy Ditzler suggested Jon Gartenberg might have something to do with it, and indeed I vaguely recall his name on the site. I emailed Jon and am awaiting a reply. It

Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Fred Camper
A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage to the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, "Amphetamine." Fred Camper Chicago ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com

[Frameworks] INCITE #∞: Forever now in print

2016-02-23 Thread Brett Kashmere
Dear Frameworkers, The new, sixth issue of *INCITE: Journal of Experimental Media *is now in print and ready-to-ship. Themed "Forever," the issue features contributions by nearly three dozen movie artists and media archivists spanning the written word, the moving image, comics, found photography,

Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread John Muse
Thanks so much for this, Mark. You've given us so much delicious food for thought! On Feb 23, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Mark Webber wrote: > The Visible Press is about to publish a collection of writings by Peter Gidal > titled “Flare Out: Aesthetics 1966–2016”, which I have

Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread John Muse
Dave, thanks for these speculations, which are helpful and not even wrongheaded. 1. I wholly except and will use your revision: not "structuralist/materialist films by women" but "films by women relevant to the debates around structuralists and structuralist/materialist cinema." 2. Yes, Gidal

Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
I've been thinking, about the original query from John Muse in light of the follow-up query about Michelson, doing some wild-ass speculating. Mark's post (he certainly knows WAY more about this than I do) suggests my imaginings are at least not grossly inconsistent with known facts. And my

Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
On Feb 23, 2016, at 4:28 AM, Mark Webber > wrote: The Visible Press is about to publish a collection of writings by Peter Gidal titled “Flare Out: Aesthetics 1966–2016”, which I have also edited. Please see below for further information.

Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread maría palacios cruz
Hi John, I was the one asking the one question at the event with Peter Gidal at the Southbank. One of my colleagues at LUX was meant to record the conversation but something went wrong and for some reason the recording is empty, so we were actually talking about it this very same morning and

Re: [Frameworks] Annette Michelson and Peter Gidal

2016-02-23 Thread Mark Webber
The Visible Press is about to publish a collection of writings by Peter Gidal titled “Flare Out: Aesthetics 1966–2016”, which I have also edited. Please see below for further information. The book does include Gidal’s letter to Artforum, alongside many other texts from the past 50 years. The