Re: [Frameworks] FLAME ON!!!

2014-02-20 Thread carlileb
Exactly what's the point of it? Just to use the cameras? They're not that great, and what they can do well needs super 8. It's pointless. Also, exactly when were S8 cartridges unavailable? They're still around. -Original Message- From: Aaron F. Ross To: Experimental Film Discussi

[Frameworks] question about fees for permission to use material

2014-02-20 Thread Caryn Cline
Dear Frameworkers, I'm writing to ask your advice. I'm working on a short handmade, experimental film that takes as its "script" a slightly modified version of an essay I found in the *New York Times*, which I plan to use as a voiceover narration on the soundtrack. I wrote to the author to ask

Re: [Frameworks] question about fees for permission to use material

2014-02-20 Thread Francisco Torres
If you modify it ''substantially'' it becomes a different text. Think William Burroughs... On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Caryn Cline wrote: > Dear Frameworkers, > > > > I'm writing to ask your advice. I'm working on a short handmade, > experimental film that takes as its "script" a slightly

Re: [Frameworks] question about fees for permission to use material

2014-02-20 Thread carlileb
Unless it's super-vital, write your own narration as a replacement. Fair Use would only kick in if you were citing the article in a criticism, review or parody. Is the author absolutely sure that the NYT owns the copyright? Oftentimes the rights revert back to the outside author upon publicati

Re: [Frameworks] question about fees for permission to use material

2014-02-20 Thread Gene Youngblood
I recently asked the Los Angeles Times for permission to reprint a couple of photos. They said they have them, but they were “handouts” that were not taken by a Times photographer, and they don’t know who did take them, or where they came from, so therefore I can’t have them. In other words, no

Re: [Frameworks] question about fees for permission to use material

2014-02-20 Thread Ted Hardin
To expand on Francisco's idea, you could also ring up the original author and record an interview about his essay. Paraphrasing, perhaps even 'quoting' his original writing, would be acceptable. Look up cases that are about how Fair Use protects references to copyright material. You would hav

Re: [Frameworks] question about fees for permission to use material

2014-02-20 Thread David Tetzlaff
> as one friend who works in the business cautioned: my project and I are on > their radar now. There is ZERO chance the NYT will sue you. They might not even send you a cease and desist letter. Copyright holders only go after people with money they can earn a judgement from, or people they see

Re: [Frameworks] question about fees for permission to use material

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel Wilson
To add to David Tetzlaff's comments, first...I wholeheartedly agree. In addition to Fair Use though, look up and read specifically about the concept of "derivative work". Classic example: Andy Warhol takes the Campbell's Soup or Brillo "branding" AS IS...but by recontextualizing it, he creates a de