Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-30 Thread Ruth Hayes
I received my order and when I called yesterday to see if I could place an 
order for film for my students was told that they stopped taking orders for 
7363 on August 29th. So I guess it's gone!

I'm interested in finding a  16mm stock for photograms that is similarly easy 
to expose and hand-process (meaning with a safe light and not-so-toxic 
chemistry).  If anyone has any leads, please let me know!

Ruth Hayes
http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:40 AM, 40 Frames wrote:

 
 I received my back ordered 7363 last week. Are others receiving their back 
 orders? 
 
 Are others still placing B/Os of 7363? 
 
 Alain
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Toscano filmobj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT currently 
 being discontinued, so no worries (for now!)
 
 Mark
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre email.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Mark
 
 Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
 I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
 wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
 Thanks
 
 Lindsay McIntyre
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
  order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
  long as it comes in basically NOW.
 
  So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
  while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you should
  be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this point
  that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.
 
  The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
  being discontinued.
 
  All the best,
 
  Mark Toscano
 
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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-30 Thread Scott Dorsey
For photograms you might try 7366, which is fine with an LED red safelight
and will develop in Dektol. 

You could also try 7302, which will be still less sensitive.  However, 7302
will be long pitch so it will not print as well or sharply as a short pitch
intermediate film.

Neither one of these will be as contrasty, which you may or may not like.
If you absolutely have to have the contrast, a sound recording stock will
be better (and those are short pitch but they are also all estar-based today).
--scott
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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-30 Thread Robert Schaller
7302, black and white print stock, works well for photograms, and it's
orthochromatic like 7363.  Big minimum quantity, but considering the way
things are going having a big supply laid away is not such a bad idea!

Sound track films are also appropriate -- is Kodak's 7378?  Other
companies make this sort of stock, too, orthochromatic high contrast B+W. 
Others on the list have mentioned them...

I'm really sad about HiCon.

On Tue, September 30, 2014 8:03 am, Ruth Hayes wrote:
 I received my order and when I called yesterday to see if I could place
 an order for film for my students was told that they stopped taking
 orders for 7363 on August 29th. So I guess it's gone!

 I'm interested in finding a  16mm stock for photograms that is similarly
 easy to expose and hand-process (meaning with a safe light and
 not-so-toxic chemistry).  If anyone has any leads, please let me know!

 Ruth Hayes
 http://www.randommotion.com
 blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

 On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:40 AM, 40 Frames wrote:



 I received my back ordered 7363 last week. Are others receiving their
 back orders?

 Are others still placing B/Os of 7363?


 Alain



 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Toscano filmobj...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT
 currently being discontinued, so no worries (for now!)

 Mark



 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre
 email.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Mark


 Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
 I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
 wondering if I need to worry about this one too. Thanks


 Lindsay McIntyre






 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,


 I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on
 back order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any
 order as long as it comes in basically NOW.

 So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an
 order while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but
 you should be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100%
 guarantee at this point that you'll get the stock, but it's very
 likely.

 The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is
 also being discontinued.

 All the best,


 Mark Toscano


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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-30 Thread nicky . hamlyn
Try Agfa ST8. It's an orthochromatic sound recording stock. You can get it 
direct from Agfa in 2 x 2000' cans. They usually want you to buy some 
astronomical quantity, ie 105 cans, but they can be talked down,

NIcky.

 

 

 

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From: Ruth Hayes randomr...@comcast.net
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:03
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now


I received my order and when I called yesterday to see if I could place an 
order for film for my students was told that they stopped taking orders for 
7363 on August 29th. So I guess it's gone!


I'm interested in finding a  16mm stock for photograms that is similarly easy 
to expose and hand-process (meaning with a safe light and not-so-toxic 
chemistry).  If anyone has any leads, please let me know!


Ruth Hayes


http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr



On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:40 AM, 40 Frames wrote:




I received my back ordered 7363 last week. Are others receiving their back 
orders? 


Are others still placing B/Os of 7363? 


Alain




On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Toscano filmobj...@gmail.com wrote:

Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT currently being 
discontinued, so no worries (for now!)


Mark





On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre email.li...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Mark

Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
Thanks

Lindsay McIntyre





On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
 order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
 long as it comes in basically NOW.

 So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
 while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you should
 be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this point
 that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.

 The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
 being discontinued.

 All the best,

 Mark Toscano

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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-30 Thread 40 Frames
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:06 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote:

 Try Agfa ST8. It's an orthochromatic sound recording stock. You can get
 it direct from Agfa in 2 x 2000' cans. They usually want you to buy some
 astronomical quantity, ie 105 cans, but they can be talked down,



Nicky,

Who is you contact at Agfa? I've pretty much avoided Agfa because of the
high minimums; and this
was a few years back when HFC, the US distributors, required a 10 (2000')
roll minimum.

If Afga will allow ordering  shipping two rolls at a time, this will be
good news to Mr. Tuohy (Richard your 2000' mag will be waiting for you in
BC in November), as well as other craft labers around North
America... Cineworks Film Annex, etc.

Not to mention those doing photograms...

Alain






  -Original Message-
 From: Ruth Hayes randomr...@comcast.net
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:03
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

  I received my order and when I called yesterday to see if I could place
 an order for film for my students was told that they stopped taking orders
 for 7363 on August 29th. So I guess it's gone!

  I'm interested in finding a  16mm stock for photograms that is similarly
 easy to expose and hand-process (meaning with a safe light and not-so-toxic
 chemistry).  If anyone has any leads, please let me know!

  Ruth Hayes
   http://www.randommotion.com
 blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

  On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:40 AM, 40 Frames wrote:


 I received my back ordered 7363 last week. Are others receiving their back
 orders?

  Are others still placing B/Os of 7363?

  Alain


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Toscano filmobj...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT currently
 being discontinued, so no worries (for now!)

  Mark


  On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre 
 email.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mark

 Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
 I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
 wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
 Thanks

 Lindsay McIntyre





 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
  order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order
 as
  long as it comes in basically NOW.
 
  So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an
 order
  while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you
 should
  be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this
 point
  that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.
 
  The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is
 also
  being discontinued.
 
  All the best,
 
  Mark Toscano
 
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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-30 Thread nicky . hamlyn
I found it very difficult to contact them as they don't have an office in the 
UK. I emailed head office in Belgium (?) and eventually, after a few weeks, 
someone from Pinewood studios, whose name I forget now -this was in about 2010- 
called and asked me a few questions; who was I, what was the film for etc. I 
answered all these and two days later a courier arrived with a can of ST8, all 
free of charge! Subsequently it was harder to get, and someone from my college 
was told initially that he could only order 105 cans. Perhaps the thing is to 
try to do a bulk buy and then sell it on, as someone else here suggested. They 
will consider selling smaller quantities: I guess they are used dealing with 
big labs but once they know who you are, ie a college department, they are 
quite amenable.

Nicky.

 

 

 

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To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:40
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On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:06 AM,  nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote:

Try Agfa ST8. It's an orthochromatic sound recording stock. You can get it 
direct from Agfa in 2 x 2000' cans. They usually want you to buy some 
astronomical quantity, ie 105 cans, but they can be talked down,








Nicky, 


Who is you contact at Agfa? I've pretty much avoided Agfa because of the high 
minimums; and this
was a few years back when HFC, the US distributors, required a 10 (2000') roll 
minimum. 


If Afga will allow ordering  shipping two rolls at a time, this will be good 
news to Mr. Tuohy (Richard your 2000' mag will be waiting for you in BC in 
November), as well as other craft labers around North
America... Cineworks Film Annex, etc. 


Not to mention those doing photograms...


Alain






 


 

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From: Ruth Hayes randomr...@comcast.net
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:03
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now


I received my order and when I called yesterday to see if I could place an 
order for film for my students was told that they stopped taking orders for 
7363 on August 29th. So I guess it's gone!


I'm interested in finding a  16mm stock for photograms that is similarly easy 
to expose and hand-process (meaning with a safe light and not-so-toxic 
chemistry).  If anyone has any leads, please let me know!


Ruth Hayes


http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr



On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:40 AM, 40 Frames wrote:




I received my back ordered 7363 last week. Are others receiving their back 
orders? 


Are others still placing B/Os of 7363? 


Alain




On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Toscano filmobj...@gmail.com wrote:

Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT currently being 
discontinued, so no worries (for now!)


Mark





On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre email.li...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Mark

Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
Thanks

Lindsay McIntyre





On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
 order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
 long as it comes in basically NOW.

 So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
 while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you should
 be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this point
 that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.

 The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
 being discontinued.

 All the best,

 Mark Toscano

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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-30 Thread Ruth Hayes
thanks all for the ideas. I'll look into those stocks.

Ruth

http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

On Sep 30, 2014, at 9:06 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote:

 Try Agfa ST8. It's an orthochromatic sound recording stock. You can get it 
 direct from Agfa in 2 x 2000' cans. They usually want you to buy some 
 astronomical quantity, ie 105 cans, but they can be talked down,
 
 NIcky.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ruth Hayes randomr...@comcast.net
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:03
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now
 
 I received my order and when I called yesterday to see if I could place an 
 order for film for my students was told that they stopped taking orders for 
 7363 on August 29th. So I guess it's gone!
 
 I'm interested in finding a  16mm stock for photograms that is similarly easy 
 to expose and hand-process (meaning with a safe light and not-so-toxic 
 chemistry).  If anyone has any leads, please let me know!
 
 Ruth Hayes
 http://www.randommotion.com
 blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr
 
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:40 AM, 40 Frames wrote:
 
 
 I received my back ordered 7363 last week. Are others receiving their back 
 orders? 
 
 Are others still placing B/Os of 7363? 
 
 Alain
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Toscano filmobj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT currently 
 being discontinued, so no worries (for now!)
 
 Mark
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre email.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Mark
 
 Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
 I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
 wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
 Thanks
 
 Lindsay McIntyre
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
  order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
  long as it comes in basically NOW.
 
  So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
  while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you should
  be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this point
  that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.
 
  The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
  being discontinued.
 
  All the best,
 
  Mark Toscano
 
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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-30 Thread Scott Dorsey
ST-8 is very close to Kodak's 2378, it's pretty fast, polyester, short pitch.
--scott
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2014-09-29 Thread 40 Frames
I received my back ordered 7363 last week. Are others receiving their back
orders?

Are others still placing B/Os of 7363?

Alain


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Toscano filmobj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT currently
 being discontinued, so no worries (for now!)

 Mark


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre email.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Mark

 Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
 I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
 wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
 Thanks

 Lindsay McIntyre





 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
  order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order
 as
  long as it comes in basically NOW.
 
  So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
  while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you
 should
  be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this
 point
  that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.
 
  The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
  being discontinued.
 
  All the best,
 
  Mark Toscano
 
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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-09-29 Thread Robert Schaller
I received a call last week informing me that Kodak was now shipping
backorders, and I had a long talk with the representative who called; she
had been there a long time, and commiserated with me about the
discontinuation of 7363 and a bunch of other stocks that she named.  She
was unhappy about the way things were going, and it sure didn't sound like
there would be any more made!

I have the impression that it's gone forever.  I'd love to be shown wrong!

--Robert

On Mon, September 29, 2014 11:40 am, 40 Frames wrote:
 I received my back ordered 7363 last week. Are others receiving their
 back orders?

 Are others still placing B/Os of 7363?


 Alain



 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Toscano filmobj...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT
 currently being discontinued, so no worries (for now!)

 Mark



 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre
 email.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Hi Mark


 Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
  I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
 wondering if I need to worry about this one too. Thanks


 Lindsay McIntyre






 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,


 I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on
 back order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill
 any order
 as
 long as it comes in basically NOW.

 So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an
 order while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order,
 but you
 should
 be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at
 this
 point
 that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.

 The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is
 also being discontinued.

 All the best,


 Mark Toscano


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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-08-27 Thread Margaret Rorison
Thanks for the tips, Mark.

I just spoke with a Kodak rep, who told me they are taking orders for 7363
ONLY until the end of this month (which is the end of this week!)


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 Subject: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now
 Hi all,

 I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
 order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
 long as it comes in basically NOW.

 So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
 while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you should
 be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this point
 that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.

 The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
 being discontinued.

 All the best,

 Mark Toscano


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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-08-27 Thread lindsay mcintyre
Hi Mark

Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
Thanks

Lindsay McIntyre





On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
 order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
 long as it comes in basically NOW.

 So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
 while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you should
 be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this point
 that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.

 The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
 being discontinued.

 All the best,

 Mark Toscano

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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-08-27 Thread Film Object
Hey Lindsay,

It's not on the discontinuation list they sent me earlier this month, but a rep 
offhandedly mentioned it, though that may have been an error.  I just emailed 
them to get the official word.

Mark


 On Aug 27, 2014, at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre email.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mark
 
 Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
 I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
 wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
 Thanks
 
 Lindsay McIntyre
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
 order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
 long as it comes in basically NOW.
 
 So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
 while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you should
 be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this point
 that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.
 
 The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
 being discontinued.
 
 All the best,
 
 Mark Toscano
 
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Re: [Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-08-27 Thread Mark Toscano
Just heard from Kodak, and indeed, the 35mm hicon (5363) is NOT currently
being discontinued, so no worries (for now!)

Mark


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsay mcintyre email.li...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Mark

 Are you sure about the 5363? You were right about everything else but
 I hadn't heard about 5363.  I've got my order in for 7363 but just
 wondering if I need to worry about this one too.
 Thanks

 Lindsay McIntyre





 On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
  order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
  long as it comes in basically NOW.
 
  So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
  while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you
 should
  be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this
 point
  that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.
 
  The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
  being discontinued.
 
  All the best,
 
  Mark Toscano
 
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[Frameworks] If you want Kodak hicon, order it now

2014-08-26 Thread Mark Toscano
Hi all,

I spoke to the L.A. Kodak rep yesterday, and 7363 16mm hicon is on back
order, but the current plan is for Kodak to most likely fill any order as
long as it comes in basically NOW.

So if you want any of this stuff, call 1-800-621-FILM and place an order
while you can.  You will likely be told it's on back order, but you should
be able to place an order anyway.  It's not a 100% guarantee at this point
that you'll get the stock, but it's very likely.

The same should be the case for 5363 35mm hicon, which I believe is also
being discontinued.

All the best,

Mark Toscano
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