Re: [Frameworks] Texts / Works Bridging Early Cinema, Early Video, Early ___

2016-01-14 Thread Steve Polta
Herbert Jean deGrasse:* Film Watchers* (1974) http://canyoncinema.com/catalog/film/?i=730 Back to Tony Conrad and spoilers... Somewhere out there there are stories about a very short Conrad film which involves a long, very elaborate, personal introduction by the filmmaker, in which he goes on and

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2016-01-14 Thread Bernard Roddy
I think this work by Tony mentioned by Fred is reproduced as a diagram/instruction in: W + B Hein : Dokumente 1967-1985, Fotos, Briefe, Texte. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Cinema Project wrote: > Jesse! > > In regards to "well-deployed spoilers," I might look into

Re: [Frameworks] Texts / Works Bridging Early Cinema, Early Video, Early ___

2016-01-14 Thread Steve Polta
A 16mm print of Tony Conrad's *Film Feedback *is distributed in 16mm by Canyon Cinema. http://canyoncinema.com/catalog/film/?i=680 1974, 15 minutes. Yeah I think it's a candle but it's basically "the" rectangle. White screen, filmed in negative becomes black, re-projected & filmed, processed

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2016-01-14 Thread Esperanza Collado
I was thinking of Raban´s piece as well, and there is another Conrad work that may fit into the idea of "well-deployed spoilers" which is his "Film electrocution". I copy and paste from IFFR: "A semi-scientific experiment to expose film by electrocution, involving a Tesla Coil, medical lubricant

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2016-01-14 Thread Jonathan Walley
There is indeed a candle onscreen, though by the end of the film the image gets pretty hard to make out but the end - its legibility is already compromised by the speedy development process (the film was running at only a few frames per second out from the camera, over rollers, under doors,

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2016-01-14 Thread Andy Ditzler
I'd recommend The Cut-Ups, film by Antony Balch in collaboration with William Burroughs and Brion Gysin. On two occasions (Documenta in 2007 and my own screening in Atlanta 2009), it drove the audience into active rebellion. (Since I had associated screening rebellions with past eras, I was quite

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2016-01-14 Thread Jonathan Walley
http://rhizome.org/editorial/2009/jan/07/setting-the-tome/ scroll to the bottom of the article for the diagram. I’ve heard tell of this work being produced more than once, and I’ve always wanted to try it myself (with a group of

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2016-01-13 Thread Jamie Cleeland
http://samples.sainsburysebooks.co.uk/9781400853366_sample_641045.pdf Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jan 2016, at 14:46, Chuck Kleinhans wrote: > > An answer depends on how “early” you’re talking about film (1890s? later?), > and about video (Broadcast TV or Portapak?).

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2016-01-13 Thread Fred Camper
Yes, that's right. Because it was positive film, a succession of black and white rectangles appeared inside each other as with each new pass the previous result was filmed. I believe it was around 40 minutes long. It was really interesting; I had never seen anything like it before, and have

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2016-01-13 Thread robert harris
The “early cinema/early video” query is a good one, one that I’ve not seen explored with much rigor. Kleinhans’ question of “broadcast TV or portapak” is significant. Early TV might have more in common with radio than with early film. Early video (portapak) provoked, for some practitioners,

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2016-01-13 Thread Cinema Project
Jesse! In regards to "well-deployed spoilers," I might look into Maurice LeMaître's "Le film est déjà commencé?" from 1952. It was a Lettrist film and supposed staged provocation. There's some accounts/ info on it in Off-Screen Cinema by Kaira M Cabañas. Might not be what you're looking for at

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2016-01-13 Thread Pip Chodorov
Hi Fred, wasn't the first image of a candle burning? I saw Tony project this, not as a performance but as a final print. Pip At 23:50 -0500 13/01/16, Fred Camper wrote: Yes, that's right. Because it was positive film, a succession of black and white rectangles appeared inside each other as

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2016-01-13 Thread Pip Chodorov
I can provide Lemaitre's film if you are interested. Isou's film ON VENOM AND ETERNITY is an earlier iteration, Lemaitre went farther into self-recursion (a film about itself). Pip At 22:47 -0800 13/01/16, Cinema Project wrote: In regards to "well-deployed spoilers," I might look into

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2016-01-13 Thread Gene Youngblood
I believe Tony Conrad did some kind of demonstration or performance of “film feedback” in which exposed 16mm film went immediately into a developing bath and was projected, and the projection was filmed and projected, and so on. No doubt someone on this list remembers that and can describe it

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2016-01-12 Thread Marc Couroux
Hey Jesse, Not exactly related, but I'd highly recommend Barnouw's Magician and the Cinema , which expounds on Arthur C. Clarke's later statement that any sufficiently advanced technology is

[Frameworks] Texts / Works Bridging Early Cinema, Early Video, Early ___

2016-01-12 Thread Jesse Malmed
Hello, I'm looking for texts and works that draw connections (and erase them too, sure) between early cinema and the beginnings of video. And, for that matter, with other nascent technologies and their shared tendencies. Camera tricks, formal inventiveness, actualities, etc. Also, while I've got