Re: Cleanout rebuild of /dev on -current

2000-10-19 Thread Szilveszter Adam
Hello On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:50:52PM -0700, John W. De Boskey wrote: Hi, Interesting question was posed to me which I can't locate a straight answer to. We've been following -current for a few years now. Over time, the devices in /dev have moved around, new added, and old

Re: Cleanout rebuild of /dev on -current

2000-10-19 Thread Szilveszter Adam
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 09:39:27AM +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: Given that the above can be automated on a live system, is this something that can/should be added to make installworld/world? (or atleast generate a report of changed devices, or devices that can nolonger be

I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Michael C . Wu
At the BSDCon I18N BOF, we discussed several things that could/should happen with the future of I18N(internationalization) in FreeBSD. We would like some inputs and comments regarding the following: * Moving to message catalogue style error messages for the kernel and userland. (AIX style)

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Jing-Tang Keith Jang
On 10/19/00, Michael C . Wu wrote: 3. Itojun mentioned that the CITRUS Japanese people will be able to import the wchar* and libxpg4 changes soon. This is great! I believe many developers have spent too much unnecessary time dealing with wchar.h. Is there a timeline yet? BTW, are there

Re: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled

2000-10-19 Thread Valentin Chopov
I got the same with addition that the machine hangs:( Val On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Manfred Antar wrote: With current kernel I'm getting alot of : kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled kernel trap 12 with

sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Steve Ames
admin# sockstat | grep -v '*.*' close(fstat): The OS locked up after that. That's just not normal :) Could someone give me the quick and dirty on how I can provide additional details? This is on -CURRENT from 10/16. The hardware is: Dual P3-500Mhz, 512M RAM. The kernel file is: machine

I cannot make bktr.

2000-10-19 Thread Tomoaki SATO
Hi, all. I cannot make a kernel on FreeBSD-current. I get a following compile error message. /work/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_os.c: In function `bktr_detach': /work/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_os.c:484: `unit' undeclared (first use in this function)

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Terry Lambert
* Moving to message catalogue style error messages for the kernel and userland. (AIX style) Each time the system outputs an error either from the kernel or userland, the error message is a formatted alphanumerica string mapped to verbose error messages. The error messages can be

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Johan Granlund
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Michael C . Wu wrote: At the BSDCon I18N BOF, we discussed several things that could/should happen with the future of I18N(internationalization) in FreeBSD. We would like some inputs and comments regarding the following: SNIP 2. Needing a graphics console to display

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Michael C . Wu
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 05:17:38PM +, Terry Lambert scribbled: | * Moving to message catalogue style error messages for the kernel and |userland. (AIX style) Each time the system outputs an error |either from the kernel or userland, the error message is a |formatted

I18N Paper URL

2000-10-19 Thread Michael C . Wu
http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/{presentation.ps,i18n.*} This is our paper presented at BSDCon. -- +--+ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. |

current.freebsd.org problems?

2000-10-19 Thread Bill G
I have been trying to download a current snapshot from current.freebsd.org for the past few days without success. The error message I receive is 'Login incorrect' - I am doing a standard anonymous ftp, as always. Just wanted to make sure someone was aware of the problem, if not already.

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Motoyuki Konno
Hi, "Michael C . Wu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 1. The future of sysinstall (or whatever should replace it) The future installer/management utility should be able to handle arbitrary character sets. In other words, it should be able to display Chinese/Japanese/etc. with user

Re: Cleanout rebuild of /dev on -current

2000-10-19 Thread Brian Dean
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:50:52PM -0700, John W. De Boskey wrote: So, what would the correct sequence be to wipeout /dev and recreate it? (create /dev in an alternate location and compare the two...??) After mergemastering, and if /dev/MAKEDEV gets updated, I usually just do an 'sh

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
3. Itojun mentioned that the CITRUS Japanese people will be able to import the wchar* and libxpg4 changes soon. the code is there, but as i talked, we need more manpower for babysitting. cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/anoncvs/citrus co -P xpg4dl itojun To

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Jordan Hubbard
The advantages are : A. Easy bug reporting by users. (e.g. "I have error 2398423") B. I18N error messages Let me just say, as someone who's done "escalation tech support" for major ISVs (the people who get called whenever front-line tech support is confronted with a "I have error

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Steve Ames wrote: admin# sockstat | grep -v '*.*' close(fstat): The OS locked up after that. I'm running -CURRENT from approximately 4 days ago and I am not noticing this. That's just not normal :) Could someone give me the quick and dirty on how I can

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Steve Ames
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 06:15:23PM -0400, Bosko Milekic wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Steve Ames wrote: admin# sockstat | grep -v '*.*' close(fstat): The OS locked up after that. I'm running -CURRENT from approximately 4 days ago and I am not noticing this. It doesn't happen

-current GENERIC failure (bktr_os.c:484)

2000-10-19 Thread John W. De Boskey
Hi, I'm seeing the following failure with sources current as of 19:39pm EDT (Oct 19). Occurs when building the GENERIC kernel. cc -pipe -g -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual

Re: current.freebsd.org problems?

2000-10-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Bill G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been trying to download a current snapshot from current.freebsd.org for the past few days without success. The error message I receive is 'Login incorrect' - I am doing a standard anonymous ftp, as always. Just wanted to make sure someone was aware of

Bug in tagged queuing patches causes read timeouts

2000-10-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Fresh -CURRENT kernels render the system disk (IBM-DTTA-371010) unusable; even small amounts of disk activity cause repeated read timeouts. I've narrowed the breakage down: the latest known-good kernel is 09/18/2000, earliest known-bad is 09/20/2000, which means the September 19th tagged queuing

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Steve Ames
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 02:36:48AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Steve Ames [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 06:15:23PM -0400, Bosko Milekic wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Steve Ames wrote: I'm running -CURRENT from approximately 4 days ago and I am not noticing

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Steve Ames [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *grin* I certainly haven't ruled out the possibility of crack induced hysteria. I'm reading the kerneldebug handbook section and will get some traces. Take a look at the "making the most of a kernel panic" entry in the FAQ (incidentially, that entry was

new library: libisc

2000-10-19 Thread Archie Cobbs
FYI- Absent violent rejection, I'd like to add the ISC utility library to the FreeBSD build. If you're not familiar, check out the man pages /usr/src/contrib/bind/lib/isc/*.mdoc. There are several useful utilities in there. The main thing I'm interested in is the event library, but there is

entropy reseeding is totally broken

2000-10-19 Thread
In very recent -current, my entropy file writted and readed sucessfully, but I got the same fortune quote again and again right after reboot! It means that anything writted to /dev/random not reseed it but _reset_ it to the same default state. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To

Re: current.freebsd.org problems?

2000-10-19 Thread Jordan Hubbard
I'll look into this tomorrow morning, thanks. Bill G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been trying to download a current snapshot from current.freebsd.org for the past few days without success. The error message I receive is 'Login incorrect' - I am doing a standard anonymous ftp, as

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

2000-10-19 Thread Udo Schweigert
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:48:46 +0400, Andrej Cernov wrote: In very recent -current, my entropy file writted and readed sucessfully, but I got the same fortune quote again and again right after reboot! It means that anything writted to /dev/random not reseed it but _reset_ it to the same