David DEMELIER said:
> I agree that for some people it will be completely useless, but if we
> can disable it in src.conf everyone will be happy. Since FreeBSD is
> great for a router it's really fast to make a full working server
> without installing anything else.
What is the problem of install
2010/9/25 Marcin Cieslak :
>>> M. Warner Losh wrote:
>
>>: I agree but like Aleksandr said, almost 70% of dhcp code is already in
>>: base so adding 1Mb of dhcpd code wouldn't be too much. I like the idea
>>: to keep some parts in the ports tree and move out from the base.
>>
>> Yea. I agree too.
On 25 September 2010 21:10, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
> M. Warner Losh wrote:
>
>> It would be very convenient to have this particular thing in the base, and
>> we shouldn't be too dogmatic about never having any new 3rd
>> party things in the base.
>>
>
> Please no, don't add optional servers to th
>> M. Warner Losh wrote:
>: I agree but like Aleksandr said, almost 70% of dhcp code is already in
>: base so adding 1Mb of dhcpd code wouldn't be too much. I like the idea
>: to keep some parts in the ports tree and move out from the base.
>
> Yea. I agree too. Just because BIND was EOLd in 6
M. Warner Losh wrote:
It would be very convenient to have this particular thing in the
base, and we shouldn't be too dogmatic about never having any new 3rd
party things in the base.
Please no, don't add optional servers to the base. I already don't like
sendmail, bind, ntpd and inetd in the
In message: <4c91100c.5060...@freebsd.org>
Doug Barton writes:
: > Most of the code is there anyway, and it isn't evolving as fast as
: > BIND.
:
: That is actually a more rational argument, even if I don't agree with
: it. FWIW, part of the reason that I don't agree with it is that a
On 9/15/2010 7:25 AM, M. Warner Losh wrote:
Yea. I agree too. Just because BIND was EOLd in 6 isn't a great
argument against dhcp server.
That rather clearly was not the only element of my argument, and not
only is it disingenuous for you to indicate that it was, I don't
appreciate you doi
In message:
David DEMELIER writes:
: 2010/9/11 Doug Barton :
: > On 9/10/2010 1:48 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote:
: >>
: >> Hi,
: >>
: >> another argument about hostapd :) if have access point we must have
: >> way to assign IP for AP clients.
: >
: > To start with, your assumption is w
2010/9/14 Kevin Oberman :
>> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:13:58 +0200
>> From: David DEMELIER
>> Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
>>
>> 2010/9/14 Marian Hettwer :
>> > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:11:28 +0200, David DEMELIER
>> > wrote:
>> >> 2010/9/13 Gordon Tetlow :
>> >>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:13:58 +0200
> From: David DEMELIER
> Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
>
> 2010/9/14 Marian Hettwer :
> > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:11:28 +0200, David DEMELIER
> > wrote:
> >> 2010/9/13 Gordon Tetlow :
> >>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:53 PM, David DEMELIER
> >>>
2010/9/14 Marian Hettwer :
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:11:28 +0200, David DEMELIER
> wrote:
>> 2010/9/13 Gordon Tetlow :
>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:53 PM, David DEMELIER
>>> wrote:
Perl is a great example, I don't really understand why it's in the
base, then the port need to rewri
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:11:28 +0200, David DEMELIER
wrote:
> 2010/9/13 Gordon Tetlow :
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:53 PM, David DEMELIER
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perl is a great example, I don't really understand why it's in the
>>> base, then the port need to rewrite the links into the base hierarchy
2010/9/13 Gordon Tetlow :
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:53 PM, David DEMELIER
> wrote:
>>
>> Perl is a great example, I don't really understand why it's in the
>> base, then the port need to rewrite the links into the base hierarchy
>> and I think this is bad.
>
> Perl is not in the base system any
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:53 PM, David DEMELIER
wrote:
> Perl is a great example, I don't really understand why it's in the
> base, then the port need to rewrite the links into the base hierarchy
> and I think this is bad.
Perl is not in the base system anymore. It's in the ports system.
Gordo
2010/9/11 Doug Barton :
> On 9/10/2010 1:48 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> another argument about hostapd :) if have access point we must have
>> way to assign IP for AP clients.
>
> To start with, your assumption is wrong. DHCPd is not *actually* a
> requirement, although I admit tha
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:33:11PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:33:22 -0700
> > From: Doug Barton
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
> >
> > On 9/10/2010 1:48 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > another argument about hostapd :) if have
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:33:22 -0700
Doug Barton wrote:
> On 9/10/2010 1:48 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > another argument about hostapd :) if have access point we must have
> > way to assign IP for AP clients.
>
> To start with, your assumption is wrong. DHCPd is not *actually*
> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:33:22 -0700
> From: Doug Barton
> Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
>
> On 9/10/2010 1:48 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > another argument about hostapd :) if have access point we must have
> > way to assign IP for AP clients.
>
> To start wit
On 9/10/2010 1:48 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote:
Hi,
another argument about hostapd :) if have access point we must have
way to assign IP for AP clients.
To start with, your assumption is wrong. DHCPd is not *actually* a
requirement, although I admit that practically it is.
Last spring I ma
On 09/10/2010 19:14, jhell wrote:
> On 09/10/2010 14:36, Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 9/10/2010 9:54 AM, David DEMELIER wrote:
>>> 2010/9/10 Matthew Jacob:
I think not. You are given the opportunity to install prebuilt
packages at install time, and with a modest amount of effort can
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On 09/10/2010 14:36, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 9/10/2010 9:54 AM, David DEMELIER wrote:
>> 2010/9/10 Matthew Jacob:
>>> I think not. You are given the opportunity to install prebuilt
>>> packages at install time, and with a modest amount of effort can
>
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:06:45 +0200
Julien Laffaye wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
> > As I've said many times, I'm ready to have it out when there is consensus to
> > do so. The usual discussion goes like this:
> >
> > 1. Get BIND out of the base!
> > 2. If we remove
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
> As I've said many times, I'm ready to have it out when there is consensus to
> do so. The usual discussion goes like this:
>
> 1. Get BIND out of the base!
> 2. If we remove it, the command line tools (dig, host, nslookup) go with it.
Dragonfl
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 9/10/2010 9:54 AM, David DEMELIER wrote:
>> And what about bind too?
>
> As I've said many times, I'm ready to have it out when there is consensus to
> do so. The usual discussion goes like this:
>
> 1. Get BIND out of the base!
> 2. If we
On 9/10/2010 9:54 AM, David DEMELIER wrote:
2010/9/10 Matthew Jacob:
I think not. You are given the opportunity to install prebuilt packages at
install time, and with a modest amount of effort can install prebuilt
packages afterwards.
IMO, such as it is, there should be *less* in the base sys
2010/9/10 Matthew Jacob :
> I think not. You are given the opportunity to install prebuilt packages at
> install time, and with a modest amount of effort can install prebuilt
> packages afterwards.
>
> IMO, such as it is, there should be *less* in the base system than there
> currently is and more
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 05:29:40PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
> David DEMELIER ha scritto:
> > I was surprised to see that there is no DHCP server in base, obviously
> > it's not difficult to fetch the net/isc-dhcp31-server package but for
> > people that would like to setup a new server on FreeBSD
I think not. You are given the opportunity to install prebuilt
packages at install time, and with a modest amount of effort can install
prebuilt packages afterwards.
IMO, such as it is, there should be *less* in the base system than there
currently is and more in ports.
_
David DEMELIER ha scritto:
> I was surprised to see that there is no DHCP server in base, obviously
> it's not difficult to fetch the net/isc-dhcp31-server package but for
> people that would like to setup a new server on FreeBSD quickly they
> will take some time to learn how packages framework wo
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