Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
There are literally dozens and dozens of different motors for the NPR, everybody and his brother made one. As Jeff says, if you want to shoot synch, you probably want the Alcan. Now, there are some other motors out there that give you crystal control and varying speeds, and some of them that do ramps and fancy things, and if you come across one I wouldn't turn it down, but they are not as common as the Alcan and not as well-supported. Also be aware that not all Perfectone motors are crystal-synch... there is one model Perfectone that is fairly accurate but will still require an umbilical. I don't know where to send you... Chambless always has motors for those things, but they want ludicrously high prices for them given the current market for 16mm gear. And there's no reason to replace your motor when it is likely not difficult to repair at someplace like DuAll or Whitehouse. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:20 PM mariah garnett wrote: > its just the one i have. I don't know where to buy crystal sync motors for > the npr (except ebay) and I don't see any listed there. Does anyone know > where to buy a crystal sync motor for an eclair npr that isn't ebay? > Try Bob Allen and/or Cinema Engineering (both in LA at the number and web contacts I provided), then try Visual Products (Ohio), and Du-All (NY). These venders/contacts are the most likely to have motors, parts, etc. If you do indeed have an Aaton Alcan 54 motor for your NPR, I encourage your to send it to AZ Spectrum. Andrew was one of the few I could find who were interested in working on my Alcan motor. And it still works perfectly. Alain > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:17 PM Jeff Kreines wrote: > >> Any reason for the Perfectone? The flat base is nice but it’s bigger for >> handheld shooting. Alcan 54 is the desirable one. >> >> Jeff Kreines >> Kinetta >> j...@kinetta.com >> kinetta.com >> >> Sent from iPhone. >> >> On Feb 19, 2020, at 4:30 PM, mariah garnett >> wrote: >> >> >> Any advice on where to get a perfectone motor? I've checked ebay but not >> sure where else to look >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:59 PM Jon Behrens wrote: >> >>> Hi here is a thought, you might consider just buying a new motor all >>> together. Might be cheaper because there are tones of them out there. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Ethan Berry >>> wrote: >>> >>> You might see if Bernie O'Dougherty still works on NPR's. He has done >>> work on my NPR and ACL. >>> ber...@super16inc.com >>> Ethan Berry >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >>>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>>1. Re: OPEN CALL (Charles Chadwick) >>>>2. Eclair npr (mariah garnett) >>>>3. Re: Eclair npr (Jeff Kreines) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message -- >>>> From: Charles Chadwick >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:53:34 -0800 >>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] OPEN CALL >>>> Hi Ms baker, >>>> >>>> I have a longish short called gibber eidolon. It's about 20 min. Long. >>>> Would you be interested in previewing it? It's only played publicly once so >>>> far. Thx. >>>> >>>> -charles >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 AM Nicole Baker wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello frameworkers! >>>>> I am at the very early stages of assembling a program of experimental >>>>> shorts to be shown in an online screening. This will be a streaming event >>>>> and is possibly ongoing. Think of it like a cable access show for the >>>>> digital era. >>>>> I am opening a call for experimental submission from any genre! Shorts >>>>> are best for logistics sake (file size) but I'm happy to work with you if >>>>> you want to show something long form. >>>>> Pass the word along! Thanks. >>>>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson >>>>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >>>>> Pacific Northwest College of Art >>>>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >>>>> *www.magiklantern.com <http://www.magiklantern.com>* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> >&g
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
its just the one i have. I don't know where to buy crystal sync motors for the npr (except ebay) and I don't see any listed there. Does anyone know where to buy a crystal sync motor for an eclair npr that isn't ebay? On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:17 PM Jeff Kreines wrote: > Any reason for the Perfectone? The flat base is nice but it’s bigger for > handheld shooting. Alcan 54 is the desirable one. > > Jeff Kreines > Kinetta > j...@kinetta.com > kinetta.com > > Sent from iPhone. > > On Feb 19, 2020, at 4:30 PM, mariah garnett > wrote: > > > Any advice on where to get a perfectone motor? I've checked ebay but not > sure where else to look > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:59 PM Jon Behrens wrote: > >> Hi here is a thought, you might consider just buying a new motor all >> together. Might be cheaper because there are tones of them out there. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 19, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Ethan Berry >> wrote: >> >> You might see if Bernie O'Dougherty still works on NPR's. He has done >> work on my NPR and ACL. >> ber...@super16inc.com >> Ethan Berry >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM >> wrote: >> >>> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>>1. Re: OPEN CALL (Charles Chadwick) >>>2. Eclair npr (mariah garnett) >>>3. Re: Eclair npr (Jeff Kreines) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: Charles Chadwick >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:53:34 -0800 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] OPEN CALL >>> Hi Ms baker, >>> >>> I have a longish short called gibber eidolon. It's about 20 min. Long. >>> Would you be interested in previewing it? It's only played publicly once so >>> far. Thx. >>> >>> -charles >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 AM Nicole Baker wrote: >>> >>>> Hello frameworkers! >>>> I am at the very early stages of assembling a program of experimental >>>> shorts to be shown in an online screening. This will be a streaming event >>>> and is possibly ongoing. Think of it like a cable access show for the >>>> digital era. >>>> I am opening a call for experimental submission from any genre! Shorts >>>> are best for logistics sake (file size) but I'm happy to work with you if >>>> you want to show something long form. >>>> Pass the word along! Thanks. >>>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson >>>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >>>> Pacific Northwest College of Art >>>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >>>> *www.magiklantern.com <http://www.magiklantern.com>* >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: mariah garnett >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:47:46 -0800 >>> Subject: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >>> Hello all, >>> My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is >>> anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record >>> dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series >>> and others... >>> >>> or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >>> lots of possibilities here! >>> best >>> mg >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: Jeff Kreines >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List &
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Any reason for the Perfectone? The flat base is nice but it’s bigger for handheld shooting. Alcan 54 is the desirable one. Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com Sent from iPhone. > On Feb 19, 2020, at 4:30 PM, mariah garnett wrote: > > > Any advice on where to get a perfectone motor? I've checked ebay but not sure > where else to look > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:59 PM Jon Behrens wrote: >> Hi here is a thought, you might consider just buying a new motor all >> together. Might be cheaper because there are tones of them out there. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 19, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Ethan Berry wrote: >>> >>> You might see if Bernie O'Dougherty still works on NPR's. He has done work >>> on my NPR and ACL. >>> ber...@super16inc.com >>> Ethan Berry >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM >>>> wrote: >>>> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >>>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>>1. Re: OPEN CALL (Charles Chadwick) >>>>2. Eclair npr (mariah garnett) >>>>3. Re: Eclair npr (Jeff Kreines) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message -- >>>> From: Charles Chadwick >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:53:34 -0800 >>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] OPEN CALL >>>> Hi Ms baker, >>>> >>>> I have a longish short called gibber eidolon. It's about 20 min. Long. >>>> Would you be interested in previewing it? It's only played publicly once >>>> so far. Thx. >>>> >>>> -charles >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 AM Nicole Baker wrote: >>>>> Hello frameworkers! >>>>> I am at the very early stages of assembling a program of experimental >>>>> shorts to be shown in an online screening. This will be a streaming event >>>>> and is possibly ongoing. Think of it like a cable access show for the >>>>> digital era. >>>>> I am opening a call for experimental submission from any genre! Shorts >>>>> are best for logistics sake (file size) but I'm happy to work with you if >>>>> you want to show something long form. >>>>> Pass the word along! Thanks. >>>>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson >>>>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >>>>> Pacific Northwest College of Art >>>>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >>>>> www.magiklantern.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message -- >>>> From: mariah garnett >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:47:46 -0800 >>>> Subject: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >>>> Hello all, >>>> My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is >>>> anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record >>>> dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series >>>> and others... >>>> >>>> or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >>>> lots of possibilities here! >>>> best >>>> mg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message -- >>>> From: Jeff Kreines >>&
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Any reason for the Perfectone? The flat base is nice but it’s bigger for handheld shooting. Alcan 54 is the desirable one. Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com Sent from iPhone. > On Feb 19, 2020, at 4:30 PM, mariah garnett wrote: > > > Any advice on where to get a perfectone motor? I've checked ebay but not sure > where else to look > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:59 PM Jon Behrens wrote: >> Hi here is a thought, you might consider just buying a new motor all >> together. Might be cheaper because there are tones of them out there. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 19, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Ethan Berry wrote: >>> >>> You might see if Bernie O'Dougherty still works on NPR's. He has done work >>> on my NPR and ACL. >>> ber...@super16inc.com >>> Ethan Berry >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM >>>> wrote: >>>> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >>>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>>1. Re: OPEN CALL (Charles Chadwick) >>>>2. Eclair npr (mariah garnett) >>>>3. Re: Eclair npr (Jeff Kreines) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message -- >>>> From: Charles Chadwick >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:53:34 -0800 >>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] OPEN CALL >>>> Hi Ms baker, >>>> >>>> I have a longish short called gibber eidolon. It's about 20 min. Long. >>>> Would you be interested in previewing it? It's only played publicly once >>>> so far. Thx. >>>> >>>> -charles >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 AM Nicole Baker wrote: >>>>> Hello frameworkers! >>>>> I am at the very early stages of assembling a program of experimental >>>>> shorts to be shown in an online screening. This will be a streaming event >>>>> and is possibly ongoing. Think of it like a cable access show for the >>>>> digital era. >>>>> I am opening a call for experimental submission from any genre! Shorts >>>>> are best for logistics sake (file size) but I'm happy to work with you if >>>>> you want to show something long form. >>>>> Pass the word along! Thanks. >>>>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson >>>>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >>>>> Pacific Northwest College of Art >>>>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >>>>> www.magiklantern.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message -- >>>> From: mariah garnett >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:47:46 -0800 >>>> Subject: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >>>> Hello all, >>>> My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is >>>> anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record >>>> dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series >>>> and others... >>>> >>>> or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >>>> lots of possibilities here! >>>> best >>>> mg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message -- >>>> From: Jeff Kreines >>&
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Any advice on where to get a perfectone motor? I've checked ebay but not sure where else to look On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:59 PM Jon Behrens wrote: > Hi here is a thought, you might consider just buying a new motor all > together. Might be cheaper because there are tones of them out there. > > Jon > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 19, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Ethan Berry > wrote: > > You might see if Bernie O'Dougherty still works on NPR's. He has done work > on my NPR and ACL. > ber...@super16inc.com > Ethan Berry > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM > wrote: > >> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: OPEN CALL (Charles Chadwick) >>2. Eclair npr (mariah garnett) >>3. Re: Eclair npr (Jeff Kreines) >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Charles Chadwick >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:53:34 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] OPEN CALL >> Hi Ms baker, >> >> I have a longish short called gibber eidolon. It's about 20 min. Long. >> Would you be interested in previewing it? It's only played publicly once so >> far. Thx. >> >> -charles >> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 AM Nicole Baker wrote: >> >>> Hello frameworkers! >>> I am at the very early stages of assembling a program of experimental >>> shorts to be shown in an online screening. This will be a streaming event >>> and is possibly ongoing. Think of it like a cable access show for the >>> digital era. >>> I am opening a call for experimental submission from any genre! Shorts >>> are best for logistics sake (file size) but I'm happy to work with you if >>> you want to show something long form. >>> Pass the word along! Thanks. >>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson >>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >>> Pacific Northwest College of Art >>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >>> *www.magiklantern.com <http://www.magiklantern.com>* >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: mariah garnett >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:47:46 -0800 >> Subject: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >> Hello all, >> My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is >> anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record >> dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series >> and others... >> >> or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >> lots of possibilities here! >> best >> mg >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Jeff Kreines >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 22:00:12 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >> Try DuAll in NYC. Good luck. The cool thing about the NPR and ACL is that >> you can use C-Mount lenses. >> >> Jeff Kreines >> Kinetta >> j...@kinetta.com >> kinetta.com >> >> Sent from iPhone. >> >> > On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:48 PM, mariah garnett >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hello all, >> > My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is >> anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record >> dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series >> and others... >> > >> > or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >> > lots of possibilities here! >> > best >> > mg >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Hi here is a thought, you might consider just buying a new motor all together. Might be cheaper because there are tones of them out there. Jon Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 19, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Ethan Berry wrote: > > You might see if Bernie O'Dougherty still works on NPR's. He has done work on > my NPR and ACL. > ber...@super16inc.com > Ethan Berry > > > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM >> wrote: >> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: OPEN CALL (Charles Chadwick) >>2. Eclair npr (mariah garnett) >>3. Re: Eclair npr (Jeff Kreines) >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Charles Chadwick >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:53:34 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] OPEN CALL >> Hi Ms baker, >> >> I have a longish short called gibber eidolon. It's about 20 min. Long. Would >> you be interested in previewing it? It's only played publicly once so far. >> Thx. >> >> -charles >> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 AM Nicole Baker wrote: >>> Hello frameworkers! >>> I am at the very early stages of assembling a program of experimental >>> shorts to be shown in an online screening. This will be a streaming event >>> and is possibly ongoing. Think of it like a cable access show for the >>> digital era. >>> I am opening a call for experimental submission from any genre! Shorts are >>> best for logistics sake (file size) but I'm happy to work with you if you >>> want to show something long form. >>> Pass the word along! Thanks. >>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson >>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >>> Pacific Northwest College of Art >>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >>> www.magiklantern.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: mariah garnett >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:47:46 -0800 >> Subject: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >> Hello all, >> My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is anyone >> selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record dialog? I >> love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series and others... >> >> or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >> lots of possibilities here! >> best >> mg >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Jeff Kreines >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 22:00:12 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >> Try DuAll in NYC. Good luck. The cool thing about the NPR and ACL is that >> you can use C-Mount lenses. >> >> Jeff Kreines >> Kinetta >> j...@kinetta.com >> kinetta.com >> >> Sent from iPhone. >> >> > On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:48 PM, mariah garnett >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hello all, >> > My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is >> > anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record >> > dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series >> > and others... >> > >> > or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >> > lots of possibilities here! >> > best >> > mg >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Hi guys, Thanks for the advice... I've tested it with 2 separate batteries, one which was from a rental house so I'm pretty sure it's the motor, not the power source. I don't know how to check the fuse in the motor. I think it's an Aaton motor. I got it in 2012 and it's been running like a dream since then but I've never had it serviced before, so it's likely high time. I'll check out those recommendations in LA. thanks! On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:55 AM George, Sherman wrote: > I am late to this discussion but have you checked the power cable and the > fuses in the battery and the motor. If the fuse in the motor is blown then > the motor has real problems > Make sure the motor is getting power first. > Sherman > > > On Feb 19, 2020, at 7:56 AM, mariah garnett > wrote: > > > > Thanks Scott, > > It has a crystal sync motor. Does this mean I could just take it to an > analog camera store or repair shop in LA? That’s where I’m based and would > rather not have to ship it anywhere... > > > >> On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > >> > >> Which motor does it have? I am presuming the motor is the issue? > There > >> are probably more different motors available for the NPR than any other > >> camera made. If it's one of the crystal sync motors, the electronics on > >> them aren't hard to work on and most of what goes bad are electrolytic > >> capacitors. If it's a wild DC motor, before doing anything open up the > >> brush compartments and make sure the brushes are in good condition. > Always > >> keep spare brushes on hand. > >> --scott > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > Sherman George > sgeo...@ucsd.edu > 858-229-4368 > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Good advice. Occam’s Razor. Try it with the motor off the camera, in case the camera is seized up. Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com Sent from iPhone. > On Feb 19, 2020, at 1:55 PM, George, Sherman wrote: > > I am late to this discussion but have you checked the power cable and the > fuses in the battery and the motor. If the fuse in the motor is blown then > the motor has real problems > Make sure the motor is getting power first. > Sherman > >> On Feb 19, 2020, at 7:56 AM, mariah garnett wrote: >> >> Thanks Scott, >> It has a crystal sync motor. Does this mean I could just take it to an >> analog camera store or repair shop in LA? That’s where I’m based and would >> rather not have to ship it anywhere... >> On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: >>> >>> Which motor does it have? I am presuming the motor is the issue? There >>> are probably more different motors available for the NPR than any other >>> camera made. If it's one of the crystal sync motors, the electronics on >>> them aren't hard to work on and most of what goes bad are electrolytic >>> capacitors. If it's a wild DC motor, before doing anything open up the >>> brush compartments and make sure the brushes are in good condition. Always >>> keep spare brushes on hand. >>> --scott >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > Sherman George > sgeo...@ucsd.edu > 858-229-4368 > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
I am late to this discussion but have you checked the power cable and the fuses in the battery and the motor. If the fuse in the motor is blown then the motor has real problems Make sure the motor is getting power first. Sherman > On Feb 19, 2020, at 7:56 AM, mariah garnett wrote: > > Thanks Scott, > It has a crystal sync motor. Does this mean I could just take it to an analog > camera store or repair shop in LA? That’s where I’m based and would rather > not have to ship it anywhere... > >> On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: >> >> Which motor does it have? I am presuming the motor is the issue? There >> are probably more different motors available for the NPR than any other >> camera made. If it's one of the crystal sync motors, the electronics on >> them aren't hard to work on and most of what goes bad are electrolytic >> capacitors. If it's a wild DC motor, before doing anything open up the >> brush compartments and make sure the brushes are in good condition. Always >> keep spare brushes on hand. >> --scott >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Sherman George sgeo...@ucsd.edu 858-229-4368 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
If you’re in LA try Andree Martin: https://www.amcamera.com/about/ You might also see if Whitehouse AV will tackle it. Which crystal motor do you have? There were many for the NPR — KRYMO, BEALA, Perfectone, Aaton, and several conversions of DC motors like Hafflex. Some will be easier to repair than others, but the boards are probably pretty easy to work on compared to modern electronics. Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com Sent from iPhone. > On Feb 19, 2020, at 1:10 PM, 16mm Directory wrote: > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 7:57 AM mariah garnett >> wrote: >> Thanks Scott, >> It has a crystal sync motor. Does this mean I could just take it to an >> analog camera store or repair shop in LA? That’s where I’m based and would >> rather not have to ship it anywhere... > > > > Mariah, > > I definitely agree with Scott, the motor can be easily detached and serviced, > though a full CLA or overhaul is likely in order. I service > my camera on regular intervals, and never let it sit for too long without > running the motor, just to keep the mechanism lubricated. > > If you're in LA, I suggest trying Richard Bennett at Cinema Engineering > (http://www.cinemaengineering.com/). He can do some Eclair NPR > service, and likely has a source for parts. Also, when George retired and > Optical-Electro House shut down, Bob Allen, who used to work > at OEH with George (and has years of experience with Eclair) was continuing > to do service. It's been a few years since I had this conversation > with George, but here is the last contact I have for Bob Allen...323-732-0607 > or 310-918-9017. > > Last I checked with Alan Gordon and Birns & Sawyer, they no longer had folks > around who could perform this work. Otherwise, you have > options in the midwest. Mansung (SMS Chicago) was still doing some work in > retirement, and Visual Products does service and has a cache > of NPR parts. Paul Scaglione is/was the main VP tech with Eclair knowledge. > > Lastly, for motor service, try Andrew at AZ spectrum (NY). He serviced my NPR > Alcan motor a few years back, still works great. That says a > lot since nobody liked working on the Alcan motors, not even George at OEH. > > Like Scott mentioned, if it's another NPR motor > (http://www.tfgtransfer.com/motors.htm), besides the Alcan, these are easy > for most techs to > work on. > > Alain > > > > > > > >> >> > On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: >> > >> > Which motor does it have? I am presuming the motor is the issue? There >> > are probably more different motors available for the NPR than any other >> > camera made. If it's one of the crystal sync motors, the electronics on >> > them aren't hard to work on and most of what goes bad are electrolytic >> > capacitors. If it's a wild DC motor, before doing anything open up the >> > brush compartments and make sure the brushes are in good condition. Always >> > keep spare brushes on hand. >> > --scott >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > -- > > 16mm Directory / 40 Frames > Portland, Oregon USA > > www.16mmdirectory.org > www.40frames.org > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 7:57 AM mariah garnett wrote: > Thanks Scott, > It has a crystal sync motor. Does this mean I could just take it to an > analog camera store or repair shop in LA? That’s where I’m based and would > rather not have to ship it anywhere... > Mariah, I definitely agree with Scott, the motor can be easily detached and serviced, though a full CLA or overhaul is likely in order. I service my camera on regular intervals, and never let it sit for too long without running the motor, just to keep the mechanism lubricated. If you're in LA, I suggest trying Richard Bennett at Cinema Engineering ( http://www.cinemaengineering.com/). He can do some Eclair NPR service, and likely has a source for parts. Also, when George retired and Optical-Electro House shut down, Bob Allen, who used to work at OEH with George (and has years of experience with Eclair) was continuing to do service. It's been a few years since I had this conversation with George, but here is the last contact I have for Bob Allen...323-732-0607 or 310-918-9017. Last I checked with Alan Gordon and Birns & Sawyer, they no longer had folks around who could perform this work. Otherwise, you have options in the midwest. Mansung (SMS Chicago) was still doing some work in retirement, and Visual Products does service and has a cache of NPR parts. Paul Scaglione is/was the main VP tech with Eclair knowledge. Lastly, for motor service, try Andrew at AZ spectrum (NY). He serviced my NPR Alcan motor a few years back, still works great. That says a lot since nobody liked working on the Alcan motors, not even George at OEH. Like Scott mentioned, if it's another NPR motor ( http://www.tfgtransfer.com/motors.htm), besides the Alcan, these are easy for most techs to work on. Alain > > > On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > > > > Which motor does it have? I am presuming the motor is the issue? There > > are probably more different motors available for the NPR than any other > > camera made. If it's one of the crystal sync motors, the electronics on > > them aren't hard to work on and most of what goes bad are electrolytic > > capacitors. If it's a wild DC motor, before doing anything open up the > > brush compartments and make sure the brushes are in good condition. > Always > > keep spare brushes on hand. > > --scott > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- 16mm Directory / 40 Frames Portland, Oregon USA www.16mmdirectory.org www.40frames.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
If the problem is the motor, pull the motor and ship it to DuAll or someone that works on those. There is no reason to ship the whole camera if there is a motor issue. (That said, if it's been a decade since the camera has had a PM, it might be a good idea to ship it in for a PM as well). The electronics in those motors aren't that hard to work on; anybody that does camera electronics should be okay with it. It's not like a GSMO or something full of weird proprietary parts. However, it's likely to be PM time too. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Thanks Scott, It has a crystal sync motor. Does this mean I could just take it to an analog camera store or repair shop in LA? That’s where I’m based and would rather not have to ship it anywhere... > On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > > Which motor does it have? I am presuming the motor is the issue? There > are probably more different motors available for the NPR than any other > camera made. If it's one of the crystal sync motors, the electronics on > them aren't hard to work on and most of what goes bad are electrolytic > capacitors. If it's a wild DC motor, before doing anything open up the > brush compartments and make sure the brushes are in good condition. Always > keep spare brushes on hand. > --scott > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Which motor does it have? I am presuming the motor is the issue? There are probably more different motors available for the NPR than any other camera made. If it's one of the crystal sync motors, the electronics on them aren't hard to work on and most of what goes bad are electrolytic capacitors. If it's a wild DC motor, before doing anything open up the brush compartments and make sure the brushes are in good condition. Always keep spare brushes on hand. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Not my choice of repair people... Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com Sent from iPhone. > On Feb 19, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Ethan Berry wrote: > > > You might see if Bernie O'Dougherty still works on NPR's. He has done work on > my NPR and ACL. > ber...@super16inc.com > Ethan Berry > > > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM >> wrote: >> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: OPEN CALL (Charles Chadwick) >>2. Eclair npr (mariah garnett) >>3. Re: Eclair npr (Jeff Kreines) >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Charles Chadwick >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:53:34 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] OPEN CALL >> Hi Ms baker, >> >> I have a longish short called gibber eidolon. It's about 20 min. Long. Would >> you be interested in previewing it? It's only played publicly once so far. >> Thx. >> >> -charles >> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 AM Nicole Baker wrote: >>> Hello frameworkers! >>> I am at the very early stages of assembling a program of experimental >>> shorts to be shown in an online screening. This will be a streaming event >>> and is possibly ongoing. Think of it like a cable access show for the >>> digital era. >>> I am opening a call for experimental submission from any genre! Shorts are >>> best for logistics sake (file size) but I'm happy to work with you if you >>> want to show something long form. >>> Pass the word along! Thanks. >>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson >>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >>> Pacific Northwest College of Art >>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >>> www.magiklantern.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: mariah garnett >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:47:46 -0800 >> Subject: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >> Hello all, >> My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is anyone >> selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record dialog? I >> love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series and others... >> >> or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >> lots of possibilities here! >> best >> mg >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Jeff Kreines >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 22:00:12 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eclair npr >> Try DuAll in NYC. Good luck. The cool thing about the NPR and ACL is that >> you can use C-Mount lenses. >> >> Jeff Kreines >> Kinetta >> j...@kinetta.com >> kinetta.com >> >> Sent from iPhone. >> >> > On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:48 PM, mariah garnett >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hello all, >> > My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is >> > anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record >> > dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series >> > and others... >> > >> > or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? >> > lots of possibilities here! >> > best >> > mg >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Eclair NPR
You might see if Bernie O'Dougherty still works on NPR's. He has done work on my NPR and ACL. ber...@super16inc.com Ethan Berry On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM wrote: > Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to > frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: OPEN CALL (Charles Chadwick) >2. Eclair npr (mariah garnett) >3. Re: Eclair npr (Jeff Kreines) > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Charles Chadwick > To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:53:34 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] OPEN CALL > Hi Ms baker, > > I have a longish short called gibber eidolon. It's about 20 min. Long. > Would you be interested in previewing it? It's only played publicly once so > far. Thx. > > -charles > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 AM Nicole Baker wrote: > >> Hello frameworkers! >> I am at the very early stages of assembling a program of experimental >> shorts to be shown in an online screening. This will be a streaming event >> and is possibly ongoing. Think of it like a cable access show for the >> digital era. >> I am opening a call for experimental submission from any genre! Shorts >> are best for logistics sake (file size) but I'm happy to work with you if >> you want to show something long form. >> Pass the word along! Thanks. >> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson >> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >> Pacific Northwest College of Art >> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >> *www.magiklantern.com <http://www.magiklantern.com>* >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: mariah garnett > To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:47:46 -0800 > Subject: [Frameworks] Eclair npr > Hello all, > My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is > anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record > dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series > and others... > > or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? > lots of possibilities here! > best > mg > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Jeff Kreines > To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 22:00:12 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eclair npr > Try DuAll in NYC. Good luck. The cool thing about the NPR and ACL is that > you can use C-Mount lenses. > > Jeff Kreines > Kinetta > j...@kinetta.com > kinetta.com > > Sent from iPhone. > > > On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:48 PM, mariah garnett > wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is > anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record > dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series > and others... > > > > or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? > > lots of possibilities here! > > best > > mg > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair npr
Try DuAll in NYC. Good luck. The cool thing about the NPR and ACL is that you can use C-Mount lenses. Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com Sent from iPhone. > On Feb 18, 2020, at 7:48 PM, mariah garnett wrote: > > > Hello all, > My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is anyone > selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record dialog? I > love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series and others... > > or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? > lots of possibilities here! > best > mg > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Eclair npr
Hello all, My eclair motor seems to have died. Anyone know how to fix it? Or, is anyone selling a 16mm camera with a crystal sync motor that can record dialog? I love the NPR/Angenieux lens combo but am open to arri sr series and others... or does anyone want to buy a broken eclair npr? lots of possibilities here! best mg ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] ECLAIR NPR regular 16mm and OʼConner 2060 head
dear frame workers. I am trying to figure out if you can use a ECLAIR NPR regular 16mm with a OʼConnor 2060 head. Unfortunately are the camera and the head currently in a two different countries, myself in a third. can anyone tell me for certain if this is possible or not? we are our own screws (standard, one is 5mm Ø ca. 12 high, one is 9mm Ø and 14mm high) anyone? best from leipzig, leif magne___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Cancel Cancel! There was a guy in Los Angeles who repairs motors.. Duall claims to repair but they actually just steal your money. I spent a year and $1200 trying to get the motor repaired/ writing to forums etc., shipping the camera to Los Angeles, working with Duall in NYC.. In the end, I ended up with a stolen motor (so I was told) that squeaked and a worthless camera. When Eclair NPR camera were built, they did not release the specs for the motor or circuitry board. There are people who can cobble them together- but after a year, I was unable to locate an honest mechanic. It is a shame- the cameras are affordable and quite nice (when they work). Good Luck Bill On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:35 AM, mariah garnett mariah.garn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone - i just bought an eclair NPR off ebay and was told after the fact that the motor is broken.The seller's offering to knock the price down to $370 or let me cancel the sale. Anyone know how much an NPR motor would cost to repair or replace? or know any good 16mm camera repair places that work for relatively cheap in the LA area (or who have free shipping)? all advice appreciated... -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR
more or less how much is Eclair Npr whit accesories? Honest price 2012/3/2 william santen williamsan...@gmail.com Cancel Cancel! There was a guy in Los Angeles who repairs motors.. Duall claims to repair but they actually just steal your money. I spent a year and $1200 trying to get the motor repaired/ writing to forums etc., shipping the camera to Los Angeles, working with Duall in NYC.. In the end, I ended up with a stolen motor (so I was told) that squeaked and a worthless camera. When Eclair NPR camera were built, they did not release the specs for the motor or circuitry board. There are people who can cobble them together- but after a year, I was unable to locate an honest mechanic. It is a shame- the cameras are affordable and quite nice (when they work). Good Luck Bill On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:35 AM, mariah garnett mariah.garn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone - i just bought an eclair NPR off ebay and was told after the fact that the motor is broken.The seller's offering to knock the price down to $370 or let me cancel the sale. Anyone know how much an NPR motor would cost to repair or replace? or know any good 16mm camera repair places that work for relatively cheap in the LA area (or who have free shipping)? all advice appreciated... -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eclair NPR (motor and service)
Mariah, I would cancel the sale, but I guess it depends on what you paid and what is included in the package, and whether you plan to put more money into the package. In general, any used camera should be fully serviced to prevent any damage to internal parts and make certain everything is in alignment. Motor repairs can be expensive, depending on the damage and which motor it is. There were something like 15 different motors and modified motors made for the NPR. And depending on which motor it is, it might not be worth repairing. I would guess $300-1000 for a repair, a $1000 or $750 being the cost to replace it if it's considered dead by a tech. On of the best companies for motor repairs is AZ Spectrum in Maspeth, NY (Queens). http://www.az-spectrum.com/ There is also... • Visual Products in Wellington, OH • Man-sung (of SMS) is still doing repairs out of his home in Chicago In Los Angeles... You might try George Zorzoli, he said he would still do repairs for old customers, however you might need to inquire if you've not worked with George before... George does rebuilds of the old Ciblo motor and can do crystal conversions for non-crystal motors. His prices are generally pretty good. Also in LA... Richard Bennett at Cinema Engineering, if he cannot do it, he likely knows someone who can, he'll outsource to other technicians for items he does not specialize in Alan Gordon has parts but no service I would probably pass on this camera, there are lots of NPR cameras out there, and you might be better to buy from Visual Products or somewhere that can guarantee service As far as Du-All is concerned, I've never used them. Since George Gal is no longer running the company, I have only heard bad things about Du-All. Good luck, it's a great camera if you find a good one and get it serviced. Alain On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:35 PM, mariah garnett mariah.garn...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone - i just bought an eclair NPR off ebay and was told after the fact that the motor is broken.The seller's offering to knock the price down to $370 or let me cancel the sale. Anyone know how much an NPR motor would cost to repair or replace? or know any good 16mm camera repair places that work for relatively cheap in the LA area (or who have free shipping)? all advice appreciated... -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- 40 FRAMES Alain LeTourneau Pam Minty 40 FRAMES 5232 North Williams Avenue Portland, Oregon 97217 USA +1 503 231 6548 www.40frames.org www.16mmdirectory.org www.emptyquarterfilm.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Eclair NPR
Hello everyone - i just bought an eclair NPR off ebay and was told after the fact that the motor is broken.The seller's offering to knock the price down to $370 or let me cancel the sale. Anyone know how much an NPR motor would cost to repair or replace? or know any good 16mm camera repair places that work for relatively cheap in the LA area (or who have free shipping)? all advice appreciated... -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
