Re: Breaking build world costs $5? (was: Can we please have a current that compiles?)

2000-05-16 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:21:54PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Maybe the comitters ought to take an idea from many software companies and contribute $5 to the beer fund every time they break the build. Have it all come due at the next BSDcon to fund a committer beer bash. :-)

Re: OpenSSH 2.1

2000-05-16 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Err, well it still requires openssl, which I think is firmly rooted in the crypto distribution as long as we have one. Is it? I thought the RSAref code being pluggable gave it some protection, or is merely "pluggability" also classified as crypto? I do recall someone saying something to that

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 15 May 2000 23:08:23 -0400, Donn Miller wrote: Check it out at: http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ Yes, that is great news! I tried compiling it, but I had trouble with lib/Xm/Scale.c. It wanted to include langinfo.h, which FreeBSD doesn't have. I've integrated NetBSD's

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Donn Miller
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: I've integrated NetBSD's langinfo and nl_types support into FreeBSD. I can send you patches if you haven't managed to work around this yet? Great. Please send me the patches. BTW, by "integrated", do you mean that you've integrated them into the

Re: Archive pruning

2000-05-16 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, David Scheidt wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Bush Doctor wrote: Out of da blue David Scheidt aka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Not incidently, SCO have waived the $100 license application fee, which means that you can get your own official Ancient UNIX(TM) Source

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
I think that you no longer have to include Motif with the JDK. Just let the distribution of Motif come from freebsd.org , i.e., a port or a package. Too much hassle IMO. I'd *much* rather distribute it as part of the package, and I'm looking into how feasible it would be to distribute

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Nate Williams
I think that you no longer have to include Motif with the JDK. Just let the distribution of Motif come from freebsd.org , i.e., a port or a package. Too much hassle IMO. I'd *much* rather distribute it as part of the package, and I'm looking into how feasible it would be to

Re: OpenSSH 2.1

2000-05-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:54:52PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: Err, well it still requires openssl, which I think is firmly rooted in the crypto distribution as long as we have one. Even so, moving SSH into the bindist would be one less thing that has to be merged into Internat all the time.

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread R Joseph Wright
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2000 23:08:23 -0400, Donn Miller wrote: Check it out at: http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ Yes, that is great news! I tried compiling it, but I had trouble with lib/Xm/Scale.c. It wanted to include langinfo.h, which

Re: cvsup on recent -CURRENT

2000-05-16 Thread Nick Hibma
Which host are you pilling from? I am slurping things out of ^^^ I've seen this post now three times and I still can't remember what word I wanted to use there. :-) It must be age I guess... Nick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:35 AM -0600 5/16/00, Nate Williams wrote: If this Open Motif can be distributed as a port or package for FreeBSD itself (and it seems to me that it can), then what hassle is that for JDK on FreeBSD? It requires two downloads to get a working JDK system. No other OS requires multiple

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Nate Williams
If this Open Motif can be distributed as a port or package for FreeBSD itself (and it seems to me that it can), then what hassle is that for JDK on FreeBSD? It requires two downloads to get a working JDK system. No other OS requires multiple packages to work. As long as

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread VINSON WAYNE HOWARD
No, I'm saying that OpenSource Motif *will* be going through lots of gyrations in the future, and these gyrations may cause instabilities in the JDK. But, if the JDK uses the Motif version it was compiled against, it will work 'consistently. Unlike X (which rarely changes), I suspect

Re: OpenSSH 2.1

2000-05-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Err, well it still requires openssl, which I think is firmly rooted in the crypto distribution as long as we have one. Is it? I thought the RSAref code being pluggable gave it some protection, or is merely "pluggability" also classified as

Re: Archive pruning

2000-05-16 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 16 May 2000, David Scheidt wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, David Scheidt wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Bush Doctor wrote: Out of da blue David Scheidt aka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Not incidently, SCO have waived the $100 license application fee, which means that you

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Nate Williams wrote: Unlike X (which rarely changes), I suspect the Motif stuff to change alot. I'm unclear on what gyrations you are expecting from a mature API codified in an IEEE standard. As long as you're using the Motif standard interface in your code you should have

Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-16 Thread Donn Miller
Anyone like the idea of adding wide char support to our libc? Maybe we could port it over from {Net,Open}BSD or BSDi. This would add the header file wctype.h, etc. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Nate Williams
Unlike X (which rarely changes), I suspect the Motif stuff to change alot. I'm unclear on what gyrations you are expecting from a mature API codified in an IEEE standard. As long as you're using the Motif standard interface in your code you should have nothing to worry about. Ahh, but

Re: Breaking build world costs $5? (was: Can we please have a current that compiles?)

2000-05-16 Thread Wes Peters
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: Maybe the comitters ought to take an idea from many software companies and contribute $5 to the beer fund every time they break the build. Have it all come due at the next BSDcon to fund a committer beer bash. :-) I'd go along with that. What do the