Re: [Frameworks] Formula for processing 7240 reversal as vhf or e6?

2015-03-14 Thread Scott Dorsey
I would suggest that, since running E-6 process of VNF film provides 
reasonable (if muted) color, and reduced contrast, that merely increasing
the contrast would probably make you happy.

If I were looking to do this in a small batch environment, I'd first try
just increasing the first developer time, say by 50%, to move the gamma
up somewhat.  If that were not sufficient I might consider doubling the
first developer time, but if that did not bring the gamma up where you
want it, I would consider a more active first developer. 

I would be inclined to leave all the rest of the E-6 chemistry alone.

Now... all that said, I just had Yale run some 7239 for me through
the conventional E-6 bath and while the contrast was quite reduced
compared with VNF processing, the effect was quite nice and was appropriate
for the work.
--scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Formula for processing 7240 reversal as vhf or e6?

2015-03-14 Thread Kevin Rice
Robbie,

Here are the specifications for VFN-1, as published by Kodak:
http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/US_plugins_acrobat_en_motion_support_processing_h2411_h2411.pdf

If you refer to pages 23-25, you'll find the formulas for the first
developer and color developer, which are the critical components (on the
processing side) that will determine the overall hue and saturation of the
image. Also, please note that the module gives two alternative formulas
appended with the abbreviation LC which stands for Low Contrast (so,
probably want to avoid those formulas).

The first developer is a very straightforward PQ developer with added
thiocyanate; you shouldn't have any difficulties finding these ingredients,
with the exception of the sequestering agent (Quadrafos). However, by using
distilled water to mix the developer, you can avoid the use of this
ingredient...

The color developer, on the other hand, is a bit more complex to mix from
scratch. However, since it's purpose is just to act as a redeveloper of the
residual halides, it can be replaced with any other developer that retains
the same color developing agent (i.e CD3). This includes ECN developer (not
C-41) as well as the color developer in E6. The formula for ECN developer
can be found here:
http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/US_plugins_acrobat_en_motion_support_processing_h247_h2407.pdf

Bleach and fix are the same for all color processes -- Just use what's most
readily available to you, or mix a simple ferricyanide bleach (15.0g
Potassium Bromide / 15.0g Potassium Ferricyanide / Dilute to 1 Liter) and
then use that in conjunction with any fix -- B/W or otherwise...

As for altering the process to get higher contrast or color, you can try
experimenting with the first developer. For instance, you could increase
the ratio of hydroquinone to phenidone, or increase the alkalinity of the
developer...you could also use there LC formulas to interpolate a
possible equation for increasing the contrast

Anyway, hope this helps,

Kevin Rice
processreversal.org
pcn03031989.com
(720) 270.3857

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Scout Fenn scoutf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone have a formula for processing the older color reversal 7240
 film , which was intended for VNF-1 process, but possible in E6. I'm aware
 E6 process will provide result, but I'm hoping to achieve a higher contrast
 more saturated image than what E6 results with this stock. Therefore, does
 anyone perhaps have alterations to E6 or a VNF-like formula that may
 produce higher contrast and color? Or perhaps a source? I'm hoping to
 process as reversal  rather than crossprocess. Thanks for any assistance .
 -robbie

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[Frameworks] Formula for processing 7240 reversal as vhf or e6?

2015-03-13 Thread Scout Fenn
Does anyone have a formula for processing the older color reversal 7240
film , which was intended for VNF-1 process, but possible in E6. I'm aware
E6 process will provide result, but I'm hoping to achieve a higher contrast
more saturated image than what E6 results with this stock. Therefore, does
anyone perhaps have alterations to E6 or a VNF-like formula that may
produce higher contrast and color? Or perhaps a source? I'm hoping to
process as reversal  rather than crossprocess. Thanks for any assistance .
-robbie
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Re: [Frameworks] Formula for processing 7240 reversal as vhf or e6?

2015-03-13 Thread Beebe, Roger W.
Robbie,

Try contacting Nicolas Rey:  nico...@l-abominable.org.  I just sent him 18 
400’ rolls of 7240 that had been lying around forever, and he seems to think he 
can make good use of it.

FYI,
Roger

On Mar 14, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Scout Fenn scoutf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone have a formula for processing the older color reversal 7240 film 
 , which was intended for VNF-1 process, but possible in E6. I'm aware E6 
 process will provide result, but I'm hoping to achieve a higher contrast more 
 saturated image than what E6 results with this stock. Therefore, does anyone 
 perhaps have alterations to E6 or a VNF-like formula that may produce higher 
 contrast and color? Or perhaps a source? I'm hoping to process as reversal  
 rather than crossprocess. Thanks for any assistance .
 -robbie
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