Re: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

2017-03-25 Thread Colinet André 
footage numbering ???!!!



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Subject: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

Hi Esperanza,

I’ve worked with film and I’m a translator. It’s “pietaje”, as Pablo said. In 
regards to the machine, I’ve heard a couple of times the word “pietadora”, but 
I’m not sure if people who works at film labs use that word.

Cheers,
Blanca

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  El 25/3/2017, a las 13:00, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com escribió:

  De: Esperanza Collado 

  Asunto: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

  Fecha: 25 de marzo de 2017, 11:30:57 CET

  Para: Experimental Film Discussion List 




  Hi FrameWorkers, 

  Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms please? 
Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may know what I'm 
referring to.
   
  I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so lost, 
even an English translation would do for a start.


  These are the terms:


  • Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers written 
with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at the same 
time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation is done with a 
special machine called «pieteuse»)  —


  • Piéteuse (the machine) — 



  Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.


  Cheers,


  Esperanza.





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Re: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

2017-03-25 Thread Esperanza Collado 
I know! But, honestly, I'm not sure if they have the same meaning. foot is
pied in French though. Both words seem too similar (piétage = footage).

2017-03-25 18:07 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres :

> footage
>
> 2017-03-25 8:38 GMT-04:00 _blank :
>
>> Hi Esperanza,
>>
>> I’ve worked with film and I’m a translator. It’s “pietaje”, as Pablo
>> said. In regards to the machine, I’ve heard a couple of times the word
>> “pietadora”, but I’m not sure if people who works at film labs use that
>> word.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blanca
>>
>> (Ø)
>> _
>> _blank
>> www.null66913.net
>> @null66913
>>
>> El 25/3/2017, a las 13:00, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com
>> escribió:
>>
>> *De: *Esperanza Collado 
>> *Asunto: **[Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»*
>> *Fecha: *25 de marzo de 2017, 11:30:57 CET
>> *Para: *Experimental Film Discussion List > >
>>
>>
>> Hi FrameWorkers,
>>
>> Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms
>> please? Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may
>> know what I'm referring to.
>>
>> I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so
>> lost, even an English translation would do for a start.
>>
>> These are the terms:
>>
>> • Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers
>> written with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at
>> the same time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation is
>> done with a special machine called «pieteuse»)  —
>>
>> • Piéteuse (the machine) —
>>
>> Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esperanza.
>>
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

2017-03-25 Thread Francisco Torres 
footage

2017-03-25 8:38 GMT-04:00 _blank :

> Hi Esperanza,
>
> I’ve worked with film and I’m a translator. It’s “pietaje”, as Pablo said.
> In regards to the machine, I’ve heard a couple of times the word
> “pietadora”, but I’m not sure if people who works at film labs use that
> word.
>
> Cheers,
> Blanca
>
> (Ø)
> _
> _blank
> www.null66913.net
> @null66913
>
> El 25/3/2017, a las 13:00, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com
> escribió:
>
> *De: *Esperanza Collado 
> *Asunto: **[Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»*
> *Fecha: *25 de marzo de 2017, 11:30:57 CET
> *Para: *Experimental Film Discussion List 
>
>
> Hi FrameWorkers,
>
> Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms
> please? Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may
> know what I'm referring to.
>
> I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so
> lost, even an English translation would do for a start.
>
> These are the terms:
>
> • Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers
> written with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at
> the same time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation is
> done with a special machine called «pieteuse»)  —
>
> • Piéteuse (the machine) —
>
> Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esperanza.
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

2017-03-25 Thread Esperanza Collado 
That's exactly what the author of the text told me, that the numbers were
white. That is it, Christopher.

Thank you, Blanca. It may be "pietadora" entonces. That's insane how close
the word (the two words!) was, but so unfamiliar I would have never
guessed. Still waiting to get confirmation from other people
off-frameworks, although I'm sure you're completely right.

Enjoy the weekend!

2017-03-25 13:46 GMT+01:00 Christopher Ball :

> The machine I used had a tape, like a typewriter tape, which had the white
> "ink" that was used to stamp the numbers on the soundtrack and the
> workprint.  You would zero the counter at your sync mark, run the picture,
> then load the sound, zreo the counter at the sync mark and run the
> soundtrack.  The numbers printed out every 12 frames and were white.
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Esperanza Collado <
> esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you so much everyone! Also, very helpful off-list messages ;)
>>
>> So, "piétage" seems to be "pietaje" in Spanish (never heard the word
>> before), perhaps (just) "footage" in English(?).
>>
>> Still not sure about the machine, "piéteuse". I forgot to say before that
>> this machine seems to have an ink pad to print numbers on frames. I think
>> this is not the same as a Key Code printer. As Christopher said, it differs
>> from numbers that come from factory. The "piétage" seems to be done during
>> editing with this machine called "pieteuse".
>>
>> Christopher, is this what you used before? Don't remember its name?
>> Anyone else?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Christopher Ball :
>>
>>> I operated one of these machines for a short while
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Christopher Ball 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You are referring to edge numbering for editing?  We used to call it
 edge code or edge numbering.  The machine as far as I can remember was just
 an edge numbering machine.  It differs from keycoding/key codes, (which are
 the numbers that kodak burns right into the film), as edge coding or edge
 numbering is done after you've synchronized your workprint with your
 soundtrack and then stamp these edge numbers on to keep your sound and
 picture in sync during ediitng.

 On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Esperanza Collado <
 esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi FrameWorkers,
>
> Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms
> please? Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may
> know what I'm referring to.
>
> I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so
> lost, even an English translation would do for a start.
>
> These are the terms:
>
> • Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers
> written with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at
> the same time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation 
> is
> done with a special machine called «pieteuse»)  —
>
> • Piéteuse (the machine) —
>
>
> Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Esperanza.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

2017-03-25 Thread Christopher Ball 
The machine I used had a tape, like a typewriter tape, which had the white
"ink" that was used to stamp the numbers on the soundtrack and the
workprint.  You would zero the counter at your sync mark, run the picture,
then load the sound, zreo the counter at the sync mark and run the
soundtrack.  The numbers printed out every 12 frames and were white.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Esperanza Collado <
esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you so much everyone! Also, very helpful off-list messages ;)
>
> So, "piétage" seems to be "pietaje" in Spanish (never heard the word
> before), perhaps (just) "footage" in English(?).
>
> Still not sure about the machine, "piéteuse". I forgot to say before that
> this machine seems to have an ink pad to print numbers on frames. I think
> this is not the same as a Key Code printer. As Christopher said, it differs
> from numbers that come from factory. The "piétage" seems to be done during
> editing with this machine called "pieteuse".
>
> Christopher, is this what you used before? Don't remember its name? Anyone
> else?
>
>
>
> 2017-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Christopher Ball :
>
>> I operated one of these machines for a short while
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Christopher Ball 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You are referring to edge numbering for editing?  We used to call it
>>> edge code or edge numbering.  The machine as far as I can remember was just
>>> an edge numbering machine.  It differs from keycoding/key codes, (which are
>>> the numbers that kodak burns right into the film), as edge coding or edge
>>> numbering is done after you've synchronized your workprint with your
>>> soundtrack and then stamp these edge numbers on to keep your sound and
>>> picture in sync during ediitng.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Esperanza Collado <
>>> esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi FrameWorkers,

 Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms
 please? Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may
 know what I'm referring to.

 I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so
 lost, even an English translation would do for a start.

 These are the terms:

 • Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers
 written with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at
 the same time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation is
 done with a special machine called «pieteuse»)  —

 • Piéteuse (the machine) —


 Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.


 Cheers,


 Esperanza.






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2017-03-25 Thread _blank 
Hi Esperanza,

I’ve worked with film and I’m a translator. It’s “pietaje”, as Pablo said. In 
regards to the machine, I’ve heard a couple of times the word “pietadora”, but 
I’m not sure if people who works at film labs use that word.

Cheers,
Blanca

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> El 25/3/2017, a las 13:00, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com escribió:
> 
> De: Esperanza Collado  >
> Asunto: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»
> Fecha: 25 de marzo de 2017, 11:30:57 CET
> Para: Experimental Film Discussion List  >
> 
> 
> Hi FrameWorkers,
> 
> Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms please? 
> Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may know what 
> I'm referring to.
>  
> I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so lost, 
> even an English translation would do for a start.
> 
> These are the terms:
> 
> • Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers written 
> with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at the same 
> time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation is done with 
> a special machine called «pieteuse»)  —
> 
> • Piéteuse (the machine) — 
> 
> Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esperanza.

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Re: [Frameworks] mental problems

2017-03-25 Thread John McAndrew 
I highly recommend the freak out scene/s in the 1978 film Death Drug - it's
a clusterfuck of slowed down video, overlaid synth effects (both visual and
audio), cheesy hallucinations and completely over the top acting from Miami
Vice's Philip Michael Thomas - has to be seen to be believed! The full film
is on YouTube.

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Re: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

2017-03-25 Thread Pablo Marin 
http://glosarios.servidor-alicante.com/lenguaje-cine/pietaje   ?    

 

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:31 AM, Esperanza Collado 
 wrote:
 

 Hi FrameWorkers,
Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms please? 
Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may know what I'm 
referring to.
 
I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so lost, 
even an English translation would do for a start.

These are the terms:

• Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers written 
with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at the same 
time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation is done with a 
special machine called «pieteuse»)  —

• Piéteuse (the machine) — 

Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.
Cheers,
Esperanza.




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Re: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

2017-03-25 Thread Christopher Ball 
I operated one of these machines for a short while

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Christopher Ball 
wrote:

> You are referring to edge numbering for editing?  We used to call it edge
> code or edge numbering.  The machine as far as I can remember was just an
> edge numbering machine.  It differs from keycoding/key codes, (which are
> the numbers that kodak burns right into the film), as edge coding or edge
> numbering is done after you've synchronized your workprint with your
> soundtrack and then stamp these edge numbers on to keep your sound and
> picture in sync during ediitng.
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Esperanza Collado <
> esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi FrameWorkers,
>>
>> Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms
>> please? Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may
>> know what I'm referring to.
>>
>> I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so
>> lost, even an English translation would do for a start.
>>
>> These are the terms:
>>
>> • Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers
>> written with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at
>> the same time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation is
>> done with a special machine called «pieteuse»)  —
>>
>> • Piéteuse (the machine) —
>>
>>
>> Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Esperanza.
>>
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Translation of «Piétage» and «Piéteuse»

2017-03-25 Thread Christopher Ball 
You are referring to edge numbering for editing?  We used to call it edge
code or edge numbering.  The machine as far as I can remember was just an
edge numbering machine.  It differs from keycoding/key codes, (which are
the numbers that kodak burns right into the film), as edge coding or edge
numbering is done after you've synchronized your workprint with your
soundtrack and then stamp these edge numbers on to keep your sound and
picture in sync during ediitng.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Esperanza Collado <
esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi FrameWorkers,
>
> Could any of you help me with the translation of these French terms
> please? Even if you don't know French, by the description some of you may
> know what I'm referring to.
>
> I actually need to translate these two terms into Spanish, but I am so
> lost, even an English translation would do for a start.
>
> These are the terms:
>
> • Piétage («piétage de la pellicule») — (it refers to white numbers
> written with a «piéteuse» machine on the image and on the sound strips at
> the same time, in order to get them synchronized I guess. This operation is
> done with a special machine called «pieteuse»)  —
>
> • Piéteuse (the machine) —
>
>
> Fingers crossed there's someone out there who knows these words.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Esperanza.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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