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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound Structural film

2015-02-13 Thread Colinet André

Maybe Norman McLaren, Peter kubelka ??

From: Gawthrop, Rob 
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:09 PM
To: Albert Alcoz ; Experimental Film Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound  Structural film

Guy Sherwin's  DVD collection of 'Optical Sound Films'  from Lux

Phase Loop (1971), Sound Shapes (1972), Cycles 1(1972/1977), Newsprint (1972), 
At the Academy (1974), Soundtrack (1977), Musical Stairs (1977), Railings 
(1977), Night Train (1979), Interval (1974), Interval #2 (1974/2007), Notes 
(1979), Notes #2 (1979/2007), Optical Sound (2007), Spirals (1974), Cross 
Section #2 (1997/2007).

Rob

From: Albert Alcoz 
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Date: Wednesday, 11 February 2015 08:46
To: "frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com" 
Subject: [Frameworks] Optical sound – Structural film

Hello,

Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes directly 
from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?

Kurt Kren drew a line with ink in his film Trees of Autumn (1960) and Guy 
Sherwin shot pictures on the variable area of the soundtrack. Those films were 
collected on the Optical Sound Films (1971-2007) DVD.

I thought the soundtrack of Roh Film (1968) by Birgit & Wilhelm Hein was done 
directly from the collage materials attached on the surface of the emulsion but 
it is not. It was done afterwards, as an autonomous noise piece by Christian 
Michelis. 

I'm thinking about films like Dynamo Dresden (1971) by Lis Rhodes or Soundtrack 
(1969) by Barry Spinello, but they are more abstract animation pieces following 
the visual music tradition than the structural or systemic patterns.

Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Thank you very much,

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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

2015-02-12 Thread Albert Alcoz

Thank you all very much for those answers, especially Pip Chodorov for 
suggesting that awesome film by Steve Farrer.
There's a PhD dissertation by Michel Puetz named "Variable Area: Hearing and 
Seeing Sound" where she analyses some of this issues with films like those 
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 El Jueves 12 de febrero de 2015 1:14, Douglas  
escribió:
   

 Not from the 60s or 70s but Rock Ross has a film "Psycho Porpoise" that fits 
the bill.
https://www.fandor.com/films/psycho_porpoise


dk




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Synchromy by Norman McLaren is a great example.  He photographed printed cards 
that went both on the sound space and the visual space of the film.  And check 
out all the series of tests he made for similar experiments.  You can find them 
in the DVD box set of his work.

For more recent work:
-Apollo by Tom Nishikawa is great.  He shoots high-contrast pictures on 16mm by 
using a 35mm camera to cover the whole 16mm strip with images.  He has some 
other pinhole films that work on a similar dynamic.

-TB TX Dance by Roger Bebee is also a great piece that ironically synchs visual 
sound with image.


To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:10:25 -0500
From: nicky.ham...@talktalk.net
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

Lis Rhodes: Light Music for two projectors facing each other. It's very intense!

Nicky.
 
 
 
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From: Amanda Christie 
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Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:00
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

Norman McLaren made several films by animating directly onto the optical 
track.There is even a short documentary of him doing this in the film called 
"Pen Point Percussion" where they film him working on a film called "Dots"You 
can view his work online on the National Film Board website: 
https://www.nfb.ca/explore-all-directors/Norman-McLaren/
Is there a reason that you're keeping it to the 60s and 70s?
I can think of other artists, such Richard Reeves, as well as myself, who have 
done work directly on optical tracks in the last 20 years.
adc



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On 2015-02-11, at 7:02 AM, Peter Mudie wrote:

Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the 
LFMC.Peter(Perth)
From:  Pip Chodorov 
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Date:  Wednesday, 11 February 2015 6:31 pm
To:  Albert Alcoz , Experimental Film Discussion List 

Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer 
(1976)http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings

At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
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from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound – Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread C Keefer

Though earlier than your time period, Oskar Fischinger's Ornament Sound
experiments (c. 1932). On CVM's VOD channel on Vimeo:
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/26951

More recently, possibly some of Devon Damonte's work, though it's not 60s
or 70s.

best regards,
Cindy Keefer
Center for Visual Music (CVM)
www.centerforvisualmusic.org
CVM email = cvmaccess at gmail.com


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> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:46:09 + (UTC)
> Subject: [Frameworks] Optical sound – Structural film
> Hello,
>
> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract
> films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes
> directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the
> celluloid?
>
> Kurt Kren drew a line with ink in his film *Trees of Autumn* (1960) and
> Guy Sherwin shot pictures on the variable area of the soundtrack. Those
> films were collected on the *Optical Sound Films *(1971-2007) DVD.
>
> I thought the soundtrack of *Roh Film* (1968) by Birgit & Wilhelm Hein
> was done directly from the collage materials attached on the surface of the
> emulsion but it is not. It was done afterwards, as an autonomous noise
> piece by Christian Michelis.
>
> I'm thinking about films like *Dynamo Dresden* (1971) by Lis Rhodes or
> *Soundtrack* (1969) by Barry Spinello, but they are more abstract
> animation pieces following the visual music tradition than the structural
> or systemic patterns.
>
> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Albert Alcoz
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> http://albertalcoz.com/ 
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread Douglas

Not from the 60s or 70s but Rock Ross has a film "Psycho Porpoise" that fits 
the bill.

https://www.fandor.com/films/psycho_porpoise


dk




> On Feb 11, 2015, at 2:14 PM, "Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Synchromy by Norman McLaren is a great example.  He photographed printed 
> cards that went both on the sound space and the visual space of the film.  
> And check out all the series of tests he made for similar experiments.  You 
> can find them in the DVD box set of his work.
> 
> For more recent work:
> -Apollo by Tom Nishikawa is great.  He shoots high-contrast pictures on 16mm 
> by using a 35mm camera to cover the whole 16mm strip with images.  He has 
> some other pinhole films that work on a similar dynamic.
> 
> -TB TX Dance by Roger Bebee is also a great piece that ironically synchs 
> visual sound with image.
> 
> 
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:10:25 -0500
> From: nicky.ham...@talktalk.net
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film
> 
> Lis Rhodes: Light Music for two projectors facing each other. It's very 
> intense!
> 
> Nicky.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Amanda Christie 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:00
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film
> 
> Norman McLaren made several films by animating directly onto the optical 
> track.
> There is even a short documentary of him doing this in the film called "Pen 
> Point Percussion" where they film him working on a film called "Dots"
> You can view his work online on the National Film Board website: 
> https://www.nfb.ca/explore-all-directors/Norman-McLaren/
> 
> Is there a reason that you're keeping it to the 60s and 70s?
> 
> I can think of other artists, such Richard Reeves, as well as myself, who 
> have done work directly on optical tracks in the last 20 years.
> 
> adc
> 
> 
> 
> Amanda Dawn Christie
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> 506-871-2062
> www.amandadawnchristie.ca
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> On 2015-02-11, at 7:02 AM, Peter Mudie wrote:
> 
> Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the LFMC.
> Peter
> (Perth)
> 
> From: Pip Chodorov 
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Date: Wednesday, 11 February 2015 6:31 pm
> To: Albert Alcoz , Experimental Film Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film
> 
> There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
> http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings
> 
> 
> At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
> films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes 
> directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the 
> celluloid?
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza

Synchromy by Norman McLaren is a great example.  He photographed printed cards 
that went both on the sound space and the visual space of the film.  And check 
out all the series of tests he made for similar experiments.  You can find them 
in the DVD box set of his work.

For more recent work:
-Apollo by Tom Nishikawa is great.  He shoots high-contrast pictures on 16mm by 
using a 35mm camera to cover the whole 16mm strip with images.  He has some 
other pinhole films that work on a similar dynamic.

-TB TX Dance by Roger Bebee is also a great piece that ironically synchs visual 
sound with image.


To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:10:25 -0500
From: nicky.ham...@talktalk.net
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

Lis Rhodes: Light Music for two projectors facing each other. It's very intense!



Nicky.



 






 






 






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Norman McLaren made several films by animating directly onto the optical track.

There is even a short documentary of him doing this in the film called "Pen 
Point Percussion" where they film him working on a film called "Dots"



You can view his work online on the National Film Board website: 
https://www.nfb.ca/explore-all-directors/Norman-McLaren/










Is there a reason that you're keeping it to the 60s and 70s?










I can think of other artists, such Richard Reeves, as well as myself, who have 
done work directly on optical tracks in the last 20 years.










adc


































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Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the LFMC.



Peter



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From:  Pip Chodorov 


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Date:  Wednesday, 11 February 2015 6:31 pm


To:  Albert Alcoz , Experimental Film Discussion List 



Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

















There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)



http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings

















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Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
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from the graphic treatment on the
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread nicky . hamlyn

Lis Rhodes: Light Music for two projectors facing each other. It's very intense!

Nicky.

 

 

 

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From: Amanda Christie 
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Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:00
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film


Norman McLaren made several films by animating directly onto the optical track.
There is even a short documentary of him doing this in the film called "Pen 
Point Percussion" where they film him working on a film called "Dots"
You can view his work online on the National Film Board website: 
https://www.nfb.ca/explore-all-directors/Norman-McLaren/


Is there a reason that you're keeping it to the 60s and 70s?


I can think of other artists, such Richard Reeves, as well as myself, who have 
done work directly on optical tracks in the last 20 years.


adc









Amanda Dawn Christie

506-871-2062
www.amandadawnchristie.ca
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Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the LFMC.
Peter
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From:  Pip Chodorov 
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Date:  Wednesday, 11 February 2015 6:31 pm
To:  Albert Alcoz , Experimental Film Discussion List 

Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film




There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings




At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread Amanda Christie

Norman McLaren made several films by animating directly onto the optical track.
There is even a short documentary of him doing this in the film called "Pen 
Point Percussion" where they film him working on a film called "Dots"
You can view his work online on the National Film Board website: 
https://www.nfb.ca/explore-all-directors/Norman-McLaren/

Is there a reason that you're keeping it to the 60s and 70s?

I can think of other artists, such Richard Reeves, as well as myself, who have 
done work directly on optical tracks in the last 20 years.

adc

Amanda Dawn Christie

506-871-2062
www.amandadawnchristie.ca
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On 2015-02-11, at 7:02 AM, Peter Mudie wrote:

> Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the LFMC.
> Peter
> (Perth)
> 
> From: Pip Chodorov 
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Date: Wednesday, 11 February 2015 6:31 pm
> To: Albert Alcoz , Experimental Film Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film
> 
> There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
> http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings
> 
> 
> At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
>> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
>> films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes 
>> directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the 
>> celluloid?
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound – Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread _blank

I’m really interested on that topic also, but I’m sure that you know more films 
than me. Lately I found this, but you probably know all these films…

http://otherfilm.org/optical-sound/ <http://otherfilm.org/optical-sound/>

A couple of weeks ago I spend one afternoon looking for optical sound films at 
vimeo and I found several interesting pieces, but most of them are from the 
80s, 90s or even more recent.

(Ø)
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www.null66913.net
www.mediateletipos.net

> De: Albert Alcoz mailto:albertalc...@yahoo.es>>
> Para: "frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
> <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>"  <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> Fecha: 11 de febrero de 2015, 9:46:09 CET
> Responder a: Albert Alcoz  <mailto:albertalc...@yahoo.es>>
> Asunto: [Frameworks] Optical sound – Structural film
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
> films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes 
> directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the 
> celluloid?
> 
> Kurt Kren drew a line with ink in his film Trees of Autumn (1960) and Guy 
> Sherwin shot pictures on the variable area of the soundtrack. Those films 
> were collected on the Optical Sound Films (1971-2007) DVD.
> 
> I thought the soundtrack of Roh Film (1968) by Birgit & Wilhelm Hein was done 
> directly from the collage materials attached on the surface of the emulsion 
> but it is not. It was done afterwards, as an autonomous noise piece by 
> Christian Michelis. 
> 
> I'm thinking about films like Dynamo Dresden (1971) by Lis Rhodes or 
> Soundtrack (1969) by Barry Spinello, but they are more abstract animation 
> pieces following the visual music tradition than the structural or systemic 
> patterns.
> 
> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you very much,
> 
> Albert Alcoz
> -- 
> http://visionaryfilm.net/ <http://www.visionaryfilm.net/>
> http://albertalcoz.com/ <http://www.albertalcoz.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> De: Pip Chodorov mailto:framewo...@re-voir.com>>
> Para: Albert Alcoz mailto:albertalc...@yahoo.es>>, 
> Experimental Film Discussion List  <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> Fecha: 11 de febrero de 2015, 11:31:45 CET
> Asunto: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film
> 
> 
> There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
> http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings 
> <http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings>
> 
> 
> At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
>> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
>> films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes 
>> directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the 
>> celluloid?
> 
> 
> 
> De: Peter Mudie mailto:peter.mu...@uwa.edu.au>>
> Para: Experimental Film Discussion List  <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> Fecha: 11 de febrero de 2015, 12:02:09 CET
> Asunto: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film
> 
> 
> Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the LFMC.
> Peter
> (Perth)
> 
> From: Pip Chodorov mailto:framewo...@re-voir.com>>
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List  <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> Date: Wednesday, 11 February 2015 6:31 pm
> To: Albert Alcoz mailto:albertalc...@yahoo.es>>, 
> Experimental Film Discussion List  <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film
> 
> There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
> http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings 
> <http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings>
> 
> 
> At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
>> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
>> films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes 
>> directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the 
>> celluloid?
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread Gawthrop, Rob

Guy Sherwin's  DVD collection of 'Optical Sound Films'  from Lux

Phase Loop (1971), Sound Shapes (1972), Cycles 1(1972/1977), Newsprint (1972), 
At the Academy (1974), Soundtrack (1977), Musical Stairs (1977), Railings 
(1977), Night Train (1979), Interval (1974), Interval #2 (1974/2007), Notes 
(1979), Notes #2 (1979/2007), Optical Sound (2007), Spirals (1974), Cross 
Section #2 (1997/2007).

Rob

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Date: Wednesday, 11 February 2015 08:46
To: "frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com" 
mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
Subject: [Frameworks] Optical sound – Structural film

Hello,

Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes directly 
from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?

Kurt Kren drew a line with ink in his film Trees of Autumn (1960) and Guy 
Sherwin shot pictures on the variable area of the soundtrack. Those films were 
collected on the Optical Sound Films (1971-2007) DVD.

I thought the soundtrack of Roh Film (1968) by Birgit & Wilhelm Hein was done 
directly from the collage materials attached on the surface of the emulsion but 
it is not. It was done afterwards, as an autonomous noise piece by Christian 
Michelis.

I'm thinking about films like Dynamo Dresden (1971) by Lis Rhodes or Soundtrack 
(1969) by Barry Spinello, but they are more abstract animation pieces following 
the visual music tradition than the structural or systemic patterns.

Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Thank you very much,

Albert Alcoz
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread Peter Mudie

Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the LFMC.
Peter
(Perth)

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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings

At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes directly 
from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

2015-02-11 Thread Pip Chodorov


There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings


At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or 
minimal/abstract films from the sixties or seventies where the sound 
of the film comes directly from the graphic treatment on the optical 
sound area of the celluloid?___
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