Hi,
I'm working on adding some more power management logging support to
freebsd-head so we can start to get a better grip on sleep/wakeup
occurances. That should help us start to figure out where the power
consumption is going.
But on that EEEPC 900, just make sure you've set dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest
Hi, before I go any farther, I just want to point out that I currently can
only really send emails from my phone because Comcast are jerks. So I'm
Hoping that basically this email will be displayed properly. I'm using
AquaMail, which seems to work pretty well but I haven't been active on
these
There is no such thing as a desktop market for *BSD or Linux. There
never has been and there never will be.
Oh come on now, it depends on a couple of things, and I wouldn't go that
far.
I've got a lot of family members that know next to nothing about
computers,
and I got tired of
@freebsd.org; hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Leaving the Desktop Market
There is no such thing as a desktop market for *BSD or Linux.
There never has been and there never will be.
Oh come on now, it depends on a couple of things, and I wouldn't go
that
far.
I've got
[mailto:owner-freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Perry
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 10:18 AM
To: 'Allen'
Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Leaving the Desktop Market
There is no such thing as a desktop market for *BSD or Linux
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:10:22PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
FreeBSD desktop since 3.3 (makes me a newbie!) I really dislike pulseaudio
and have managed to live without it. Firefox works fine without it.
Unfortunately they dropped OSS support a while go, so I now must use alsa,
but it works
On 1 Apr 2014, at 23:10, Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote:
Audio output is pretty system dependent, but I had little problem getting
my audio to auto-switch to headphones when I plugged them in. The setup is
a bit ugly,but I only had to check the available PINs (ugly, ugly) and set
up
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:22:32AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote:
On 1 Apr 2014, at 23:10, Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote:
Audio output is pretty system dependent, but I had little problem getting
my audio to auto-switch to headphones when I plugged them in. The setup is
a bit
On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Person, Roderick perso...@upmc.edu wrote:
Why aren't all the nerds and small businesses out there a market?
Too few of you to justify the capital outlay. Now, if we were talking about a
$1500 watch that was very nerdy and appealed to the inner James Bond in lots
On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
I have Macs at work (typing on one now), and a mac at home. I like them.
[ … ]
It’s just like being back in the 80s, when Unix had a desktop market, only
much, much faster.
Worry not, there’s a product just for you now!
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:11 PM, Matt Olander m...@ixsystems.com wrote:
This is like trying to predict automobile technology and dominant
car-makers by 1905. There's always room for competition. Take a look
at what's happening right now in the auto-industry. Tesla came out of
nowhere 125 years
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:10:22 -0700
Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote:
No, mutt, with vim as mail composer. :)
+1
matthias
(FreeBSD since 2.2.5 and sending this from an EeePC 900,
netbook, UMTS connected, KDE4 desktop, sound, webcam, vim, mutt,
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Jordan Hubbard j...@ixsystems.com wrote:
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:11 PM, Matt Olander m...@ixsystems.com wrote:
This is like trying to predict automobile technology and dominant
car-makers by 1905. There's always room for competition. Take a look
at what's
Hi all,
Some of you may have seen my posts entitled Story of a Laptop User
and Story of a Desktop User. For those of you who did not, it can
be a worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a
desktop. In short, it is an educational experience. While FreeBSD
can be coerced to
On 4/1/14, 1:46 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
Hi all
Hey it's not an apr 1 joke if it's true..
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On 4/1/2014 1:46 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
Hi all,
Some of you may have seen my posts entitled Story of a Laptop User
and Story of a Desktop User. For those of you who did not, it can
be a worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a
desktop. In short, it is an educational
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be year of the Linux
desktop and start to rip out the pieces of the OS not needed for
server or embedded use.
Hi,
On 04/01/14 07:46, Eitan Adler wrote:
Hi all,
Some of you may have seen my posts entitled Story of a Laptop User
and Story of a Desktop User. For those of you who did not, it can
be a worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a
desktop. In short, it is an educational
On 1 Apr 2014, at 08:11, Jordan Hubbard j...@mail.turbofuzz.com wrote:
1. Power. As you point out, being truly power efficient is a complete
top-to-bottom engineering effort and it takes a lot more than just trying to
idle the processor whenever possible to achieve that. You need to
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:11:19PM +0500, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be year of the Linux
desktop and start
On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 22:46 -0700, Eitan Adler wrote:
Hi all,
Some of you may have seen my posts entitled Story of a Laptop User
and Story of a Desktop User. For those of you who did not, it can
be a worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a
desktop. In short, it is
be coerced to do the right thing, it is rarely there by default
and often doesn't work as well as we would expect.
Ha, ha, ha. Reminds me of the long running 04-01 gag stating that
kernel.org ran on FreeBSD.
As to Leaving the Desktop Market;
+1. OK by me.
OTOH The following /will/ give you everything
-Original Message-
From: Eitan Adler [mailto:li...@eitanadler.com]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:47 PM
To: hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org; freebsd-
advoc...@freebsd.org
Subject: Leaving the Desktop Market
Hi all,
Some of you may have seen my posts entitled Story
On Mon, March 31, 2014 10:46 pm, Eitan Adler wrote:
Hi all,
Some of you may have seen my posts entitled Story of a Laptop User
and Story of a Desktop User. For those of you who did not, it can be a
worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a desktop.
In short, it is
-Original Message-
From: Lars Engels [mailto:lars.eng...@0x20.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:41 AM
To: Jordan Hubbard
Cc: Eitan Adler; hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org; freebsd-
advoc...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 12
On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Sean Bruno sean...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:
Why even bother? Its over, just embrace the future and be like this
happy Mac user:
http://people.freebsd.org/~sbruno/happy_desktop_user.jpg
I have Macs at work (typing on one now), and a mac at home. I like them.
I
On Mon, March 31, 2014 10:46 pm, Eitan Adler wrote:
Hi all,
Some of you may have seen my posts entitled Story of a Laptop User
and Story of a Desktop User. For those of you who did not, it can be a
worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a desktop.
In short, it is
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Jordan Hubbard j...@mail.turbofuzz.com wrote:
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be year of the Linux
desktop
...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:11:19PM +0500, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
desktop market. FreeBSD should
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Matt Olander m...@ixsystems.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Jordan Hubbard j...@mail.turbofuzz.com
wrote:
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
Hi all,
I have been a member of the FreeBSD hackers mailing list for about a year.5
now and I must say that I was looking forward to this year's 4/1 email.
Last year, I didn't even realize that the discussion of promoting i386 as a
tier 1 architecture was a joke until someone blatantly mentioned
-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org] On
Behalf Of Randi Harper
You know you opened a can of worms with that one. Because all the nerds are
going to step
up and say Well, I run FreeBSD on my desktop! It's totally
El día Tuesday, April 01, 2014 a las 07:43:02PM +0200, Lars Engels escribió:
That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the
desktop market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be year of the
[snip]
I'm a happy FreeBSD desktop user since 4.7. There are some edges,
On 04/01/2014 07:46, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
Eitan,
While I understand your frustration, VICOR is using FreeBSD as a Desktop since
FreeBSD 2.2. We don't use sound and we are fine relying on vesa.
While I understand that the things you listed are actual short-comings for
normal
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