Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-03 Thread Steven Gladstone
Way back when I was in college, we heard about this practice, and we were told if you are going to have nudity, or stronger or offensive material - make sure you shot 30 seconds of warm fuzzy playful kittens at the head of the roll. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-03 Thread Carlileb
In a message dated 9/3/2011 10:12:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jawood...@yahoo.ca writes: So were there certain porn friendly labs that were used or were staff bribed? I've seen stag films that look to be from the 1930s and there was a time when porno's were shot under the auspices

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-03 Thread John Woods
>All labs had content policies like this until about 30-35 years ago. Yale's the only one that's kept theirs.  So were there certain porn friendly labs that were used or were staff bribed? I've seen stag films that look to be from the 1930s and there was a time when porno's were shot under the

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-02 Thread mike rice
Hey Tyler - I usually use Dwayne's in Kansas b/c they are friendly and have a quick turn around time, not to mention I think they do pretty good work. Also, if you don't mind paying a bit more for shipping, Andec in Berlin does the best work I have seen yet (it ends up being the same shipping cost

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Steven Gladstone
Way back when in college, we were warned that some labs behaved like this, and it was suggested that if shooting material the lab might not like, to shoot 10 seconds or so of something more acceptable, like cute puppies, before filming the "hard" stuff. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinem

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez
Actually there was a lab on the East Coast in Georgia or somewhere called Chambless that also maintained the same policies as late as the early 90s, also for religious reasons. Don't know if they are still in operation. enjoy today... Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez Multimedia Artist solislandmedi

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Carlileb
In a message dated 9/1/2011 4:22:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jihalp...@yahoo.com writes: And, to second what Chris K said earlier, I've heard the same thing: this policy is a reaction to their location in the heart of the pornography industry. No, it's because they are very devou

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Buck Bito
Thanks for the response, I can see how this policy can be instituted for film to video or film printing services where a tech has to pour over every frame, but I've never understood why or even how it could apply to processing. The only thing I could come up with is that they paid a strange uncle t

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Jason Halprin
However problematic Yale's policy may seem, I've probably sent them 20-30 rolls over the years, and have never had any sort of problem. If you're content is of the ordinary-vanilla variety, they do good work. If you do feature nudity or violence, look elsewhere. And, to second what Chris K said

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez
Yes, i stopped using their services years ago when they refused to print some footage that contained an adult semi-nude female swimming in the ocean. their processing and printing services were no better or worse than any other, as i recall (and this was easily 12-15 years ago when there were s

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Buck Bito
I've always thought of this as a sort of urban legend. Has anyone here actually personally experienced any problems with having their film processed by Yale? -I'm talking lab services here, not film to video services. --Curious, ---Buck Bito vtc-sf.com On Thu, September 1, 2011 3:07 pm, Ekrem Ser

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Ekrem Serdar
i like the part about the occultic their whole policy sounds more like they don't want to deal with some kind of stereotypical idea of "underground film" On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:02 PM, wrote: > ** > In a message dated 9/1/2011 2:25:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > ekremser...@gmail.com writes

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Carlileb
In a message dated 9/1/2011 2:25:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ekremser...@gmail.com writes: or in any way extremely offensive to us. Besides its basic ridiculousness, this is the part of Yale's policy that is so problematic. Like, what does that mean specifically? Warning: Don't

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Chris Kennedy
A friend of mine suggested that the main reason for this is because Yale's right smack in middle of the valley and this policy was partly a way to not have to work with the porn industry. On 9/1/11 5:24 PM, Ekrem Serdar wrote: > still on their site :

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Ekrem Serdar
still on their site : *SUBJECT MATERIAL POLICY* We realize that the artist has full and total choice of expression. However, we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. As a policy, we do not and will not process, print, repair, or transfer any film

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Brook Hinton
Is Yale still run by those censorship-happy folk from back in the day? If so be careful what you send them. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Buck Bito wrote: > Hi Tyler, > Yale does good lab work for a buck less than Spectra (15 vs 14) and > Dwayne's (12) is about 20% less for Ekta. > Yale: > ht

Re: [Frameworks] Today's Super-8 Services

2011-09-01 Thread Buck Bito
Hi Tyler, Yale does good lab work for a buck less than Spectra (15 vs 14) and Dwayne's (12) is about 20% less for Ekta. Yale: http://www.yalefilmandvideo.com/filmprocessing8mm.php Dwayne's: http://www.dwaynesphoto.com/newsite2006/movies-ektachrome.html I'm sorry to say that there are no more labs