Re: [free-software-melb] Keysigning party

2013-08-11 Thread Adam Bolte
On 09/08/13 12:53, Fraser Tweedale wrote:
 I wrote a key submission application that you might find useful.
 It's pretty spartan, but I've use it for keysigning parties at
 linux.conf.au and other conferences and it does the job.
 
 https://github.com/frasertweedale/pgpsubmit

Looks neat. I'll look into it more closely if I have time (probably not
before this months meet-up though).


 Oh and I should also mention https://github.com/frasertweedale/gcaff
 which is a friendlier alternative to caff for signing multiple keys.
 Even has a GUI!

I attempted to open some of the Debian keyrings just to see what the GUI
looked like, but it would always fail with an uncaught exception. Didn't
spend too much time on it, but I like the idea.


 On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 12:20:05PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
 I think we will use some middle ground between the “Sassaman”
 URL:http://keysigning.org/methods/sassaman-efficient and “Ad hoc”
 URL:http://keysigning.org/methods/adhoc. Specifically, I think the
 party will be small enough to use Ad hoc, but the central point of
 contact to co-ordinate the participating keys will be helpful.

I'm expecting a number of people will not have any GnuPG experience, so
am intending to provide a small presentation on the subject. If people
bring laptops, they might create decide to create keys on the spot. I
know this isn't ideal, but I think it's important to prioritise helping
people get started.

As the meet-up is only a few days away, it's probably not reasonable to
expect everyone will have time to send me keys prior to the event. Happy
to do this if people want, but I agree with your assessment that leaning
towards ad hoc might be the way to go. Depending on how we go for time,
how many people turn up (and interest levels), I'd even be happy to
continue keysigning while waiting on dinner - if there are no
objections, anyway.

Cheers,
Adam




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Re: [free-software-melb] Keysigning party

2013-08-11 Thread Ben Finney
Adam Bolte abo...@systemsaviour.com
writes:

 As the meet-up is only a few days away, it's probably not reasonable
 to expect everyone will have time to send me keys prior to the event.
 Happy to do this if people want, but I agree with your assessment that
 leaning towards ad hoc might be the way to go. Depending on how we go
 for time, how many people turn up (and interest levels), I'd even be
 happy to continue keysigning while waiting on dinner - if there are no
 objections, anyway.

It's also worth noting that a keysigning party has a misleading name:
The purpose of the party is not to sign keys at the party :-)

Rather, the purpose of the keysigning party is to organise everyone to
perfom all the necessary prior steps to key signing. Some (create one's
own keypair, send the public key to a network or central coordinator,
print out copies of fingerprints) are done before the party where
feasible, and some (meet the person, verify photo ID, check their
fingerprint with them) need person-to-person interaction so are done at
the party.

The actual signing of keys is usually done at one's leisure *after* the
party.

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Re: [free-software-melb] Keysigning party

2013-08-11 Thread Adam Bolte
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:02:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
 Adam Bolte abo...@systemsaviour.com
 writes:
 
  As the meet-up is only a few days away, it's probably not reasonable
  to expect everyone will have time to send me keys prior to the event.
  Happy to do this if people want, but I agree with your assessment that
  leaning towards ad hoc might be the way to go. Depending on how we go
  for time, how many people turn up (and interest levels), I'd even be
  happy to continue keysigning while waiting on dinner - if there are no
  objections, anyway.
 
 It's also worth noting that a keysigning party has a misleading name:
 The purpose of the party is not to sign keys at the party :-)

Excellent point.


 The actual signing of keys is usually done at one's leisure *after* the
 party.

That's true, although I'll be prepared to walk first timers through it
(not that there's much to it anyway).

So if anyone would like to send me their keys before Wednesday night,
I can make the key list available at that time - either via a
temporary URL which I'll post here, or (if anyone requests it)
e-mailing people back directly.


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[free-software-melb] Keysigning party

2013-08-08 Thread Ben Finney
Howdy all,

We have been discussing the idea of regular GPG keysigning parties for
our group.

A keysigning party is an opportunity to efficiently use a gathering of
people to perform the necessary steps in verifying the identity of GPG
key holders URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party.

There is a good site URL:http://keysigning.org/ which is a repository
of information on what a keysigning party is and, importantly, what
people need to know in order to prepare and participate.

I think we will use some middle ground between the “Sassaman”
URL:http://keysigning.org/methods/sassaman-efficient and “Ad hoc”
URL:http://keysigning.org/methods/adhoc. Specifically, I think the
party will be small enough to use Ad hoc, but the central point of
contact to co-ordinate the participating keys will be helpful.

Adam Bolte has offered to give more information and co-ordinate, but I'm
happy to answer questions here too.

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