About GEOM...
Hi! I have some questions about it. The first one is, when I compiled GEOM into the kernel, will physical disks be controlled by it already? Or does it apply to md mounted devices yet? And the second is, when will it be officially activated? Seems to work fine yet (toying around with it). Thanks for any infos. Cheers -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: KSE status report
W Gerald Hicks wrote: On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 04:13 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Erik Greenwald wrote: Looks like I'm out of this one, I got up this morning, cvsup'd and built world just to make sure it was fresh, then I quit getting the crashes. I d'no if the issue was fixed by something someone else did or what... It was solved, but thanks for trying and welcome to the club of people willing to get their fingers dirty :-) Well, I feel cheated. Damn thing never crashed on me. :-) (pushes harder) Cheers, Same here, I run a 2nd July 11am CET cvsup, system behaves 'normal' to me (yet?). -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: About GEOM...
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 4 July 2002 at 19:20:00 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Evans writes: This is mostly because resources have been diverted away from updating working code to write a second system. Make that third system, the current slice/label code is our second system, and I don't think the resources have been diverted as much as defected. Either way, I know you don't want either of DEVFS or GEOM, I think I know where you come from, I just happen to not agree that we should stay stuck back there. I disagree that DEVFS and GEOM are forwards. I don't know enough about GEOM to embrace it whole-heartedly, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody who disagrees that devfs is a forward. It may need some improvement, but it's so much more logical than what we had before that I really think you should explain your objections. DEVFS would be an improvement for me, when upgrading boxes by adding additional hardware, so I don't have to browse the dmesg, coz I will just look up /dev (since it only shows installed hardware with DEVFS). Same for GEOM, if all that will work what's described on phk's website about GEOM, then it's definitely an improvement too. I'm especially seeing forward for Copy-on-Write and encryption functionality. -mg
Re: KSE status.
Does this wired memory problem only happen on SMP systems, or is it happening across the board? Ken I'm running a uniproc. box at work with -CURRENT and over 4-5hrs, wired grew from 50megs (when I first time checked) to 141megs (now). Dunno if this normal, but it has kept growing. -mg Well it's all fun and games her at KSE central.. We have a set of cascading hidden bugs.. bug 1 hides bug 2 hides bug 3 the current state of play: the system works well for a while however there is a leak in the system that gradually runs the system out memory. the wired memory count grows with time. My test system presently has 241MB of Wired memory out of a 512M system. This didn't affect systems before today because the code was hidden by another bug.. that wasn't evident because of another bug.. etc.. still I think I am making progress. Just remember to reboot your system whenever your wired memory gets too high :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Wired mem fun!
On a second thought, how does it accumulate 870megs of wired memory on a box that has only 512megs and the swap file hasn't even been touched? Maybe there's just a profiling counter boken? Or do I misinterpret the concept of wired memory? Anyway, cheers, -mg 4th July 5pm CET, with world and kernel from 11am 3rd July, after a couple of hours runtime, doing mainly xchat and Mozilla, I got these stats: Mem: 73M Active, 221M Inact, 210M Wired, 1128K Cache, 61M Buf, 136M Free Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free I started a buildworld, then I aborted somewhere in buildworld when gcc was being compiled. That were the stats then: Mem: 82M Active, 284M Inact, 873M Wired, 29M Cache, 61M Buf, 17M Free Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free *snip* To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Wired mem fun!
4th July 5pm CET, with world and kernel from 11am 3rd July, after a couple of hours runtime, doing mainly xchat and Mozilla, I got these stats: Mem: 73M Active, 221M Inact, 210M Wired, 1128K Cache, 61M Buf, 136M Free Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free I started a buildworld, then I aborted somewhere in buildworld when gcc was being compiled. That were the stats then: Mem: 82M Active, 284M Inact, 873M Wired, 29M Cache, 61M Buf, 17M Free Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free ( I aborted coz my holidays start right now. :) ) But the buildworld increased Wired about 663megs, I don't think this is normal, right? I will restart a buildworld over ssh when I'm home with the new vm-glue.c, so see if it raises that high again. Cheers -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???
I'm slightly offtopic with this, but what the heck is that: http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that! -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???
http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that! Why? I thought FreeBSD wants no distros to avoid all the distrochaos Linux got right now. Debian is rather contraproductive to that. Luckily it aint popular. -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
emu10k1 maintainer
Is there still someone maintaining the emu10k1 driver, or the pcm driver in general? -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: installworld broken
: I've had to add ex, touch and gencat to the installworld target. And : I've still not manged to complete a installworld. : : anybody else see this? Strange, I just did a make buildworld ... mergermaster sequence and I did not need the three utilities you mention. Why is that strange? You're talking about everything up to but not including installworld. Warner's talking about installworld. :-) Sigh. I said 'make buildworld ... mergemaster sequence'. I assume people running -current would understand the use of ... and the word sequence to mean make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel mergemaster -p reboot make installworld mergemaster H. Is mergemaster really necessary? I mean when upgrading from a fresh 4.6 install? I usually just copied the password files and rc.conf, copied -CURRENTs etc files into /etc and copied the passwd files back. Seems to work fine, especially because I never touch the RC scripts on my running BSD systems. -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Soundcard drivers
Is there still any development being done on the soundcard drivers in FreeBSD? Especially regarding EMU10K2 support? I'm asking out of curiosity, because listening to radio while being in FreeBSD is suboptimal :) -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
RE: Soundcard drivers
Is there still any development being done on the soundcard drivers in FreeBSD? Especially regarding EMU10K2 support? Go to www.opensound.com/freebsd/. Their drivers should work fine, even with more than two speakers, and they tend to sound better than the stock FreeBSD drivers. The downside is that after the free trial you have to pay for them, but if you really like to listen to music, they're worth it. Doesn't support SMP. I have a multiprocessor. :/ I'm asking out of curiosity, because listening to radio while being in FreeBSD is suboptimal :) Reading mail with Outlook Express's brain-damaged formatting is suboptimal, too. :-P It's hard for me to get productive without a MP3 player or similar, that's why I'm still in Windows ;) -mg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message