Re: my mail

2000-12-01 Thread News User

[Ooops, sorry for forgetting to pass a Subject header to sendmail..., and
the bogus envelope sender]
   
David O'Brien went a little something like this:

 On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 08:06:14AM +0100, News User wrote:
  I'm building news machines with two partitions for OSen, to allow
  me to boot into my choice, where my choice has been FreeBSD-STABLE
  or FreeBSD-CURRENT
  I know, ``don't do that'' but hey...
 
 Except for stupidity in libdisk(I believe) and thus sysinstall, there is
 no, none, zero reason why one cannot have two installations of FreeBSD in
 two different slices on the same disk.

Erm, actually, what I meant by the ``don't do that'' was referring
to the idea of using -CURRENT, especially SMPNG current with known
problems, on a production machine.  But it's my butt on the line.

Anyway, I'm surprised to hear that other people have had problems.
It's routine for me to put at least two FreeBSDen on any disk I
build larger than 2GB, and I've never had problems with the two of
them co-existing, or adding yet another OS like NetBSD for further
instructive comparisons.  Good way to put that extra unused space
to use, and to make it easy to choose the desired OS and upgrade
without risk.

There have been a small number of times when sysinstall has complained
that I can't have a root partition where I put it the second time,
but not too often, and I've been able to work around it.  The only
recent difficulty I've had has been when I built an OS on a disk
whose geometry was not the usual translated x/255/63 and the install
procedure and all utilities recognized the different geometry, but
the boot mangler failed to boot the OS partition.  I fixed this by
just booting into an older OS on a different disk and writing from
that sysinstall to the boot sector of the problem disk, and now it
boots fine.  I've had a few other geometry-related problems when
attempting to do 4.x installations, but I haven't bothered to try
to dig around for the root cause and repeatable conditions...


now i'll just go away
barry bouwsma



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ps/2 mouse freezes in X

2000-12-01 Thread Ilya Naumov


when i switch from X Window screen to text console and back, my ps/2 mouse 
cursor often freezes with "psmintr: out of sync ( != 0008)" message 
from kernel. the problem doesn't depend on moused running or not, as well 
as on FreeBSD version (4.x or 5.0). lots of my colleagues also report about it.

my configuration:

* Genius NewScroll PS/2 Mouse
* ASUS K7V-T motherboard (VIA KX133 chipset)
* XFree4.0.1_4

dmesg related to mouse:

psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model NetMouse/NetScroll Optical, device ID 0


sincerely,
ilya naumov (at work)



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Re: ps/2 mouse freezes in X

2000-12-01 Thread wkb

Try disabling APM (device apm) if you currently have that configured
in the kernel.

I experimented with apm yesterday (Abit KA7, with Via chipset) and got
exactly the same problem. Disabling apm fixed it

Wilko


 when i switch from X Window screen to text console and back, my ps/2 mouse 
 cursor often freezes with "psmintr: out of sync ( != 0008)" message 
 from kernel. the problem doesn't depend on moused running or not, as well 
 as on FreeBSD version (4.x or 5.0). lots of my colleagues also report about it.
 
 my configuration:
 
   * Genius NewScroll PS/2 Mouse
   * ASUS K7V-T motherboard (VIA KX133 chipset)
   * XFree4.0.1_4
 
 dmesg related to mouse:
 
 psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
 psm0: model NetMouse/NetScroll Optical, device ID 0
 
 
 sincerely,
 ilya naumov (at work)
 
 
 
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Re: USB modem?

2000-12-01 Thread Mark Huizer

  I have a USB modem here, (Siemens), that I would like to get to work
  under FreeBSD, but I can't even find the right tools to get vendor and
  product ID's to add to usbdevs :-(
 Try looking in dmesg - USB device that don't have known product and
 vendor ID's have theirs printed. Failing that, check the usbdevs(8)
 man page.
 
 The serious catch about USB modems is that they have to support the
 USB CDC spec. Not all of them do. If it does, the serial device will
 be umodem0 (1, 2, 3, ...), and you use it just like a tty line tied to
 an external modem.
 
Is it a case of being in the usbdevs list _and_ supporting those specs?
Or just following the specs?

I have the modem in the office, not at home. And of course there is that
tricky part where Windows wants my BIOS set to PNP OS=YES and FreeBSD
wants it set to NO. but well :-) we can survive that for the moment.

Mark
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current.freebsd.org

2000-12-01 Thread Sean O'Connell

Hi All-

Not sure if this the right place to complain or not, but current.freebsd.org
does not appear to be on the net.  traceroutes to both current.freebsd.org 
and usw2.freebsd.org (its alterego) fail.  I did find that ftp7.de.freebsd.org
has the 27 November 2000 snapshot of current on it .. was this the last time
current.freebsd.org was alive?

What is the proper place to complain?  A quick search of handbook/faq
and archives of this list yields nothing ...

Thanks,
S
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Re: current.freebsd.org

2000-12-01 Thread Jordan Hubbard

 Not sure if this the right place to complain or not, but current.freebsd.org
 does not appear to be on the net.  traceroutes to both current.freebsd.org 
 and usw2.freebsd.org (its alterego) fail.  I did find that ftp7.de.freebsd.or
g
 has the 27 November 2000 snapshot of current on it .. was this the last time
 current.freebsd.org was alive?

About 3 days ago; I'm unable to contact anyone at USWest but am
working on it.  Sigh.  Also, for some reason the remote console to
usw2 just doesn't work so the remote debugging option is out too.

 What is the proper place to complain?  A quick search of handbook/faq
 and archives of this list yields nothing ...

Probably [EMAIL PROTECTED] since it's an infrastructural issue, but
others have been complaining too so -current was as reasonable a place
as any in this case since it let me tell all of you the situation at
once. :)

- Jordan


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Re: current.freebsd.org

2000-12-01 Thread Brett Rabe


Jordan:

I can probably help you out. 612.664.3078.

Brett

On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:56:32 PST, "Jordan Hubbard" wrote:
 Not sure if this the right place to complain or not, but 
current.freebsd.org
 does not appear to be on the net.  traceroutes to both 
current.freebsd.org
 and usw2.freebsd.org (its alterego) fail.  I did find that 
ftp7.de.freebsd.o
 r
g
 has the 27 November 2000 snapshot of current on it .. was this the 
last time
 current.freebsd.org was alive?

About 3 days ago; I'm unable to contact anyone at USWest but am
working on it.  Sigh.  Also, for some reason the remote console to
usw2 just doesn't work so the remote debugging option is out too.

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world only broken for me?

2000-12-01 Thread Michael Harnois

=== usr.bin/mklocale
yacc -d /usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale/yacc.y
cp y.tab.c yacc.c
lex -t  /usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale/lex.l  lex.c
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f .depend -a-I/usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include 
 yacc.c lex.c
/usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale/lex.l:48: y.tab.h: No such file or directory
mkdep: compile failed
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

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Re: world only broken for me?

2000-12-01 Thread Chris Faulhaber

On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 05:52:34PM -0600, Michael Harnois wrote:
 === usr.bin/mklocale
 yacc -d /usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale/yacc.y
 cp y.tab.c yacc.c
 lex -t  /usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale/lex.l  lex.c
 rm -f .depend
 mkdep -f .depend -a-I/usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  yacc.c lex.c
 /usr/src/usr.bin/mklocale/lex.l:48: y.tab.h: No such file or directory
 mkdep: compile failed
 *** Error code 1
 

Fixed a few hours ago:

obrien  2000/12/01 11:36:17 PST
 
  Modified files:
usr.bin/mklocale Makefile
  Log:
  Grrr... GCC 2.95.2 and 2.96 just will not agree what the default include
  search paths are.  So add the requirements of both. :-(


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Re: USB modem?

2000-12-01 Thread Mike Meyer

Mark Huizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] types:
   I have a USB modem here, (Siemens), that I would like to get to work
   under FreeBSD, but I can't even find the right tools to get vendor and
   product ID's to add to usbdevs :-(
  Try looking in dmesg - USB device that don't have known product and
  vendor ID's have theirs printed. Failing that, check the usbdevs(8)
  man page.
  
  The serious catch about USB modems is that they have to support the
  USB CDC spec. Not all of them do. If it does, the serial device will
  be umodem0 (1, 2, 3, ...), and you use it just like a tty line tied to
  an external modem.
  
 Is it a case of being in the usbdevs list _and_ supporting those specs?
 Or just following the specs?

I believe that being listed in usbdevs isn't a requirement, but I'm
not positive. I also haven't had any look getting the thing to work
dynamically loading the various modules involved.

mike
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PnP OS = ?

2000-12-01 Thread Mike Smith

 I have the modem in the office, not at home. And of course there is that
 tricky part where Windows wants my BIOS set to PNP OS=YES and FreeBSD
 wants it set to NO. but well :-) we can survive that for the moment.

Can you expand on what actually goes wrong if you boot -current with it 
set to YES?  This is part of what I'm working on right now...

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kernel panics in 4.2

2000-12-01 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver

I sent this message to -questions earlier, but nobody seems to know about
my problem:

I just recently tried putting an adaptec 2940w SCSI controller into my
FreeBSD machine (running -STABLE cvsupped and recompiled every night at
1:30AM) and since including the driver in my kernel I've noticed some
random panics. Most of the time they occur during heavy disk activity, and
usually only when I'm running X (hence the reason I couldn't tell you the
panic message). Even wierder still, I don't even have any SCSI devices
connected yet; I'm using only IDE disks connected via the motherboard's
builtin ATA66. I have also searched the various FreeBSD mailinglist
archives and found some people with the same problems I was having, but no
solutions. Crashes do not occur in Windows with this configuration (at
least not any more than usual :-) ) and when I take the ahc driver out of
the kernel, the panics stop. I've included my dmesg -v output and my
kernel config file, please let me know if anything else is needed.

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Fri Dec  1 11:55:01 EST 2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL
Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 800028138 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193181 Hz
CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x642  Stepping = 2
  
Features=0x183f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR
  AMD Features=0xc044b18,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!
Data TLB: 24 entries, fully associative
Instruction TLB: 16 entries, fully associative
L1 data cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative
L1 instruction cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative
L2 internal cache: 256 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 8-way associative
real memory  = 134152192 (131008K bytes)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x1000 - 0x0009, 651264 bytes (159 pages)
0x0035d000 - 0x07fe7fff, 130592768 bytes (31883 pages)
avail memory = 127324160 (124340K bytes)
bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00faf90
bios32: Entry = 0xfb400 (c00fb400)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xb430
pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fbf00
pnpbios: Entry = f:bf30  Rev = 1.0
Other BIOS signatures found:
ACPI: 000f7ad0
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0337000.
Preloaded elf module "if_xl.ko" at 0xc03370a8.
Preloaded elf module "miibus.ko" at 0xc0337148.
Preloaded elf module "usb.ko" at 0xc03371e8.
Preloaded elf module "ums.ko" at 0xc0337284.
Preloaded elf module "bktr_mem.ko" at 0xc0337320.
Preloaded elf module "bktr.ko" at 0xc03373c0.
Preloaded elf module "agp.ko" at 0xc033745c.
bktr_mem: memory holder loaded
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
pci_open(1):mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80003840
pci_open(1a):   mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000)
pci_cfgcheck:   device 0 [class=06] [hdr=00] is there (id=03051106)
pcib-: pcib0 exists, using next available unit number
apm0: APM BIOS on motherboard
apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pci_open(1):mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x
pci_open(1a):   mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000)
pci_cfgcheck:   device 0 [class=06] [hdr=00] is there (id=03051106)
pcib0: Host to PCI bridge on motherboard
found- vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0305, revid=0x02
class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
map[10]: type 1, range 32, base d800, size 26
found- vendor=0x1106, dev=0x8305, revid=0x00
class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=1secondarybus=1
found- vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0686, revid=0x22
class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
found- vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0571, revid=0x10
class=01-01-8a, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
map[20]: type 1, range 32, base d000, size  4
found- vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x10
class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
intpin=d, irq=10
map[20]: type 1, range 32, base d400, size  5
found- vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x10
class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
intpin=d, irq=10
map[20]: type 1, range 32, base d800, size  5
found- vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3057, revid=0x30
class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
found- vendor=0x109e, dev=0x036e, revid=0x02
class=04-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
subordinatebus=0