Re: [Frameworks] Looking for Steenbeck 6000 16/35 timing belts

[Al Matthews]

Like.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 12:20 George, Sherman  wrote:

> SDP/SI.com carries metric belts. Page 2-163 of their metric catalog
> 516-328.3300
> They don’t list a 63 tooth but have 60 or 65 tooth.
> Hope that helps
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> > Greetings All
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> > I'm trying to find a source for Steenbeck timing belts.  I've tried the
> major manufacturers and they seem to be an odd spec.
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> > 5mm pitch
> > 9mm width
> > Trapezoidal tooth profile
> > 53, 63, 83 & 98 teeth.
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Re: [Frameworks] jargon

[Al Matthews]

You're welcome.

I left in 2006. Evidently, later, an executive rolled out a restyled Ticker
product: the Flipper.

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/so-long-flipper-the-ticker-returns-to-cnn/168545?red=tn

I googled across TVNewser and they use ticker as the name of their
small-events blog.

Al

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote:

 Thanks, Al.

 On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com wrote:

 ticker, at least at cnn

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Friends,
 For those whose day job is TV, can you tell me if there’s industry jargon
 for the banner that crawls across the bottom of the screen of news
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Re: [Frameworks] jargon

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ticker, at least at cnn

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Re: [Frameworks] Etiquette

[Al Matthews]

+1

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Bill Seery b...@mercermedia.com wrote:

 Fight all you want, but please trim your posts down to the essential
 parts. Repeated quoting of entire digests and/or threads makes the list
 unreadable, especially for those of us receiving it in digest form.

 Best

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Re: [Frameworks] Java

[Al Matthews]

Also try System Preferences - Java, which may be populated depending on
the version.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gene, do you need to install (uninstall) the JDK or the JRE? Write me
 off-list if you like.

 Al

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Friends,
 We want to uninstall the version of Java that’s on our Mac Pro/Yosemite
 but it doesn’t show up on the “all programs” list and we don’t know how to
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Re: [Frameworks] Deep Listening Experimental Film--bringing Deep Listening to the Office!

[Al Matthews]

Yes, unironic. Techno-utopian.

Meanwhile, the bullet or the bit, sir.
On Oct 15, 2014 11:07 PM, Marc Couroux cour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whoa! Amazing! And without the slightest bit of irony to boot!

 The neo-avant-garde, otherwise known as the
 military-industrial-entertainment complex, has got your number.

 Synchronize predatory algorithms!



 On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 ''Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness
 and mindfulness initiatives...''
 Guess so. Oh well.




 2014-10-15 15:07 GMT-04:00 Michele Smith bogduec...@hotmail.com:

 You might try Western Front in Vancouver, Canada. They have hosted deep
 listening workshops in the past. http://front.bc.ca/new-music/
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Angela Holm angelah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Frameworkers,

 Does anyone have a suggestion of where to show a short film (10 mins)
 that is an experimental documentary about a Deep Listening group, *Deep
 Listening Incorporated*, whose goal is to bring Pauline Oliveros' Deep
 Listening Practice into the corporate workplace?

 Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness
 and mindfulness initiatives and is a great way to bring a higher
 consciousness to the 9 to 5 grind.

 Festivals or venues that have a meditation or mindfulness focus, or an
 interest in Pauline Oliveros and experimental music?

 The video is all created from recorded video conferencing meetings with
 Pauline and the group of 5 women who all work in the corporate field (3 of
 which work at Google).

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Re: [Frameworks] Deep Listening Experimental Film--bringing Deep Listening to the Office!

[Al Matthews]

Not to string this out at the expense of Frameworks attention, but I think
I was arguing that 'the system' is made by-of individual engineers and 'the
outcome' might be improved -- to the extent that it can be controlled at
this early point -- by their deep listening. At the very least we'll get
better auditory cues on Android phones eh.

But I think we're in pretty close agreement.


On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 And I want to clarify that I do not want my opinions to be seen as an
 attack on P Oliveros, to me her work stands as good as it always has been,
 it is just that things like this speak tons about how the arts work today.

 2014-10-16 10:44 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com:

 Now not kidding, Deep listening for Corporations seminars is another
 example of how, no matter how radical ideas can be, they can end up being
 recuperated by The System and we may end up working for The Man. But who am
 I to talk, I used to edit commercials for a living... Oh well.

 2014-10-16 10:36 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com:

 and i was just kidding, mis-quoting apocalypse now ;)

 2014-10-16 10:30 GMT-04:00 Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com:

  Well, you see, Marc, in this world of late capitalism, things get
 confused out there.

 I'm not arguing really, I just felt I should disagree.

 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Francisco Torres 
 fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, you see, Marc, in this world of late capitalism, things get
 confused out there. Power, ideals, the old morality, and practical 
 economic
 necessity. But out there with these natives, it must be a temptation to be
 God. Because there's a conflict in every human heart, between the rational
 and irrational, between good and evil. And good does not always triumph.
 Sometimes, the dark side overcomes what Lincoln called the better angels 
 of
 our nature.

 2014-10-16 10:14 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com:

 ''Synchronize predatory algorithms!'
 ''For great justice, launch Zig fighters!''


 2014-10-16 4:22 GMT-04:00 Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com:

 Yes, unironic. Techno-utopian.

 Meanwhile, the bullet or the bit, sir.
 On Oct 15, 2014 11:07 PM, Marc Couroux cour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whoa! Amazing! And without the slightest bit of irony to boot!

 The neo-avant-garde, otherwise known as the
 military-industrial-entertainment complex, has got your number.

 Synchronize predatory algorithms!



 On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Francisco Torres 
 fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

 ''Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate
 wellness and mindfulness initiatives...''
 Guess so. Oh well.




 2014-10-15 15:07 GMT-04:00 Michele Smith bogduec...@hotmail.com:

 You might try Western Front in Vancouver, Canada. They have
 hosted deep listening workshops in the past.
 http://front.bc.ca/new-music/
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Angela Holm angelah...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Frameworkers,

 Does anyone have a suggestion of where to show a short film (10
 mins) that is an experimental documentary about a Deep Listening 
 group, *Deep
 Listening Incorporated*, whose goal is to bring Pauline
 Oliveros' Deep Listening Practice into the corporate workplace?

 Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate
 wellness and mindfulness initiatives and is a great way to bring a 
 higher
 consciousness to the 9 to 5 grind.

 Festivals or venues that have a meditation or mindfulness focus,
 or an interest in Pauline Oliveros and experimental music?

 The video is all created from recorded video conferencing
 meetings with Pauline and the group of 5 women who all work in the
 corporate field (3 of which work at Google).

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Re: [Frameworks] Deep Listening Experimental Film--bringing Deep Listening to the Office!

[Al Matthews]

Pauline also has a friendly relationship with Railroad Earth in Atlanta,
and by extension, Eyedrum. I can put you in touch with our film curator if
you like.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 ''Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness
 and mindfulness initiatives...''
 Guess so. Oh well.




 2014-10-15 15:07 GMT-04:00 Michele Smith bogduec...@hotmail.com:

 You might try Western Front in Vancouver, Canada. They have hosted deep
 listening workshops in the past. http://front.bc.ca/new-music/
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Angela Holm angelah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Frameworkers,

 Does anyone have a suggestion of where to show a short film (10 mins)
 that is an experimental documentary about a Deep Listening group, *Deep
 Listening Incorporated*, whose goal is to bring Pauline Oliveros' Deep
 Listening Practice into the corporate workplace?

 Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness
 and mindfulness initiatives and is a great way to bring a higher
 consciousness to the 9 to 5 grind.

 Festivals or venues that have a meditation or mindfulness focus, or an
 interest in Pauline Oliveros and experimental music?

 The video is all created from recorded video conferencing meetings with
 Pauline and the group of 5 women who all work in the corporate field (3 of
 which work at Google).

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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps

[Al Matthews]

Hello,

I've been nursing a computational documentary app for ages based around
footage in SE Louisiana 2001-07. Strictly prototype and mostly academic.
Write off list if you want a precis. I have literature and opinions.

Also, check out pockets of development around ZKM-Karlsruhe, USC,
UC-Santa-Cruz (Mateas), V2-Rotterdam, gatech (Reidl), and OpenEndedGroup,
for example. But what you want is specifically small-screen?

Al

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Mariya Nikiforova mar...@radonlake.com
wrote:

 Paul Turano's Wander Wonder Wilderness http://www.wanderurbanwilds.com/
 project, which is currently raising funds on Kickstarter

 On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:15 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote:

 There's a terrible one for Android called AR Effect.

 Nicky.



  -Original Message-
 From: Shane Eason shaneea...@yahoo.ca
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22
 Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps

  H-e-l-l-o...E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e...

  I’m conducting some preliminary research on Experimental and
 Documentary apps (individual and collective) for Android, iOS, and other
 platforms such as PS4 (Orbis OS),
 Xbox One (Windows 8 Partition; upgrade to Windows 10 upcoming) and Linux.
 I know of a few, but does anyone have additional info on other apps? Or,
 whom may have one
 in development? Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps
 (mobile, live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content.

  I’m far more savvy with Apple and iOS, but here’s what I’ve collected
 so far, aside from the regular corporate stuff like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix,
 et cetera, et cetera...

  Documentary Film/Media/Sound: Fandor, The Doc Blog, PBS POV, NFB,
 Docurama, Sundance Now, Documentary.net, CodeBarre.tv
 Experimental Film/Media/Sound: Michael Betancourt, ATA, Energy Flow,
 Miranda July

  Muy apreciado,

  -Shane
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 Shane Christian Eason, MFA
 Asst. Prof. of Exp.  Doc. Film | Multimedia Production Coordinator | MFA
 MTE Director
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Re: [Frameworks] Glitch video artists

[Al Matthews]

That's a nice variety of approaches, on ungun for example.

I suspect most of the glitch people are by now self-consciously
referential. Kim Asendorf has been curating a lot of this recently (in .gif
format, naturally enough). c.f. http://fa-g.org/ongoing .

Some of the major or else visible and feted players are collected there,
including Yoshihide Sodeoka and Rosa Menkman. See also
http://we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/2013/07/glitch-momentums.php .

There tends to be a conscious focus on image consumption, rather than film
per se.

SAIC (Jon Cates e.g.) is also working in this vein.

I want to add that, in my own partially vetted opinion, a lot of this work
comes out of music technology research. Glitch in 1994 and earlier is for
me a product of lots of people, of whom Markus Popp is well known and
visited CalArts if I recall correctly, possibly as early as 1997. To my
far-secondhand knowledge it is Yasunao Tone who invented the technique of
placing perforated tape on an optical disc.

Kim Cascone too. The tradition is an old one and if you trace it via
microsound it goes back via Roads and Truax at least as far as  Xenakis.
Basinski is also useful in this regard, i.e. attention to the
disintegrations of the magnetic.

Cheers, and thanks for your time.

Al

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Lady Snowblood 
snowbloods.para...@gmail.com wrote:

 um, this is kindof awkward ~

 I make  screen glitch video. I love talking about datamoshing and other
 codec alteration processes work; it is unlike any analog film process,
 though analogies abound. I used to do 16mm hand-altered film, that’s part
 of why I’m on this list, it’s the tradition I came out of.

 I’m also a theory person, so the “why glitch” conversation is very
 important for me, though I can’t claim to speak for anyone or glitch as a
 whole.

 Work samples are at my website, http://drawclose.com.

 Jessica



 On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:13 PM, robert harris lagonab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Evan Meaney is deeply involved with the digital glitch.  Smart guy, good
 artist, fine human being.  Has not worked, as far as I know, with hollywood
 western footage.
 Some of Meaney's work uses his own home (VHS) movies, making it
 self-referential and medium-referential.
 He teaches in South Carolina, if you want to find him.


 On Sep 22, 2014, at 3:52 PM, lana wrote:

 Hi all,
 I have been trying to remember the name of a collaborative duo that made
 some videos I saw a few years ago.  One of the long works was a video made
 from a Hollywood western.  They used a technique that recorded digital
 glitches and artifacting that left streaks and blocks of color.  Ring any
 bells?

 Any other suggestions of folks working with Digital Cinema/Video Art in a
 self-referential way, (the self being Digital Cinema), would be appreciated
 as well.

 Thanks,
 Lana

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Re: [Frameworks] Glitch video artists

[Al Matthews]

It's a fur piece



but yes, no doubt some of us did see the piece in question, last night.
Here's to many an answer print. Kind regards in turn, Al

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote:

 Turns out that Lossless #3, the piece in question, was included in the
 sold-out screening last night at REDCAT.
 Hope some of you made it.

 Best regards,

 Adam


 On 9/22/14 12:58 PM, direc...@lift.on.ca direc...@lift.on.ca wrote:

  Sounds like Rebecca Baron and Douglas Goodwin's Lossless
  series.
 http://www.vdb.org/titles/lossless-3

 best
 Chris

  Hi all, I have
  been trying to remember the name of a collaborative duo
  that made some
  videos I saw a few years ago.  One of the long works was a
  video made from a
  Hollywood western.  They used a technique that recorded
  digital glitches and
  artifacting that left streaks and blocks of color.
  Ring any bells?
 
  Any
  other suggestions of folks working with Digital Cinema/Video Art in a
 
  self-referential way, (the self being Digital Cinema), would be
  appreciated
  as well.
  Thanks, Lana
 


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Re: [Frameworks] Trying to Remember

[Al Matthews]

Frederick the Mouse (Leo Lionni) is rather nice and touches on this issue.
Don't know from what it derives.

While other mice are gathering food for the winter, Frederick seems to
daydream the summer away. When dreary winter comes, it is Frederick [...]
who warms his friends and cheers them with his words. —Wilson Library
Bulletin

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Marina Uzunova 
projectioni...@caboosebooks.net wrote:

 I can't recall which ones but I think a number of tales by the Grimm
 Borthers have a young poor, usually considered ugly, brother or peasant
 save the day. Here's another one that might be relevant:

 There is an unauthored fable with numerous variations across the Balkans
 that tells of a kingdom of young people who had decided to get rid of all
 old people, except for one son who hides his father. The father eventually
 saves the kingdom - through wisdom - by figuring out how to combat a
 monster or overcome a drought, or other challenges. Here's a version
 attributed to Romanian folklore:

 http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0981.html#romania

 An almost analogous one exists in Bulgaria where the old man's answer is
 to dig up all the ant-hills in the kingdom where numerous corn grains are
 being carefully stored.

 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 wrote:

   I vaguely recall, from childhood, a folk tale or fable in which a
 group of people or animals are confronted with a perilous challenge that
 requires the creative input of everyone in the group to solve. Everyone,
 that is, except one individual who is considered so inferior that he is not
 worth consulting. Yet, after failure all around, it is that individual who
 ultimately triumphs with a novel and unexpected solution. Can anyone name a
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Re: [Frameworks] Cameraless Filmmaking emulation in photoshop

[Al Matthews]

Hi Warren, folks,

I'm not familiar with the Photoshop function. Still, the following pair of
GIMP plugins could be useful. One appears to depend on the other:
http://registry.gimp.org/node/28055 requiring
http://registry.gimp.org/node/6128

In addition I think it is possible and probably powerful to work this way
in Blender, though the curve may be a bit steep. Here is a very fast
moving, designer-y tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JjJy8kb9aM .

The workflow appears to be experimental (and based in very recent Blender
versions) but to anyone here not reflexively allergic, if you've not worked
with Blender before, it's worth your time.

Speaking personally, I'm very interested in digital to print workflows.

Al


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Rajesh,

 I know PS still ingests video and you're still able to work
 frame-by-frame. Many folks still use PS for rotoscoping and video cutouts
 because the aesthetic looks handmade - like Kelly Sears' Voice on the Line
 http://vimeo.com/8700224. But in CS3, there was a filmstrip function
 that allowed you to work on a strip of video as if it were a strip of film
 and the product would kinda resemble a cameraless film without discreet
 frames like... Len Lye's Color Box
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PgNr0IZRDE , Ben Russell's Trypps 1
 http://vimeo.com/7480364 , Jodie Mack.s A Joy,
 http://vimeo.com/8375376Brakhage's Night Music
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk8Bs2w5pUI, etc. I'm trying to show
 examples of digital simulacra of the real/organic thing...  or a different,
 digital, material-alienated thing

 But thanks for the suggestion; that dude's pretty excited about some
 smart-object video packaging. And yes, those filter packages in PS are
 examples of digital simulacra that are both material and labor alienating
 for sure. But, I'm looking specifically for this cameraless, frameless,
 digital example.

 thanks again,
 Warren


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Rajesh Barnabas rbarna...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Just making sure you are aware of this technique:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTYxaTV2BkQ

 Sorry if this is not what you are talking about...


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Warren Cockerham 
 warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Frameworks:

 A few years ago, photoshop offered a filmstrip function in its video
 tools. You used to be able to emulate cameraless filmmaking techniques in
 this mode. I believe Gregg Biermann used this technique in some of his
 work. You can still work with video frame-by-frame in photoshop. But, it
 looks like the filmstrip function has disappeared in the last few PS
 versions. Does anyone know where one might work this way digitally? Does
 GIMP offer up this functionality?

 thanks all,
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Re: [Frameworks] Broken mini DV

[Al Matthews]

One of the conservators here and I put our heads together for the following
list.

BAVC offers re-housing of tapes per
http://www.bavc.org/preservation/transfer

Also possibly of interest

George Blood http://www.georgeblood.com/ wrote a number of video
preservation specs for library of congress

http://ptlp.com/about.html

http://www.conservation-us.org/specialty-groups/electronic-media#.U-ujm2NSvJU


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Sean Weitzel panaf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Keep in mind that as others have stated you can transplant the tape into
 another shell, mini dv tape is extremely thin and fragile and great care
 must be taken when working with the tape itself.
 On Aug 13, 2014 9:52 AM, Jon Behrens bolex...@msn.com wrote:

 No
 You can take apart the tape case and remove the insides and install them
 into a another mini DV tape case that does not have a cracked part.

 I did this once years ago with a Beta SP tape that had a similar issue

 Hope this helps
 JB

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 wrote:

  Friends,
 I have discovered that a mini-DV of an interview we did with George
 Kuchar is broken. The “door” on the cassette that opens so the tape can
 thread is cracked and loose. I assume that means the tape is lost, right?

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Re: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter

[Al Matthews]

I agree. I'd be interested btw to know if there's a subset of this list
that's interested in sound design in particular. Could be practical or
theoretical. Zach references Michel Chion on his site for example.

Of interest to some http://www.nicolascollins.com/texts/callforsilence.pdf


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Peter Mudie peter.mu...@uwa.edu.au wrote:

 That ‘Video Silence’ piece is fascinating.
 Peter
 (Perth)

 From: Zach Poff z...@zachpoff.com
 Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
 frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 9:39 pm
 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter

 +1 for Vade's shaders. I haven't used them for anything useful but they
 are a great example of digital tools emulating analog processes. I use MAX
 for all of my work, although it only sometimes resembles analog processes.
 Here are 2 examples:

 In The Shape of Memory MAX algorithmically re-edited found Super8
 footage based on image-similarity, so it begins with one image and then
 searches through all the other frames looking for something similar. Rinse
 and repeat.
 http://www.zachpoff.com/projects/the-shape-of-memory/

 In Video Silence MAX watches live TV and compiles the most silent
 moments, so the result is a constantly-updated loop of fleeting glances,
 awkward pauses and other interruptions of the sonic flow.
 http://www.zachpoff.com/projects/video-silence/

 -Zach Poff

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Re: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter

[Al Matthews]

 sue-c
Nice.

Lynn-Marie Kirby, too, has a fair amount of prior work in MAX-Jitter.

Couple thoughts more:

Anton Marini wrote some shaders and other processes for MAX to resemble
film temperature profiles (technicolor-1, 2, 3, bleach bypass, etc).

( I see David Han has now also mentioned Anton (vade), and Quartz Composer.
There is also, in that series, a mockup of a Rutt-Etra, if I'm not
mistaken. )

Lots of other people use, or have, or once used MAX, and I have some
archived patches in this vein I'd be happy to share if you like. And, there
are many others who use PD instead, or Islandora, Processing, Field, or any
number of other environments -- , fluxus, extempore, choose your poison
-- MAX is great and derived from IRCAM with a long history, but it is
indeed a big world by now. Though it sounds like you need MAX patches in
particular.

Hit me up off list if you care for a trickle of suggestions known to me.



On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:56 AM, John Davis 0johndav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sue Slagle (Sue-C):

 http://www.sue-c.net/

 From: Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
 frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 7:50 AM
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter

 Frameworkers:

 I'm looking for research suggestions of artists, filmmakers, and works
 that utilize Max MSP/Jitter as their main software tool. I am specifically
 interested in FILM and analog video makers and works (experimental,
 abstract, avant-garde) that have used Max to explore or investigate the
 moving image medium via digital processes that resemble or have a direct
 lineage to analog processes. I know there are many instances of hardware
 modifications utilizing Max (and those are welcomed suggestions). But, I'm
 really interested in standalone Max patches or apps that resemble analog
 processes. Expanded Cinema, video installation, live or interactive
 performances (something beyond VJ stuff), and theater/black box works are
 all welcomed suggestions.

 thanks in advance!

 Warren Cockerham
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Re: [Frameworks] Video Projectors, Loops, Thumbdrives

[Al Matthews]

Mpeg2 should also be ok.
On Mar 8, 2014 11:06 AM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Sisters and Brothers,
 I'm installing a three channel video installation now, and have forgotten
 all I once knew about getting projectors to loop images.  Any help would be
 much appreciated.

 In the past, I had a hard time determining which projectors would accept
 which thumbdrives, and which files... I want three fairly short loops to
 play continuously. But some thumbdrives work, some FILES work (and more
 importantly, some don't) and I ended up chasing my tail.  At present I'm
 just using DVD players.

 I'm remembering now:  I had to convert my short loops to MPEG1 in order
 for the projector to read them, but when I did so the compression was
 awful, so better from a DVD

 all best,
 Mark Street
 www.markstreetfilms.com




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Re: [Frameworks] Video Projectors, Loops, Thumbdrives

[Al Matthews]

Here's a relatively old projector spec and already it specifies that h264
compression in an .mov or .mp4 container are supported. That's close to
optimal except maybe in Linux; you might give those profiles a shot.

http://www.optomausa.com/support/discontinued-products/detail/ml500
On Mar 8, 2014 2:57 PM, Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mpeg2 should also be ok.
 On Mar 8, 2014 11:06 AM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Sisters and Brothers,
 I'm installing a three channel video installation now, and have forgotten
 all I once knew about getting projectors to loop images.  Any help would be
 much appreciated.

 In the past, I had a hard time determining which projectors would accept
 which thumbdrives, and which files... I want three fairly short loops to
 play continuously. But some thumbdrives work, some FILES work (and more
 importantly, some don't) and I ended up chasing my tail.  At present I'm
 just using DVD players.

 I'm remembering now:  I had to convert my short loops to MPEG1 in order
 for the projector to read them, but when I did so the compression was
 awful, so better from a DVD

 all best,
 Mark Street
 www.markstreetfilms.com




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Re: [Frameworks] sound track collaboration

[Al Matthews]

Cool. Composers don't mind commissions though.


Al Matthews - http://fatmilktv.com
Atlanta, GA, US +1 337 214 4688


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:51 PM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote:

 To Michael and anyone else seeking music for any kind of film:

 I highly recommend Kevin MacLeod's website http://incompetech.com/ on
 which Kevin offers a wide variety of his compositions in many genres,
 royalty-free. Not only is Kevin gracious enough to make all this stuff
 available for nada, he's also been willing to accommodate reasonable
 requests if you ask nicely (e.g. deleting a MIDI voice or two from one of
 his existing pieces in order to make a more simple background sans
 embellishment).

 My experience working with 'composers' to create original scores has not
 been at all positive. They tend to do their own thing and I tend to gag
 at the result. But then you're stuck with hurt feelings, I did all this
 work JUST for you... One of my friends commissioned his brother (an
 accomplished professional classical musician) to write a score for a film.
 He paid for it, too. The resulting music didn't work with the piece at all,
 so my friend had to ditch it (I heard it, he really HAD to...) This called
 a major family brouhaha, with angst that trailed on for years.

 Far better in most cases to see if Kevin has anything that works for your
 piece. YOU get to pick, and he's happy to get a credit no matter which of
 his works you might choose. Everybody wins. And did I mention that it's
 free?
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Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

[Al Matthews]

Max de Haas, Jean Gremillon, Enrico Fulchignoni, and Jean Rouch are
listed with re: the Groupe de Recherche de Musique Concrète esp
'52-'56

cf Section 2.4.4 in http://music.arts.uci.edu/dobrian/CMC2009/OS12.3.Gayou.pdf

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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, William Wees, Dr.
william.w...@mcgill.ca wrote:
 Arthur Lipsett’s films are composed almost entirely of “found sound.”



 --Bill Wees





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 Of Albert Alcoz
 Sent: November 24, 2013 3:56 PM


 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films





 Hi,



 Institutional Quality by George Landow was created from a found soundtrack,
 in this case a tape recorder about an instructional test.



 Does anyone know other examples that uses found soundtracks for experimental
 films, especially from the sixties and seventies?



 Thanks,



 Albert

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Re: [Frameworks] Archive

[Al Matthews]

If I'm not mistaken, some mail clients obscure those, so the headers may
not now be as visible as they otherwise would be.
Thus in gmail you need top-right triangle-thingy, view original, and in
outlook you'd right click, view source, for example.
Then you can control-f on the word archive.

Apologies if this is obvious.

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On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Pip Chodorov framewo...@re-voir.com wrote:

 The link is in the header of every FrameWorks message - at the top :
 List-Archive: https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/pipermail/**
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 At 9:34 -0400 2/08/13, Bill Seery wrote:

 Where is the Frameworks archive residing these days? The old Hi-Beam
 archive ends in 2011

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Re: [Frameworks] Jud Yalkut RIP

[Al Matthews]

 plus i dont know if his work is archived
 maybe at MOMA ? anyone know?

Hello all. I do not know and would be interested to hear.

Electronic Arts Intermix has a good set of pages
http://www.eai.org/artistSupportDocs.htm?id=257 , though with less between
1974 and 2004. I wonder if there's not a repository in Ohio?

 It might be useful to think about the highly uneven reception some
artists get and the reasons for that.  Perhaps leaving NYC has some effect,
since most of his later career was in flyover country, Ohio.  Or being a
pretty trippy and psychedelic type of maker in some of his work.  Perhaps
some of it was not being written about enough by critics, or curated into
shows often enough, or touring enough.  But some of it must have also been
precisely because of his ease in shifting from one medium to another, and
thus not fitting into experimental film in a pure sense because he also
was involved in video and electronic music and image processing.  It's less
the case now, but for a long time there was a lot of purism in film circles.

All these reasons seem salient to me as well. Speaking to the first and the
last, Ohio has evolved to host for example http://accad.osu.edu/, so no
doubt we agree that it's more flyover country in nyc terms than electronic
arts terms. Surely there's some interesting lag visible here in Jud
Yalkut's readiness to hand, between the centralization that is analog
television and New York and the distributed-global arts presence we're
arriving at by now?

I wonder too how much of the anti-artefactual gesture of the video movement
is here in play. Or perhaps that's a broad stroke.

 When I heard of his passing, I wondered how many younger folks had even
heard of him, much less seen some of his work.

Viewing the work seems the harder bit though, isn't it. It's probably worth
raising my hand to say that, while the distribution channels seem to exist,
at least for certain artefacts, those channels still seem to require a
curator, and I cannot quickly determine if that is for the best.

Corrections appreciated.

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On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:

 i screened some of his work at some curated shows and i think he was a
 kind genius  that was my experience anyway  thanks for the post about him
 passing  i dont believe in death per say only transformation  i dont
 believe in belief either so... but it is sad to see a life go  though he
 is still with us i think  he is a great spirit art makes shifts in and of
 itself without getting accolades from the constituency

 perhaps a tribute can be made a memorial like we did with brakhage in nyc
 but mark fr the academy can possibly get him in the tribute they have at
 the oscars too plus i dont know if his work is archived  maybe at MOMA ?
 anyone know?

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 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Chuck Kleinhans 
 chuck...@northwestern.edu wrote:


  On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:46 PM, David Baker wrote:

  How is it possible
 on an Experimental Film Discussion List
 that so little is said in salute
 when someone of this singular magnitude
 of achievement passes into the cosmic ether
 of eternity?

 When I heard of his passing, I wondered how many younger folks had even
 heard of him, much less seen some of his work.

  It might be useful to think about the highly uneven reception some
 artists get and the reasons for that.  Perhaps leaving NYC has some effect,
 since most of his later career was in flyover country, Ohio.  Or being a
 pretty trippy and psychedelic type of maker in some of his work.  Perhaps
 some of it was not being written about enough by critics, or curated into
 shows often enough, or touring enough.  But some of it must have also been
 precisely because of his ease in shifting from one medium to another, and
 thus not fitting into experimental film in a pure sense because he also
 was involved in video and electronic music and image processing.  It's less
 the case now, but for a long time there was a lot of purism in film circles.

  Chuck Kleinhans

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