[Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-21 Thread Bernard Roddy
Abstraction and the Holocaust (Yale, 2007), by Mark Godfrey___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-12 Thread Kelly Sears
Thank you everyone for these suggestions, lots of good works to follow on, thanks again for sharing. Kelly On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Kate Dollenmayer dollenma...@gmail.comwrote: Fear of Blushing by Jennifer Reeves On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Chuck Kleinhans

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-08 Thread Kelly Sears
Thank you everyone for your responses. These are satisfying the itch behind this question. I very much agree, the terms 'political' and 'abstract' both have so much grey area around them. I'm interested in exploring these varying degrees of grey behind this question. Brakhage's production as

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-08 Thread Ingo Petzke
BLACK TV Aldo Tambellini _ Von: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] Im Auftrag von Kelly Sears Gesendet: Montag, 7. Oktober 2013 05:00 An: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Betreff: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics Dear frameworkers, I would love

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-08 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
On Oct 8, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Steve Polta wrote: Seeking the Monkey King by Ken Jacobs is entirely abstract visually but uses textual intertitles to specifically comment on capitalism, the current economy, the Occupy movement, etc. I agree this is a particularly apt example. While not quite

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-08 Thread Kate Dollenmayer
Fear of Blushing by Jennifer Reeves On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Chuck Kleinhans chuck...@northwestern.eduwrote: On Oct 8, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Steve Polta wrote: *Seeking the Monkey* *King* by Ken Jacobs is entirely abstract visually but uses textual intertitles to specifically

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-07 Thread marilyn brakhage
While they probably wouldn't normally be considered political, some Stan Brakhage films are short, abstract works that can be seen, at least in part, as meditations on certain cultural histories. For examples: Unconscious London Strata, In Consideration of Pompeii, b Series (containing

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-07 Thread Beebe, Roger
Kelly, This is an interesting question, and it demands a complicated answer. First, I think it's important to note that abstraction is not an absolute but that there's a large gray area between abstraction and representation. I'd argue that many if not most experimental films inhabit that

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-07 Thread Fred Camper
Of course, Brakhage, and of course, 23rd Psalm Branch. I have also argued, for example in my liner notes for the Criterion DVD, that his work as a whole constitutes an argument against our object-oriented, commodified, static, consumerist culture. This to me is arguably a profounder

[Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-06 Thread Kelly Sears
Dear frameworkers, I would love to pick your collective brain about some film/videos that use abstraction to address political, social, or cultural histories. I would double love it if anyone had any suggestions of writings on this topic as well. I'm interested in learning more about how this

Re: [Frameworks] abstraction and politics

2013-10-06 Thread Fred Camper
Films and writings of (and about) Paul Sharits, Peter Gidal, Malcolm LeGrice Fred Camper Chicago Quoting Kelly Sears kelly.se...@gmail.com: Dear frameworkers, I would love to pick your collective brain about some film/videos that use abstraction to address political, social, or